Terrorist Palestinians Carrying Out The Tel Aviv Terror Attack

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    Jun 09, 2016 12:12 AM GMT
    MORE GUN CONTROL??? Maybe for the radicals!!
    Palestinian's Carrying Out The Tel Aviv Terror Attack

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    Jun 09, 2016 7:00 AM GMT
    Boy, the "terrorists" people of Palestine sure have changed, reports said the gunman were dressed like Orthodox religious Jews, but in the video they look more like "the men in black", KGB or CIA under cover men, (or at least the Blues Brothers), this was no terrorist attack as we know it, looks professional, calling them terrorists is a bit premature after seeing this video icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Maybe Smith agents?

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    Jun 10, 2016 12:49 AM GMT
    CORRECTION: As a result of an editing mistake, an earlier version of this story appeared to call into question whether the Tel Aviv attack was an act of terrorism. It undoubtedly was. The story was corrected


    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/middleeast/israel-tel-aviv-shooting/
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    Jun 11, 2016 2:52 AM GMT
    Very sad deal here.....no one cares?
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    Jun 13, 2016 2:00 AM GMT
    GymFreak> Terrorist attack? Nazists and their supporters said the same of the resistance.

    You mean people like this guy?
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    Husseini was the leader of the Arab High Command, the organization representing the Arabs of Mandate Palestine (who were not yet then known as "Palestinians".

    While I don't recall the WW II Resistance executing innocent civilians in Berlin, Husseini was involved in the slaughter of innocent civilians.

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    GymFreak> When we speak about something we must remember the context and the context here is an occupied territory

    Not only isn't Tel Aviv "occupied", but no context can excuse, rationalize let alone justify such barbaric targeting and slaughter of innocent people at point blank range.

    No more than we have to "remember the context" that those slaughtered in Orlando were gays who the shooter thought were worthy of death.

    WE ARE ORLANDO.
    WE ARE TEL-AVIV.

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    Jun 13, 2016 9:43 AM GMT
    Typically clueless idiot> While I don't recall the WW II Resistance executing innocent civilians in Berlin

    Of course, had this flunky any familiarity with history, he'd know the Partisans staged many gruesome executions, as well as brutal attacks targeting civilians.

    WE ARE GAZA.
    WE ARE YEMEN.
    WE ARE KASHMIR.


    No justice. No peace.
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    Jun 13, 2016 2:34 PM GMT
    Once again AyaTrolLiar founcer shows his support for the mass murder of Jews/Israelis.

    WE ARE ORLANDO.
    WE ARE TEL AVIV.


    ATLF> WE ARE GAZA.
    WE ARE YEMEN.
    WE ARE KASHMIR.

    HE IS HAMAS.
    HE IS HIZBULLAH.
    HE IS IRAN.
    HE IS ASSAD.
    HE IS AL QAIDA.
    HE IS ISIS.

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    Jun 13, 2016 2:36 PM GMT
    Once again AyaTrolLiar founcer proves that he isn't seeking peace but to punish Jews.

    ATLF> No justice. No peace.

    What is "justice" to one side is an INJUSTICE to the other side.
    Peace is based on COMPROMISE.


    Let's talk peace: The two-state solution
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    Jun 13, 2016 2:43 PM GMT
    Arrant nonsense. Justice is a legal concept, not your subjective emotional bunk.

    One does not compromise with criminals. One brings them to JUSTICE.

    International legality is not a matter of drawing a halfway line between two opposing sides, but consulting the International Court of JUSTICE.

    Gay marriage is not an "injustice" to fundamentalist Christians, but JUSTICE to people who are gay.

    Palestinian statehood and the Right of Return is not an "injustice" to Israel, but JUSTICE to the Palestinian people.

