Anabolic Steroids? Your Experience with them?

  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 02, 2016 11:23 PM GMT
    So as much as I really don't want to bulk myself up because I like my smaller frame, I just really want to attract a muscular guy but I have such a problem with eating. I force myself to eat but I can only scratch 3-4 meals every few days.

    I heard that anabolic steroids could potentially help. I know they're considered taboo but so many of the guys I seem to have an attraction to, I found out use them and it didn't turn me off in the least. I know that these guys are considered the "elite" of the gay world and I just want to find one to date but I know by now that Muscular/Bodybuilder guys don't like guys with my build.

    There was one guy I met before who admitted to taking steroids but I lost contact with him. From what I saw, he seemed to be in great shape minus his breathing but I'd like to think it's just asthma or something. Anyway, the one thing I'm afraid about it roid rage. Is it really just a myth or does it exist?

    If you're a guy who's taken steroids (either in the past or currently), what has your experience been? Did it help you? I know that you still need to work out while you're on them and I'm sure I can do that. I just really want to attract muscular guys. Sure, it'd be great to attract one who'd like a slimmer guy but they just don't exist (unless they're bisexual and possibly married).

    So if you or anyone has tips on anabolic steroids, please, share your experience. Did they work for you (or your friend/partner/etc.), How long did you/they take them for? Was there any side effects you noticed?
  • LostSailor

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    Jun 03, 2016 2:00 AM GMT
    BloodFlame saidI know that these guys are considered the "elite" of the gay world and I just want to find one to date but I know by now that Muscular/Bodybuilder guys don't like guys with my build.

    As I've said to you face to face when you and I met about a year or so ago--thats NOT true. icon_biggrin.gif
    I sometimes compete in semi-pro powerlifting/strongman events around the country. I'm 6'4 and about 260lbs. Not all muscle, but mostly.
    I started using drugs to help me win.
    One thing led to another..life kicked in and I discovered the wonderful world of GAY MEN.
    I quickly noticed how many guys were into older muscular guys so I changed my next cycle of drugs to help me get laid. Worked like a charm....still does.
    I'm currently on Trenbolone, Masterone and Test. Tren is an absolutely b r u t a l compound. 50% of guys using it shouldn't be.
    My advice to you would be to not even consider taking ANY drugs for as long as possible...like 5 or 6 years....MINIMUM.
    Your looking for a world of trouble.
    PLUS, if your having problems getting your meals in, then steroids 10000% will NOT work for you anyway.
    Google "how steroids work" and read exactly how steroids AID in muscle growth.

    Blood--your body is beautiful---don't mess with it.{for those that dont know--if your into lean guys--Blood is as perfect as a guy can get---plus he's cute as hell}
    Dont do like I did to take drugs to attract guys.
    I was on drugs before the gay thing happened.


  • badbug

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    Jun 03, 2016 2:58 AM GMT

    If you aren't willing to do the work without roids, why take all the risk associated with roids? You will be wasting money if you take roids and still don't eat and train properly.

    Eat and train properly first and then add roids in 2 years after you have come closer to maxing out.

    "3-4 meals"

    A protein shake and a handful of nuts or veggies is hardly impossible to keep down.


    Don't risk liver issues, baldness, acne, hormone imbalances, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES SUCH AS DEPRESSION WHICH YOU CLEARLY ALREADY HAVE, if you aren't willing to do the hard stuff first, setting a routine and sticking to it.

    Finding out why you keep sabotaging yourself and working to correct that will help you far more than all the roids in the world will.


    Sorry if i sound like a dick, but there isn't a magical pill even juice. And if you aren't doing the other stuff correctly, why would you suddenly take steroids correctly?

  • ANTiSociaLiNJ...

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    Jun 03, 2016 4:24 AM GMT
    BloodFlame said I know that these guys are considered the "elite" of the gay world and I just want to find one to date but I know by now that Muscular/Bodybuilder guys don't like guys with my build.



    ^ You finally admitted it. You have lamented on this site so many times before that you believed you were perceived as undateable for a variety of reasons. But what's really the problem is that you're striving to snag a boyfriend that is way out of your league. I hate to break it to you but you have to bring something to the table to even out the playing field. You either have to have:

    1) A muscular body of death to match.

    2) A huge cock and be a voracious top as many muscle guys are size queen bottoms.

    3) A sugar daddy readily willing to spoil an "elite" muscle boy.

    Admittedly, it kinda sours me that you would hint at suicide as you have in the past over your loneliness. There are people here that care about you. But now it comes down to you being so miserable because you can't date someone well beyond and out of your league? You need to grow up.

