Judge releases Trump University suit documents which claim Trump Defrauded Victims

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    May 29, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/05/28/judge-orders-release-docs-trump-university-suit/85118062/A federal judge ordered the release of Trump University internal documents in a class-action lawsuit against the now-inactive real estate school in response to a request by The Washington Post.

    U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel (from this side of the wall) in San Diego's order requires that the documents be released by Thursday, the Post reported. The documents would include "playbooks," marketing material advising sales employees on how to promote the pricey real estate courses.

    The order was made Friday, the same day Trump called Curiel a "hater of Donald Trump" and suggested the judge, who is Hispanic, is biased against him for his immigration platform.

    ...While Trump's lawyers deny any wrongdoing, the lawsuit claims that Trump University lured students into high-priced courses and pressured students to buy more — as much as $35,000 for the seminars —without delivering as promised, according to the Associated Press.

    Trump also faces a $40 million lawsuit that was launched in 2013 by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. That lawsuit claims Trump had defrauded more than 5,000 people the university,

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    Jun 01, 2016 8:16 PM GMT
    I would suggest graduates with degrees in Folklore & Mythology at Harvard can consider themselves victims too.

    Trump students can comfort themselves knowing that Trump university charges them less for nothing in return.

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    Jun 01, 2016 10:09 PM GMT
    I can't wait to get my hands on the "playbook." I'm thinking of founding a university for future X-Men. I understand from early reviews that the playbook is chockfull of nuts.
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    Jun 01, 2016 10:21 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidI would suggest graduates with degrees in Folklore & Mythology at Harvard can consider themselves victims too.

    Trump students can comfort themselves knowing that Trump university charges them less for nothing in return.

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    True, but one difference is that universities/colleges don't intentionally prey upon the elderly and uneducated. It's almost criminal to swindle an elderly person on a fixed income out of 30K. A bright eyed and naive 18 year old? Sad, but nowhere near the same. The 18y/o has their whole life to live, learn, and recoup the loss. An elderly person? Game over. Better enjoy the taste of cold pork n beans from a can, IF you're lucky enough to keep your residence after the judgments are enforced (non mortgage creditors cannot generally foreclose a person's home, but they CAN take from accounts so the person has a $0 balance and cannot afford annual property taxes, rent on an apartment, etc.). Social security payments are only immune from collection until the moment they're cashed. Then the bank may legally hold and surrender those funds to a creditor.
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    Jun 01, 2016 10:36 PM GMT
    I would suggest graduates with degrees in Folklore & Mythology at Harvard can consider themselves victims too

    I don't think Harvard advertises that a degree in Folklore will help you be able to afford your own jet. Infact, i am reasonably certain, that Harvard turns students (customers) away every year.

    Can you just admit that maybe, Trump was wrong about something once?
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    Jun 02, 2016 1:59 AM GMT
    NO, Der Fuhrer is never wrong!

    Totally inappropriate Hitler comparison aside, Herr Trump does seem to have the aura of infallibility with his devotees.
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    Jun 03, 2016 1:11 AM GMT
    Svnw688 said...universities/colleges don't intentionally prey upon the elderly and uneducated. It's almost criminal to swindle an elderly person on a fixed income out of 30K. A bright eyed and naive 18 year old? Sad, but nowhere near the same. The 18y/o has their whole life to live, learn, and recoup the loss. An elderly person? Game over. Better enjoy the taste of cold pork n beans from a can, IF you're lucky enough to keep your residence after the judgments are enforced (non mortgage creditors cannot generally foreclose a person's home, but they CAN take from accounts so the person has a $0 balance and cannot afford annual property taxes, rent on an apartment, etc.). Social security payments are only immune from collection until the moment they're cashed. Then the bank may legally hold and surrender those funds to a creditor.


    http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/trump-university-its-worse-than-you-thinkTrump University: It’s Worse Than You Think
    ...Will one of the world’s leading democracies elect as its President a businessman who founded and operated a for-profit learning annex that some of its own employees regarded as a giant rip-off, and that the highest legal officer in New York State has described as a classic bait-and-switch scheme?

    If anyone still has any doubt about the troubling nature of Donald Trump’s record, he or she should be obliged to read the affidavit of Ronald Schnackenberg, a former salesman for Trump University. Schnackenberg’s testimony was one of the documents unsealed by a judge in the class-action suit, which was brought in California by some of Trump University’s disgruntled former attendees.

    Schnackenberg, who worked in Trump’s office at 40 Wall Street, testified that “while Trump University claimed it wanted to help consumers make money in real estate, in fact Trump University was only interested in selling every person the most expensive seminars they possibly could.” The affidavit concludes, “Based upon my personal experience and employment, I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme, and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”

    ...From the time Trump University began operating, in 2005, the A.G.’s office repeatedly warned the company that it was breaking the law by calling itself a university. (In New York State, universities have to obtain a state charter.)

    That was the bait—or, rather, the initial bait. According to the Attorney General’s complaint, the free classes were merely a marketing device. There, Trump University’s instructors “engaged in a methodical, Systematic Series of misrepresentations” designed to convince students to sign up for a three-day seminar, where they would learn Trump’s personal techniques and strategies for investing, at a cost of about fifteen hundred dollars.

    ...The newly released documents, which included actual Trump University playbooks (one was also uncovered by Politico earlier this year), provide more detail about the sales tactics that its employees used. Some of these methods, such as encouraging customers to max out their credit cards and playing psychological tricks on them, are familiar from the world of time-shares and other dodgy industries. “If they can afford the gold elite don’t allow them to think about doing anything besides the gold elite,” one of the playbooks advised the sales staff. At another point, the manual said, “Don’t ask people what they THINK about something you’ve said. Instead, always ask them how they FEEL about it. People buy emotionally and justify it logically.”

    ...Recounting his experience with one couple, which included a man who was on disability, he said, “After the hard-sell sales presentation, they were considering purchasing the $35,000 Elite program. I did not feel it was an appropriate program for them because of their precarious financial condition.” Far from being commended by his bosses for his honesty, Schnackenberg said that he was reprimanded. Another salesperson then “talked them into buying the $35,000 program after I refused to sell this program to them,” he testified. “I was disgusted by this conduct and decided to resign.”

    Trump denies any wrongdoing.
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    Jun 03, 2016 3:47 PM GMT
    Donald Tweets: "After the litigation is disposed of and the case won, I have instructed my execs to open Trump U(?), so much interest in it! I will be pres."