    Are the "pro"-Israel trolls really so corrupt that they have to twist and impugn noble, wholly uncontroversial legal concepts like justice?!
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    Jun 13, 2016 2:47 PM GMT
    Pervert> [insinuates I'm two diametrically opposed sides in a civil war - logic was never his strong suit]

    HE IS DICK CHENEY
    HE IS THE BRITISH EMPIRE
    HE IS RICHARD NIXON
    HE IS THE IRAQ WAR
    HE IS DONALD TRUMP
    HE IS SAUDI ARABIA
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    Jun 13, 2016 4:05 PM GMT
    JTheM saidinsinuates I'm two diametrically opposed sides in a civil war - logic was never his strong suit

    ROTFL. The AyaTrolLiar twister again lacks not just intelligence and logic, but nuance.
    My comments were not limited to the Syrian civil war - which wasn't mentioned.
    [If either Al Qaida or ISIS/Daesh were to attack Israel, he'd support that.]

    The AyaTrolLiar's support for Assad, Hamas, Hizbullah and the Iranian Ayatollahs is legendary.
    Note: NOT for Syrians, Palestinian Arabs, Lebanese or the Iranian people.
    He supports the above against the West, ostensibly because he's anti-Empire/colonization.
    (Yet he supports such endeavors from the East.)

    He supports ISIS over the "British Empire", "Richard Nixon", "Dick Cheney" and "Donald Trump".
    He believes Al Qaida's 9/11 attack was legitimate "blowback".

    The enemy of his enemy is his friend.
    The contradiction is all his.
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    Jun 13, 2016 4:10 PM GMT
    Once again AyaTrolLiar founcer proves that he isn't seeking peace but to punish Jews.

    ATLF> No justice. No peace.

    What is "justice" to one side is an INJUSTICE to the other side.
    Peace is based on COMPROMISE.


    Let's talk peace: The two-state solution
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4180210

    ATLF> International legality is not a matter of drawing a halfway line between two opposing sides, but consulting the International Court of JUSTICE.

    ROTFL. This coming from someone who until recently thought UN General Assembly Resolutions constituted "International Law", as if the UN was a legislature? (Never mind that he ignored those Resolutions which weren't convenient.)

    Someone who is such a simpleton who thinks that "compromise" is a "halfway line"?

    Someone who is such a fanatic that the concept of Sui Generis eludes him?


    ATLF> Palestinian statehood and the Right of Return is not an "injustice" to Israel, but JUSTICE to the Palestinian people.

    Because statehood and self-determination for the Palestinian Arabs (a 20th century group) is sacrosanct while statehood and self-determination for Jews, on the land they've inhabited, CONTINUOUSLY, for at least 3,300 years, is not "justice"? (Or in the Anti-semitic troll's own words, "One Jewish state is too many".)

    Note also that he again exposes himself as being against the two-state solution (meaning one Arab state and one Jewish state), seeking to flood Israel with millions of refugees/descendants to demographically destroy it as we know it.

    What this racist hater is really seeking to justify is WAR FOREVER against Israel, until his side wins.
    He has already conceded he is not a "humanitarian" or a "peacenik". He is a war monger.
    And he's willing to sacrifice the Palestinian Arabs in his wars against the Jews/Israel.
    If they made peace, that would close his window to wage his war.

    Thus he is against peace, and considers people like Anwar Sadat, King Hussein and even Yasser Arafat (once he stopped murdering innocents and gave peace a chance) to be "Quislings", shifting his support to groups like Hizbullah and Hamas (which he opposed back when its predecessors were mostly non-violent and engaged in bona fide charity work, caring for Palestinian Arab orphans, widows, the elderly, etc.)
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    Jun 13, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
    Pervert> The AyaTrolLiar twister again lacks not just intelligence and logic, but nuance.
    My comments were not limited to the Syrian civil war - which wasn't mentioned

    You lied that I "support" Assad.
    Even crazier, you went on to lie that I "support" ISIS and al-Qaeda, which of course you're too dumb to realize is like saying I support Ronald Reagan and Bernie Sanders, or, in the context of the war currently waging, the Americans and the Vietcong.