  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 03, 2016 11:17 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    BloodFlame said I know that these guys are considered the "elite" of the gay world and I just want to find one to date but I know by now that Muscular/Bodybuilder guys don't like guys with my build.



    ^ You finally admitted it. You have lamented on this site so many times before that you believed you were perceived as undateable for a variety of reasons. But what's really the problem is that you're striving to snag a boyfriend that is way out of your league. I hate to break it to you but you have to bring something to the table to even out the playing field. You either have to have:

    1) A muscular body of death to match.

    2) A huge cock and be a voracious top as many muscle guys are size queen bottoms.

    3) A sugar daddy readily willing to spoil an "elite" muscle boy.

    Admittedly, it kinda sours me that you would hint at suicide as you have in the past over your loneliness. There are people here that care about you. But now it comes down to you being so miserable because you can't date someone well beyond and out of your league? You need to grow up.



    I'd like to think I had something to offer like being emotionally supportive, caring, and loving but like you highlighted, it's not enough which is why I'm trying to take the initiative (1) because I'm just not a top and I'm not rich. Like I said before, if I was born a woman, I don't think I'd be having this trouble but unfortunately, I'm not one and I don't want to have SRS or anything like that.

    As for the suicide thing, there were other things I had on my mind besides this that made me go into that manic state.
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    Jun 03, 2016 1:27 PM GMT
    I'm not going to propose a solution here or judge you, but I hope that you find happiness through self-acceptance in the immediate future. You said that you like your smaller frame. Perhaps you should start there. Best wishes.
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    Jun 03, 2016 3:28 PM GMT
    Steroids are not right for you at this point - you need to have your diet and training absolutely nailed and have been working out consistently and correctly for years before you even consider using steroids.

    Used safely they can be extremely successful, but if you were to get into them now you would be completely wasting your time and money at best, and wrecking your body at worst.

    Get into the habit of eating more. You have to eat even when you're not hungry. Those muscle guys you are so fixated on? They put in the time and effort - it is HARD to build and maintain muscle, not in terms of complexity but just in terms of being dedicated, consistent and forcing yourself to consume quality food to grow. Steroids seem like a quick fix but as has already been said, unless you have the foundation and regime in place first, it's pointless.
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    Jun 03, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    Ok , i don't get you mate !!
    You have a fantastic lean , fit , and well defined body , your undies photos show you have been blessed in the genital department , so
    i really don't understand how you cannot get laid !!
    Maybe it comes from a lack of confidence , shyness or your personality ..
    You should try to work those kinks, before trying to alter a body which will seem perfect to 95% of the eyes ...
  • LostSailor

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    Jun 03, 2016 4:23 PM GMT
    I'm telling u Blood...ur perfect the way u are.
    Ur lean with almost no fat.
    You know how many guys would KILL for ur genetics?
    I'd give up my big bench, squat and deadlift to be in TOTAL shape.
    You have no idea how perfect and APPEALING ur body is-- to SOME guys.
    Yeah..some...maybe one guys isn't into a leaner guy. OK...then he's not for you as much as your not for him.
    Keep looking fot what you want..NEVER settle.
    But more importantly, don't jeopardize YOU...YOUR MORALS..or YOUR HEALTH to find that right guy.
    Your young.. you'll see how this whole thing gets easier in due time.
  • FitBlackCuddl...

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    Jun 03, 2016 4:44 PM GMT
    LostSailor saidAs I've said to you face to face when you and I met about a year or so ago--thats NOT true. icon_biggrin.gif
    I sometimes compete in semi-pro powerlifting/strongman events around the country. I'm 6'4 and about 260lbs. Not all muscle, but mostly.


    Now you have me wondering about your actual face/body appearance (which does not seem to be available).
  • Noeton

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    Jun 03, 2016 9:20 PM GMT
    Steroids are basically a way to "chemically castrate" yourself. They reduce or shut down your body's natural testosterone production, as well as the production of other hormones. It is unbelievably stupid for anyone to take them (except maybe on a doctor's orders). Even with "post cycle therapy" at least some damage to your endocrine system, the glands that make your hormones, will be permanent. Next stop: permanent testosterone replacement therapy. No, you can't look freaky like professional bodybuilders (fools) without steroids, but you can naturally build a great, very aesthetic body -- and be healthy doing it. The most important way to do it is to learn for yourself and think for yourself! I can't stress that too much. (I have to be harsh, OP, instead of soliciting advice, start by doing your own research online. Work the brain in order to gain. "The truth is out there.") Learn about what you want to accomplish from the ground up. The run of the mill "advice" that is common about bodybuilding and nutrition for bodybuilding is pretty much worthless. I know that from observing and talking to many people. If you, for example, get your advice from Men's Health or anything like it (Mike Chang is never going to tell you what he really does.), you will stay weak and out of shape. Bodybuilding is a world that is, very unfortunately, "competitive" -- i.e. full of misinformation with a grain of truth, "secret" common-sense information, as well as outright lies to make money. It's like a "competition" to see who can defeat himself the fastest. Anabolic steroids are the biggest tragedy of all -- because they attack your natural testosterone, the very thing that is most important. Unbelievably, there are sites and even videos online promoting the steriod lifestyle.

