Where to find nutrition counseling without paying an arm and leg for it?

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    Jun 12, 2016 8:25 PM GMT
    I have high blood pressure and cholesterol on the borderline side. I am also overweight so per recommendation of my PCP I was referred to one of their nutrition counselors inside the medical network but my f__cking insurance company plan won't cover this because I am not diabetic. Instead of paying $20, I would have to pay $180 for each 1 hour visit with licensed nutritionist. Does not matter to them I have HBP or was referred from the doctor. I had a referrral code.

    So I called my gym (24 hour fitness) to ask for their program. I remember my old gym used to have onsite not only onsite training but also nutrition counseling and even metabolic testing. I just never took full advantage of old gym because of working graveyard shift. At my current gym I make at least 2-3 times a week to do some cardio and weight lifting. I simply come and go whether it is convenient, if I have to make some slight change due to commitment to work I simply reschedule a few hours or next day.

    So I called my current gym to ask about RD and they told me they don't have it but they have some fitness instructors specialized in nutrition so great! And so I get transferred to gym manager who is also instructor and immidiately I get pushed to take from them 30 sessions for $2000 or 15 for $860. It is not a bad plan, but it is something I cannot just easily throw money at due to mountain of other expenses which are not cheap in Silicon Valley. He told me he cannot cut it further in half but if I really can't afford he would work with me on some alternative. I already don't like it that he sounds like pushy timeshare sales guy and make it sound like investment in health must be expensive, it does not need to be IMO. All I want is to work on my nutrition plan that fits my current situation and work schedule and maybe 2-3 sessions to learn some more ropes for exercise like squates.

    So I have the question? Where else I can find registered diedeticians? Whole foods? Safeway? That perhaps don't cost $200? What about my gym? How should respond to my pushy manager or maybe change the gym if he does not back down? The only thing is if I change gym, there is really no other gyms in the area that are 24/7.
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    Jun 12, 2016 8:32 PM GMT
    go vegan, eat what freelea ( the banana girl ) is eating and you will lose weight in no time, she is easily found on youtube , dance, move around.
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    Jun 12, 2016 8:37 PM GMT
    Bonaparts saidgo vegan, eat what freelea ( the banana girl ) is eating and you will lose weight in no time, she is easily found on youtube , dance, move around.



    I am blood type O - to which according to it I inherited genes from my ancestors that work best with carnivore diet.
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    Jun 12, 2016 8:39 PM GMT
    ouh, so you are an excuse maker, but that is only logical, otherwise you wouldn't be overweight, start with yourself, acknowledge you have a psychological problem.
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    Jun 12, 2016 8:44 PM GMT
    You can find free nutritional info online.

    Even if you are carnivorous, you can easily cut down on meat.

    If you cut out all processed foods this would be a great start.

    If you cut out any refined foods eg white flour, white sugar, glucose fructose syrup, corn syrup etc this would be good too.

    Replace with leafy green veg and a multitude of pulses.......et voilĂ .

    Snack on fruits and nuts rather than pastries and chips.

    It's pretty simple stuff.
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    Jun 12, 2016 8:45 PM GMT
    That was quick..... in the time it took me to write my post the OP has deleted himself
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    Jun 12, 2016 9:03 PM GMT
    My blood type is AB - I think that means my ancestors were cannibals. icon_eek.gif

    But an option for some guys here may be found on a university campus. It would appear the OP is not in college (can't tell with a hidden RJ profile), but some other members are.

    Larger universities offer all kinds of student services you'd never guess. Free nutrition counseling may be available through a school of medicine on campus, or the athletic department, student health services, food services, general student services. It doesn't hurt to look into the possibility on your own campus.

    Some more forward-thinking businesses (and a few of them in his Silicon Valley) may also offer something with a nutritional focus. Companies will also underwrite employee gym membership in full or part, or have their own on-site facility. The thinking is that these kinds of perks are good recruiting & retention tools for the demographic many tech companies are seeking. Plus a healthier employee is a more productive & contented employee, with fewer sick days.
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    Jun 12, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
    why does he need counseling if he is full of excuses, he is just time waster.
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    Jun 12, 2016 9:36 PM GMT
    transient saidYou can find free nutritional info online.

    Even if you are carnivorous, you can easily cut down on meat.

    If you cut out all processed foods this would be a great start.

    If you cut out any refined foods eg white flour, white sugar, glucose fructose syrup, corn syrup etc this would be good too.

    Replace with leafy green veg and a multitude of pulses.......et voilĂ .

    Snack on fruits and nuts rather than pastries and chips.

    It's pretty simple stuff.


    I eliminated from my diet processed frozen food. But it has not gone far. Before I go to work, I drink simply casein protein with almond milk and eat nothing else. For lunch, I eat what at my company orders for catered food via waiter.com which changes everyday. Asian, Mexican, Indian. However, the food sometimes is meh, they will plenty of white rice, salad, but almost no mead leaving me hungry. I have at work snacks, but typically the only snacks I eat are mixed nuts. When I come home for dinner, I make my own food with brown rice, steamed brocolli and baked/grilled chicken or go to whole foods to make my entree. After a few months of doing this I have not noticed dramatic weight loss. Perhaps my company's provided lunch is very unhealthy and don't realize it.
    This is why I decided to work on my daily meal plan with nutritionist so she can help me fill gaps for me. I think I may be having too many carbs, but then on my workout days, if I eat no carbs at all (like rice or bread (whole grain)) then I cannot lift much.
    Now I eat some things to relax from dieting a little bit, every week on Saturday I make my own waffles made with whole grain or eat ice cream. But breaking once a week rule should not reverse my diet?