    No surprise to see you stumped to find even a single example of me supporting "Eastern" imperialism (the foil through which you, a disgusting racist, seek to lend credence to WESTERN imperialism), or to see you deliberately misrepresent a term like "blowback" as lending "legitimacy" to 9/11 (a true insight into the ravaged, crazed mind of a right-wing demagogue).

    Likewise, the faux juxtaposition of IS against the British Empire and Donald Trump is your retarded binary (non-)thinking, not mine.


    Pervert> This coming from someone who until recently thought UN General Assembly Resolutions constituted "International Law", as if the UN was a legislature? (Never mind that he ignored those Resolutions which weren't convenient.)

    Unfortunately, no one has any idea what you're talking about.
    That's what happens when you constantly invent BS on the loop and shoot it out your malodorant arse.

    Pervert> Because statehood and self-determination for the Palestinian Arabs ... is sacrosanct while statehood and self-determination for Jews, on the land they've inhabited, CONTINUOUSLY, for at least 3,300 years, is not "justice"?

    The World Court has told you to respect the Palestinian right to national self-determination and withdraw from the territory the entire world recognizes to be the Palestinian state.

    Until you do, you are an international outlaw and rogue state. The world will boycott you, and the Palestinians have every right to kill you.
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    Pervert> Note also that he again exposes himself as being against the two-state solution (meaning one Arab state and one Jewish state), seeking to flood Israel with millions of refugees/descendants to demographically destroy it as we know it

    That's the thing with ethnic cleansers: they want their war crimes to be respected as legitimate "facts on the ground".

    Sorry, Milošević doesn't get to have his "Serb" Kosovo by expelling Muslims who don't agree with his plans, nor do you get to have your "Jewish" Palestine by expelling the majority population who don't want to live in a Zionist state.

    Of course, there are avenues to go down if Israel wants to avert a full-scale Palestiniam return to their historic homeland, but that will come at the cost of torching the edifice of lies surrounding the 1948 War, paying up handsomely, and begging, humbly, for forgiveness.

    PS. Notice the pervert is again double-posting? (No one comments in his threads)
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    Jun 13, 2016 8:12 PM GMT
    I usually ignore his sentiment-heavy black and white drivel about other people's motivations (just the usual demagogic slander), but this was too delicious to ignore:

    Pervert> Yasser Arafat (once he stopped murdering innocents and gave peace a chance)

    As if Arafat became less (as opposed to more) brutal over time?

    Let me amend that for you:

    Pervert> Yasser Arafat (once he stopped murdering Israelis and was paid to turn his guns on his own people - establishing the friendly dictatorship called the PA, designed to cure Israel of its post-Intifada image problem and deny millions of civilians their rights).

    But then again, what does one expect from the iconic defender of war crimes and crimes against humanity that "shocked and shamed the world" (to quote Ban Ki-moon), including the bombing of refugee shelters and hospitals, even with white phosphorus?
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    Jun 17, 2016 1:45 PM GMT
    AyaTrolLiar founcer [now posting as JTheM] blurted
    the Palestinians have every right to kill you.

    Once again AyaTrolLiar founcer proves that he isn't seeking peace but to punish - and MURDER - Jews!


    ATLF> No justice. No peace.

    What is "justice" to one side is an INJUSTICE to the other side.
    Peace is based on COMPROMISE.


    Let's talk peace: The two-state solution
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4180210

    ATLF> International legality is not a matter of drawing a halfway line between two opposing sides, but consulting the International Court of JUSTICE.

    ROTFL. This coming from someone who until recently thought UN General Assembly Resolutions constituted "International Law", as if the UN was a legislature? (Never mind that he ignored those Resolutions which weren't convenient.)

    Someone who is such a simpleton who thinks that "compromise" is a "halfway line"?

    Someone who is such a fanatic that the concept of Sui Generis eludes him?

    As often noted, the best case is that the AyaTrolLiar is a paid Iranian agent.
    Because it's hard to believe that any (allegedly) educated person in the West is truly that messed up.


    ATLF> Palestinian statehood and the Right of Return is not an "injustice" to Israel, but JUSTICE to the Palestinian people.