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    Jun 03, 2016 10:50 PM GMT
    I do not use steroids.
    But the problem with this series of posts is that few people will willingly admit to using them, though a look into any gym tells otherwise.
    The replies with the exception of one originate from people against them....where are all the non-responders?
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    Jun 03, 2016 11:29 PM GMT
    You asked about my experience with anabolic steroids. I have never actually used them myself though lots of my friends have. SO First of all they are illegal. I believe they are schedule 1 which has a higher penalty than heroin or cocaine. So don't expect to walk up to a random muscle head ask him for steroids and expect him to set you up. Ain't gonna happen. He might give you something and take your money because a fool and has no right to have money. You can go online but the results will probably be the same. Let's say that by some miracle you actually get some steroids and actually become a member of the club. You still have to lift heavy ass weight. I could give you the exact chemicals that Barry Bonds used, put you in a similar uniform, you still have to hit home runs. The steroids will make your lifting more effective but you still have to do the work training and dieting. Everyone talks about "roid rage". IF you are a asshole before you use steroids, you will be an asshole on steroids if you use them. If you have an underlying mood disorder steroids may cause you to become symptomatic. Short-term use will cause a reversible shrinkage of your testicles and some growth in the length and girth of your penis. Initially you will be very horny and like a teenage boy experience erections for no apparent reason. Maybe what people call "roid-rage" is simply being so fucking horny with a big ole boner that you just gotta fuck something. All of these side-effects will go away with short-term use. Long-term, the testicles will continue to shrink as will the penis and the spontaneous erections cease. So do more steroids!!!!! As a member of the club, you probably will be offered other performance enhancing drugs like cocaine and methamphetamine. Why not?
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    Jun 04, 2016 12:22 AM GMT
    OP, I did a post on how to eat more when you have low appetite. I never had a big appetite myself.

    If you're that inclined to use some chemical enhancement and you're appetite is approaching anorexia, I actually believe 15mg mirtazapine would be a bigger performance enhancement for you than steroids. Do some research on it, I'm no psychiatrist. At that dosage it's very often used as a an appetite stimulant, stronger than anything OTC. It's a terrible side effect if you're fat, but if you're anorexic it's very desirable and many people (even pets) use it for that reason alone. Plus you don't get any sexual dysfunction. You won't find it difficult to find a doctor willing to prescribe it to you.
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    Jun 04, 2016 12:35 AM GMT
    jimib saidEveryone talks about "roid rage". IF you are a asshole before you use steroids, you will be an asshole on steroids if you use them. If you have an underlying mood disorder steroids may cause you to become symptomatic.


    I find it amazing how steroids seem to find the skeletons in your psychiatric closet and bring them out. Not necessarily rage, it might be depression or anxiety. You might have done years of psychiatric treatments with antidepressants and think you're cured, but as soon as it hits you you go back to square one.

    But just like acne, I think people who had the symptoms in the past (without steroids) are better prepared to fight them should they appear. Psychiatric symptoms can be avoided on-cycle with the same methods used off-cycle. The real problem are the guys who never knew about their skeletons and find them for the first time while on...
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    Jun 04, 2016 12:39 AM GMT
    BloodFlame saidSo as much as I really don't want to bulk myself up because I like my smaller frame, I just really want to attract a muscular guy but I have such a problem with eating. I force myself to eat but I can only scratch 3-4 meals every few days.

    I heard that anabolic steroids could potentially help.


    AAS will NOT work for you. You HAVE to eat a fuck ton to gain muscle with or without enhancements. AAS is not magic, it doesn't just make muscles appear from out of nowhere. You have to consume protein to rebuild the muscle fibers that you have to manage by the workouts you have to do. All AAS really do is make your recovery time a hell of a lot shorter so you can get more frequent and longer workouts in. Certain ones can increase your strength allowing you to lift heavier to damage those muscle fibers more.

