A Sad Luncheon Today

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    Jun 07, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
    We're going to Rosie's in Wilton Manors for lunch shortly. Along with 2 friends. We want to learn more about the memorial they're planning for one of their managers, who died a few days ago.

    We knew her well. Starting as a young server there, she worked herself up to being a manager. She also participated in our SMART Ride annual charity bicycle ride for HIV/AIDS.

    We're told she committed suicide. Because of her Asian's family's strong opposition to her being a lesbian, and working in a gay-owned restaurant with a heavily gay clientele. We don't know for sure. We may learn for certain today at lunch. Being a private & sensitive subject we may not be told.

    But if it's true another instance of anti-gay hatred & prejudice resulting in suicide. Even of someone who had reached around 30 years of age. I'm dreading this lunch, but have to attend. And will be attending the memorial they're having when we have the exact details. icon_cry.gif
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    Jun 07, 2016 7:29 PM GMT
    Sad. Sorry for the loss of your friend.
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    Jun 07, 2016 8:28 PM GMT
    Not4u saidSad. Sorry for the loss of your friend.

    Thank you. We learned today the location & time of the remembrance next week. I've selected a photo I took of her with my husband on the SMART Ride. I'll have it printed and framed to display. I'm not sure who'll want or get it afterwards, maybe we will. Her family in Boston totally rejects anything LGBT, so I doubt it'll go there. We'll sort that out next week.
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    Jun 07, 2016 8:51 PM GMT
    This stirs a memory, my mind making a hard left towards the macabre.

    In Milford, PA, an unusually gay town a 90 minute drive from Manhattan (with gays divided between townies and city weekenders who eventually move) there was an inn right in the center of town owned by a long term gay couple.

    They sold the inn and restaurant to their hostess, who'd also brought along her husband, the eventual chef.

    Right then, rich city gays fancied up a rival Victorian inn, installed a sleek urban gay bar in its basement, cranked up the PR machine and redubbed the area formerly known as the "Poconos" (which was actually a tad north of the actual Poconos centered 'round the cheesy venues of the Delaware Water Gap) to "The Delaware Highlands" (fancy!), which local brokers, among them a gay former Broadway dancer, proliferated. That, in collaboration with the most influential factor, market forces (pioneered areas are the LAST to go up in value, and the FIRST to go down), helped hype Milford as its gay heart, a "gaystination" (my phrase), escalating real estate prices.

    The former restaurant hostess and her chef husband, so nice with such a longstanding relationship with the owners that they presumably bought the inn for a great price, sold it within a couple years around 2006 for at least $1M, at least tripling their money. Suddenly, the former hostess became a millionairress.

    As for the long term gay couple they bought their inn from?

    One committed suicide either shortly before or after the sale.

    Though far from being a ghost town, Milford never lived up to the hype after the market crash of 2008. The fancy gay gift shop, Italian meat market, and coffee shop closed, the "arts nights" at the galleries and art and film festivals presumably diminished or discontinued, and new agents at scores of new real estate franchise offices (where before there'd been two, there were a dozen) that'd sprung up seemingly overnight starved.

    Perhaps no one speaks of Milford anymore. And its reversal of fortune all seems to have been kicked off by the vengeful ghost of the tragic gay suicide.

    One can only hope Wilton Manors doesn't meet the same fate.
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    Jun 08, 2016 2:02 AM GMT
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    One can only hope Wilton Manors doesn't meet the same fate.

    I doubt it will. First, this tragic young lady was an assistant manager, not an owner. Sad to say, I doubt her suicide will cast that great a pall over the community. We're upset because we'd known her for years.

    Second, Wilton Manors is cushioned by the larger adjacent city of Fort Lauderdale. Along with other growing towns all around here. From which Wilton Manors draws a lot of its energy and its own growth. I don't think a single tragedy like this will slow our city down.

    BTW, as I posted above, I've already printed & framed a photo of her as I had intended. These memorials usually feature images from the late person's life. We'll offer this one, which I'm sure will be used.
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    Jun 08, 2016 2:08 AM GMT
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."
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    Jun 08, 2016 2:33 AM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."

    We had lunch where she had been employed, and where we could learn the details of her memorial. To be held at this same place.

    There was no wake or funeral to attend because she was cremated, without any service being performed here. Her ashes were sent to her family in Boston. This memorial is being conducted by her employers, who are closing their restaurant for 3 hours this coming Wednesday for the memorial. At an obvious cost to them in lost business.