    Because statehood and self-determination for the Palestinian Arabs (a 20th century group) is sacrosanct while statehood and self-determination for Jews, on the land they've inhabited, CONTINUOUSLY, for at least 3,300 years, is not "justice"? (Or in the Anti-semitic troll's own words, "One Jewish state is too many".)

    Note also that he again exposes himself as being against the two-state solution (meaning one Arab state and one Jewish state), seeking to flood Israel with millions of refugees/descendants to demographically destroy it as we know it.

    What this racist hater is really seeking to justify is WAR FOREVER against Israel, until his side wins.
    He has already conceded he is not a "humanitarian" or a "peacenik". He is a war monger.
    And he's willing to sacrifice the Palestinian Arabs in his wars against the Jews/Israel.
    If they made peace, that would close his window to wage his war.

    Thus he is against peace, and considers people like Anwar Sadat, King Hussein and even Yasser Arafat (once he stopped murdering innocents and gave peace a chance) to be "Quislings", shifting his support to groups like Hizbullah and Hamas (which he opposed back when its predecessors were mostly non-violent and engaged in bona fide charity work, caring for Palestinian Arab orphans, widows, the elderly, etc.)

    ATLF> Arafat... establishing the friendly dictatorship called the PA, designed to cure Israel of its post-Intifada image problem and deny millions of civilians their rights

    What an awkward way to finally admit that Palestinian Arabs had MORE rights under the Israeli "occupation" than they do under PA rule (Arafat was elected).

    Missing is that the Palestinian Arabs have even LESS rights under Hamas rule than under PA let alone Israeli rule. That Hamas seized total power (evicting the democratically elected president) and has refused further elections (which he justified, saying the Palestinian Arabs knew Hamas and that this would happen, as if 44% of the population can vote to suspend democracy?)

    Once again it becomes clear that the AyaTrolLiar couldn't care less about the Palestinian Arabs.
    He's just here to hate Jews/Israel.
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    Jun 17, 2016 9:22 PM GMT
    Very Ugly Pervert> What an awkward way to finally admit that Palestinian Arabs had MORE rights under the Israeli "occupation" than they do under PA rule (Arafat was elected)

    Hardly. It's not as if the PA isn't armed, trained and given its marching orders by Israel (hollow "neo-colonial dependency" that it is), but even then it can hardly claim to be as brutal as the reviled occupier, as if the crushing of the Intifadas, the constant abuse and military assaults by the former bare comparison in any way with the tinpot tyranny of the latter.

    Very Ugly Pervert> Missing is that the Palestinian Arabs have even LESS rights under Hamas rule than under PA let alone Israeli rule

    Except Palestinians rate press freedom under Hamas in Gaza better than they do under the PA. As we have seen, the PA not only has far less democratic legitimacy than Hamas (ie. none at all), but actually commits more crimes (in the name of Israel) against its people.

    Very Ugly Pervert> That Hamas seized total power (evicting the democratically elected president) and has refused further elections

    Actually the corruptly elected president (read dictator) who alone has the authority to call national elections.

    What is it exactly that the US and Israel like about Abbas? Is it his brainlessness, genuine anti-Semitism and senile incompetence? Or is it his unrivalled contempt for democracy, having stole one election (then way overstayed the mandate it would have given him had it been free and fair), and abused his office by trying to overthrow and dismiss the only legitimately elected government in the country, that appealed to them?
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    Jun 17, 2016 11:02 PM GMT
    ATLF> No justice. No peace.

    What is "justice" to one side is an INJUSTICE to the other side.
    Peace is based on COMPROMISE.


    Let's talk peace: The two-state solution
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4180210

    ATLF> International legality is not a matter of drawing a halfway line between two opposing sides, but consulting the International Court of JUSTICE.

    ROTFL. This coming from someone who until recently thought UN General Assembly Resolutions constituted "International Law", as if the UN was a legislature? (Never mind that he ignored those Resolutions which weren't convenient.)