    You can't just NOT eat and not workout and take AAS and expect that it will have any affect: it won't. You need to force yourself to consume at LEAST 1g of protein per pound you weigh (I do 2g per pound I weigh).
  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 04, 2016 3:19 AM GMT
    Noeton saidSteroids are basically a way to "chemically castrate" yourself. They reduce or shut down your body's natural testosterone production, as well as the production of other hormones. It is unbelievably stupid for anyone to take them (except maybe on a doctor's orders). Even with "post cycle therapy" at least some damage to your endocrine system, the glands that make your hormones, will be permanent. Next stop: permanent testosterone replacement therapy. No, you can't look freaky like professional bodybuilders (fools) without steroids, but you can naturally build a great, very aesthetic body -- and be healthy doing it. The most important way to do it is to learn for yourself and think for yourself! I can't stress that too much. (I have to be harsh, OP, instead of soliciting advice, start by doing your own research online. Work the brain in order to gain. "The truth is out there.") Learn about what you want to accomplish from the ground up. The run of the mill "advice" that is common about bodybuilding and nutrition for bodybuilding is pretty much worthless. I know that from observing and talking to many people. If you, for example, get your advice from Men's Health or anything like it (Mike Chang is never going to tell you what he really does.), you will stay weak and out of shape. Bodybuilding is a world that is, very unfortunately, "competitive" -- i.e. full of misinformation with a grain of truth, "secret" common-sense information, as well as outright lies to make money. It's like a "competition" to see who can defeat himself the fastest. Anabolic steroids are the biggest tragedy of all -- because they attack your natural testosterone, the very thing that is most important. Unbelievably, there are sites and even videos online promoting the steriod lifestyle.



    But if they really were that bad, why are guys still taking it then? I've seen videos of guys who claim they've taken it for years and they don't look like they deteriorated at all.

    jimib saidYou asked about my experience with anabolic steroids. I have never actually used them myself though lots of my friends have. SO First of all they are illegal. I believe they are schedule 1 which has a higher penalty than heroin or cocaine. So don't expect to walk up to a random muscle head ask him for steroids and expect him to set you up. Ain't gonna happen. He might give you something and take your money because a fool and has no right to have money. You can go online but the results will probably be the same. Let's say that by some miracle you actually get some steroids and actually become a member of the club. You still have to lift heavy ass weight. I could give you the exact chemicals that Barry Bonds used, put you in a similar uniform, you still have to hit home runs. The steroids will make your lifting more effective but you still have to do the work training and dieting. Everyone talks about "roid rage". IF you are a asshole before you use steroids, you will be an asshole on steroids if you use them. If you have an underlying mood disorder steroids may cause you to become symptomatic. Short-term use will cause a reversible shrinkage of your testicles and some growth in the length and girth of your penis. Initially you will be very horny and like a teenage boy experience erections for no apparent reason. Maybe what people call "roid-rage" is simply being so fucking horny with a big ole boner that you just gotta fuck something. All of these side-effects will go away with short-term use. Long-term, the testicles will continue to shrink as will the penis and the spontaneous erections cease. So do more steroids!!!!! As a member of the club, you probably will be offered other performance enhancing drugs like cocaine and methamphetamine. Why not?


    I thought that it only shrank the testes and that the penis shrink was a myth?

    bachian saidOP, I did a post on how to eat more when you have low appetite. I never had a big appetite myself.

    If you're that inclined to use some chemical enhancement and you're appetite is approaching anorexia, I actually believe 15mg mirtazapine would be a bigger performance enhancement for you than steroids. Do some research on it, I'm no psychiatrist. At that dosage it's very often used as a an appetite stimulant, stronger than anything OTC. It's a terrible side effect if you're fat, but if you're anorexic it's very desirable and many people (even pets) use it for that reason alone. Plus you don't get any sexual dysfunction. You won't find it difficult to find a doctor willing to prescribe it to you.


    I'm not anorexic though... But okay, I'll look into this mirtazapine.

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    BloodFlame saidSo as much as I really don't want to bulk myself up because I like my smaller frame, I just really want to attract a muscular guy but I have such a problem with eating. I force myself to eat but I can only scratch 3-4 meals every few days.

    I heard that anabolic steroids could potentially help.


    AAS will NOT work for you. You HAVE to eat a fuck ton to gain muscle with or without enhancements. AAS is not magic, it doesn't just make muscles appear from out of nowhere. You have to consume protein to rebuild the muscle fibers that you have to manage by the workouts you have to do. All AAS really do is make your recovery time a hell of a lot shorter so you can get more frequent and longer workouts in. Certain ones can increase your strength allowing you to lift heavier to damage those muscle fibers more.