    I don't go to college. I work full time, sometimes 60 hours a week. It is mostly at the desk job, lots of sitting. Sometimes I am unable to get out much on Saturday or Sunday when I am on call. I live in Mountain View, CA.
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    Jun 13, 2016 12:43 AM GMT
    You don't want to pay 180$ because it's too much for your income or because you think it's not worth the money?
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    Jun 13, 2016 12:55 AM GMT
    bachian saidYou don't want to pay 180$ because it's too much for your income or because you think it's not worth the money?


    Its too much for a single visit with nutritionist for my income. I will be already burned with medical bill after doing necessary cardiac MRI. $100 would be more reasonable. I really don't think a single visit will be all it takes. If I was working for a Google making good money, I would not be wasting my time asking on this forum and more than likely I would be already healthy. Its the fact of life that higher income people are healthier people, while poorer have ironically poorer access to things they need the most.

    Insurance won't cover because I am not diabetic. It so stupid, the healthcare in the US is a joke.

    Also the RD were part of the medical network PAMF/Shutter in the Bay Area which I know is expensive. They once billed $300 after insurance refused to cover office visit and treatment of foot blister. I will look for independent RD to see if its cheaper.
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    Jun 13, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
    Read ...The Paleo Solution ...by Robb Wolfe. He also has a website . Nutritionists will have you eating from the USDA food pyramid which has created an obese America.



    quote][cite]Does not matter to them I have HBP or was ition counseling and even metabo said[/cite]I have high tritionist. lic testing. I just never took full advantage of old gym because of working graveyard shift. At my current gym I make at least 2-3 times a week to do some cardio and weight lifting. I simply come and go whether it is convenient, if I have to make some slight change due to commitment to work I simply reschedule a few hours or next day.

    So I called my current gym to ask about RD and they told me they don't have it but they have some fitness instructors specialized in nutrition so great! And so I get transferred to gym manager who is also instructor and immidiately I get pushed to take from them 30 sessions for $2000 or 15 for $860. It is not a bad plan, but it is something I cannot just easily throw money at due to mountain of other expenses which are not cheap in Silicon Valley. He told me he cannot cut it further in half but if I really can't afford he would work with me on some alternative. I already don't like it that he sounds like pushy timeshare sales guy and make it sound like investment in health must be expensive, it does not need to be IMO. All I want is to work on my nutrition plan that fits my current situation and work schedule and maybe 2-3 sessions to learn some more ropes for exercise like squates.

    So I have the question? Where else I can find registered diedeticians? Whole foods? Safeway? That perhaps don't cost $200? What about my gym? How should respond to my pushy manager or maybe change the gym if he does not back down? The only thing is if I change gym, there is really no other gyms in the area that are 24/7. [/quote]
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    Jun 14, 2016 12:44 AM GMT
    MaleElement saidRead ...The Paleo Solution ...by Robb Wolfe. He also has a website . Nutritionists will have you eating from the USDA food pyramid which has created an obese America.



    quote][cite]Does not matter to them I have HBP or was ition counseling and even metabo said[/cite]I have high tritionist. lic testing. I just never took full advantage of old gym because of working graveyard shift. At my current gym I make at least 2-3 times a week to do some cardio and weight lifting. I simply come and go whether it is convenient, if I have to make some slight change due to commitment to work I simply reschedule a few hours or next day.

    So I called my current gym to ask about RD and they told me they don't have it but they have some fitness instructors specialized in nutrition so great! And so I get transferred to gym manager who is also instructor and immidiately I get pushed to take from them 30 sessions for $2000 or 15 for $860. It is not a bad plan, but it is something I cannot just easily throw money at due to mountain of other expenses which are not cheap in Silicon Valley. He told me he cannot cut it further in half but if I really can't afford he would work with me on some alternative. I already don't like it that he sounds like pushy timeshare sales guy and make it sound like investment in health must be expensive, it does not need to be IMO. All I want is to work on my nutrition plan that fits my current situation and work schedule and maybe 2-3 sessions to learn some more ropes for exercise like squates.

    So I have the question? Where else I can find registered diedeticians? Whole foods? Safeway? That perhaps don't cost $200? What about my gym? How should respond to my pushy manager or maybe change the gym if he does not back down? The only thing is if I change gym, there is really no other gyms in the area that are 24/7.
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    Interesting... diary is supposedly very bad. I cut on diary but often use whey/casein protein as supplements after weight-lift workout. I use some milk in coffee but often do not eat cereals or do not drink a glass of milk. Does it mean if I follow Paleo diet I will have to give up on whey?

    I also heard that some saturated fats mainly from natural plant based sources such as avocado are very good for you but my doctor PCP was arguing I cannot have too much of avocado because its saturated fat. Then I told her its supposed to be healthier and not same as animal fat, but then cited me an example people from tropical countries who have diet based on coconut etc also have obesity problem.
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    Jun 14, 2016 11:29 PM GMT
    In Robb Wolfe's book he extends the a Paleo challenge ...don't believe it, but try it for thirty days..... and then lists exactly what to eat for every meal for 30 days. People that have done it have "cured" themselves of Diabetes. I have friends that have lost 20 lbs in that month without exercise.

    Bottom line, humans are by nature lean animals . Cut out the unnatural man made food and the body returns to its natural state. It is that simple

    The supreme irony is that all other animals know what to eat except the supposedly smartest one.