    Someone who is such a simpleton who thinks that "compromise" is a "halfway line"?

    Someone who is such a fanatic that the concept of Sui Generis eludes him?

    As often noted, the best case is that the AyaTrolLiar is a paid Iranian agent.
    Because it's hard to believe that any (allegedly) educated person in the West is truly that messed up.


    ATLF> Palestinian statehood and the Right of Return is not an "injustice" to Israel, but JUSTICE to the Palestinian people.

    Because statehood and self-determination for the Palestinian Arabs (a 20th century group) is sacrosanct while statehood and self-determination for Jews, on the land they've inhabited, CONTINUOUSLY, for at least 3,300 years, is not "justice"? (Or in the Anti-semitic troll's own words, "One Jewish state is too many".)

    Note also that he again exposes himself as being against the two-state solution (meaning one Arab state and one Jewish state), seeking to flood Israel with millions of refugees/descendants to demographically destroy it as we know it.

    What this racist hater is really seeking to justify is WAR FOREVER against Israel, until his side wins.
    He has already conceded he is not a "humanitarian" or a "peacenik". He is a war monger.
    And he's willing to sacrifice the Palestinian Arabs in his wars against the Jews/Israel.
    If they made peace, that would close his window to wage his war.

    Thus he is against peace, and considers people like Anwar Sadat, King Hussein and even Yasser Arafat (once he stopped murdering innocents and gave peace a chance) to be "Quislings", shifting his support to groups like Hizbullah and Hamas (which he opposed back when its predecessors were mostly non-violent and engaged in bona fide charity work, caring for Palestinian Arab orphans, widows, the elderly, etc.)

    ATLF> Arafat... establishing the friendly dictatorship called the PA, designed to cure Israel of its post-Intifada image problem and deny millions of civilians their rights

    What an awkward way to finally admit that Palestinian Arabs had MORE rights under the Israeli "occupation" than they do under PA rule (Arafat was elected).

    AyaTrolLiar> as if the crushing of the Intifadas, the constant abuse and military assaults by the former bare comparison in any way with the tinpot tyranny of the latter.

    The fact of the matter is that in day-to-day life, the vast majority of Arab civilians were not subject to "crushing of the Intifadas" or "military assaults". And in day-to-day life, the PA (and Hamas - see below) "tinpot tyranny" is much more repressive.


    Missing is that the Palestinian Arabs have even LESS rights under Hamas rule than under PA let alone Israeli rule. That Hamas seized total power (evicting the democratically elected president) and has refused further elections (which he justified, saying the Palestinian Arabs knew Hamas and that this would happen, as if 44% of the population can vote to suspend democracy?)

    AyaTrolLiar> Palestinians rate press freedom under Hamas in Gaza better than they do under the PA

    That's the one metric you choose to compare?!

    And it's just more selective nonsense in pursuit of his warped methodology.
    From the latest PCPSR (June 2016) poll:

    || 17% say there is press freedom in the West Bank [under PA rule] and 16% say the same about the status of the press in the Gaza
    Strip [under Hamas rule].

    The crimes of the Hamas "government", are they being done in the name of Iran or of Islam?


    AyaTrolLiar> the corruptly elected president (read dictator) who alone has the authority to call national elections.

    On paper, he is granted that power. But he cannot enforce that in Gaza (illegally and violently seized by Hamas) without the cooperation of Hamas, and Hamas has opposed this.


    What is it exactly that the AyaTrolLiar likes about Hamas, Hizbullah, etc?
    That they attack Israel and murder Jews!


    Once again it becomes clear that the AyaTrolLiar couldn't care less about the Palestinian Arabs.
    He's just here to hate Jews/Israel.


    Yup:

    AyaTrolLiar founcer [now posting as JTheM] blurted
    the Palestinians have every right to kill you.

    Once again AyaTrolLiar founcer proves that he isn't seeking peace but to punish - and MURDER - Jews!

    AyaTrolLiar> [crawls back under his rock]