    You can't just NOT eat and not workout and take AAS and expect that it will have any affect: it won't. You need to force yourself to consume at LEAST 1g of protein per pound you weigh (I do 2g per pound I weigh).


    First off, I know that steroids don't magically make muscles appear. I know you still need to workout and eat for them to work.

  • nomad4life

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    Jun 04, 2016 3:43 AM GMT
    I'm came from your area OP. I dated an elite muscular guy once (think cage fighter style body). It was brief because he told me he loved me on the third date and then ended up leaving me for his ex (and the ex's sugar daddy). Point is, the elite muscle guys aren't always what they're cracked up to be. Once you stop focusing so much on physical appearances (both yours and theirs) things get a lot simpler.

    Now, are you actually counting your calories or a calculated how much you'll need to intake daily to attain a steady gain? There are apps for that.
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    Jun 04, 2016 4:19 AM GMT
    nomad4life saidNow, are you actually counting your calories or a calculated how much you'll need to intake daily to attain a steady gain? There are apps for that.


    Those apps are well intentioned but they are a recipe for failure because of their underlying assumption that diets can be improvised.

    Bodybuilders need to plan their meals ahead of time so they can predict their macros. An app that creates meals based on macro requirements is what would be truly useful, not something that gives nutrition facts of random stuff you choose. Even better than that would be a sports dietitian, but people here have a prejudice against them as if they knew better...
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    I thought that it only shrank the testes and that the penis shrink was a myth?

    Initially and for a short while the penis will increase in length and girth just as it did during puberty. The growth of the penis reverses itself even if the steroid use continues. The shrinkage of the testicles can be permanent especially if the steroid use is long term.
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    Jun 04, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
    bachian said
    nomad4life saidNow, are you actually counting your calories or a calculated how much you'll need to intake daily to attain a steady gain? There are apps for that.


    Those apps are well intentioned but they are a recipe for failure because of their underlying assumption that diets can be improvised.

    Bodybuilders need to plan their meals ahead of time so they can predict their macros. An app that creates meals based on macro requirements is what would be truly useful, not something that gives nutrition facts of random stuff you choose. Even better than that would be a sports dietitian, but people here have a prejudice against them as if they knew better...


    Really? Damn, I downloaded a cool one too that once you reach your day's goal it shoots off fireworks on your screen for positive reinforcement and stuff. OP do you plan your meals?
  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 04, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
    nomad4life said
    bachian said
    nomad4life saidNow, are you actually counting your calories or a calculated how much you'll need to intake daily to attain a steady gain? There are apps for that.


    Those apps are well intentioned but they are a recipe for failure because of their underlying assumption that diets can be improvised.

    Bodybuilders need to plan their meals ahead of time so they can predict their macros. An app that creates meals based on macro requirements is what would be truly useful, not something that gives nutrition facts of random stuff you choose. Even better than that would be a sports dietitian, but people here have a prejudice against them as if they knew better...


    Really? Damn, I downloaded a cool one too that once you reach your day's goal it shoots off fireworks on your screen for positive reinforcement and stuff. OP do you plan your meals?


    I pretty much already set my meals with the usual eggs/milk/banana in the morning, Chicken breast in the evening and again at night though paired with rice and some kind of vegetable.

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    BloodFlame saidI pretty much already set my meals with the usual eggs/milk/banana in the morning, Chicken breast in the evening and again at night though paired with rice and some kind of vegetable.


    So you have just 3 meals per day and you spend all the afternoon with no food whatsoever?
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    Jun 05, 2016 5:14 AM GMT
    You're not doing it right. Calories are key.

    AAS, and other PEDs, have been well studied the last few years.

    In the latest studies from the American Heart Association and The American Society of Urologists, as well as their counter parts in Europe, cardiac mortality is IMPROVED in AAS users by over 57%. As well, vascular changes that provide protective CV elements are well documented. AAS users haven't and won't be dropping over like flies any day soon. All the science points to the fact that it's good medicine not just promoting athletic performance, but, also, improved cognitive function, improve cardiac function, and fewer issues with geriatric disease. This is well known science via HIV patients, bodybuilders, and HRT participants.

    My medical team actively ENCOURAGES my bodybuilding pursuits (they are abreast of the true science).

    I encourage you to research the AHA studies, along with JAMA, their European counterparts. You may be surprised. http://www.testosteronenation.com for a guide down the path of good science and the amazing, life giving, and life enhancing, results.
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    Jun 05, 2016 7:29 AM GMT
    I don't have any experience with them, and I think people won't admit here openly. You need to find some member, which shouldn't be hard, given how common they are, and PM them.