    So I'm not sure why you think having lunch there today was "sad" in a disparaging sense. Aside from learning what the memorial plans are, it allowed us to share our condolences with some of her coworkers.
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    Jun 08, 2016 2:34 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."

    We had lunch where she had been employed, and where we could learn the details of her memorial. To be held at this same place.

    There was no wake or funeral to attend because she was cremated, without any service being performed here. Her ashes were sent to her family in Boston. This memorial is being conducted by her employers, who are closing their restaurant for 3 hours this coming Wednesday. At an obvious cost to them in lost business.

    So I'm not sure why you think having lunch there today was "sad". Aside from learning what the memorial plans are, it allowed us to share our condolences with some of her coworkers.


    It's all hearsay. Nice ideological hostage-taking.
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    Jun 08, 2016 2:35 AM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."

    We had lunch where she had been employed, and where we could learn the details of her memorial. To be held at this same place.

    There was no wake or funeral to attend because she was cremated, without any service being performed here. Her ashes were sent to her family in Boston. This memorial is being conducted by her employers, who are closing their restaurant for 3 hours this coming Wednesday. At an obvious cost to them in lost business.

    So I'm not sure why you think having lunch there today was "sad" in a disparaging sense. Aside from learning what the memorial plans are, it allowed us to share our condolences with some of her coworkers.

    It's all hearsay. Nice ideological hostage-taking.

    WHAT??? Ideological hostage-taking??? You are wacko.
  • venue35

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    Jun 08, 2016 9:30 PM GMT
    Sad to hear someone die at such a young age. She should have just cut them off from her life not kill herself but who knows what really happened maybe she was going through a depression
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    Jun 08, 2016 9:53 PM GMT
    venue35 said
    Sad to hear someone die at such a young age. She should have just cut them off from her life not kill herself but who knows what really happened maybe she was going through a depression

    Yes, very sad. A number of people are now saying she was depressed. I never suspected that. Monday morning quarterbacking?

    I knew she had some back pain, that sometimes took away her smile. But we always hugged & kissed whenever I saw her, as did my husband. And I'd compliment her on her outfits, always very stylish. Once she became a manager she could wear whatever she wanted, not confined to the "uniforms" the rest of the restaurant staff wear.

    Naturally my husband & I are very upset. We had no clue, no sign that something was wrong. I'm not sure we could have done anything about it, but still, you feel like you missed an opportunity to help.

    Such a beautiful young lady, who worked herself "up through the ranks" from server to manager. I know the owners are distraught. And wouldn't close their busy restaurant for 3 hours to host a remembrance with a buffet at their expense if it were otherwise.
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    Jun 10, 2016 3:11 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."

    We had lunch where she had been employed, and where we could learn the details of her memorial. To be held at this same place.

    There was no wake or funeral to attend because she was cremated, without any service being performed here. Her ashes were sent to her family in Boston. This memorial is being conducted by her employers, who are closing their restaurant for 3 hours this coming Wednesday. At an obvious cost to them in lost business.

    So I'm not sure why you think having lunch there today was "sad" in a disparaging sense. Aside from learning what the memorial plans are, it allowed us to share our condolences with some of her coworkers.

    It's all hearsay. Nice ideological hostage-taking.

    WHAT??? Ideological hostage-taking??? You are wacko.


    Cloying melodrama which allows no room for questioning. Typical white Liberal Orwellian/fascist tactics.

    This is better suited for Joe.My.God or Towleroad, which specialize in this kind of muddelheaded excrement.
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    Jun 10, 2016 3:33 AM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    Art_Deco said
    JackNNJ said
    What's sad is that you're went to a "luncheon."

    We had lunch where she had been employed, and where we could learn the details of her memorial. To be held at this same place.

    There was no wake or funeral to attend because she was cremated, without any service being performed here. Her ashes were sent to her family in Boston. This memorial is being conducted by her employers, who are closing their restaurant for 3 hours this coming Wednesday. At an obvious cost to them in lost business.

    So I'm not sure why you think having lunch there today was "sad" in a disparaging sense. Aside from learning what the memorial plans are, it allowed us to share our condolences with some of her coworkers.

    It's all hearsay. Nice ideological hostage-taking.

    WHAT??? Ideological hostage-taking??? You are wacko.


    Cloying melodrama which allows no room for questioning. Typical white Liberal Orwellian/fascist tactics.

    This is better suited for Joe.My.God or Towleroad, which specialize in this kind of muddelheaded excrement.


    It's unfortunate that you are unable to see anything positive in this.