Whole Grains Help People Live Longer, Study Shows

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    Jun 14, 2016 10:41 AM GMT
    People who eat lots of whole grains are less likely than others to die of cardiovascular disease or cancer during long periods of follow-up, according to a new analysis of previous studies.

    The American Heart Association recommends that at least half of the grains we consume be whole grains, like oats or oatmeal, rye, barley, corn or brown rice. Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend three or more servings of whole grains per day, but most U.S. adults get less than one serving per day, the [latest study] authors write.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/whole-grains-help-people-live-longer-study-shows-n591521
  • interestingch...

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    Jun 14, 2016 1:17 PM GMT
    Thats good to know Art because heart problems run in the family, I have done much research on holistic medicine and diets and by eating 3 almonds every day will prevent cancer, apparently there is an enzyme that stops it from developing so unless you have a nut allergy then its worth trying and won't hurt, brazil nuts are also pretty good too but almonds are better.
    Another thing is that regular massages with peanut oil stops arthritis, also worth a try
  • leanandclean

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    Jun 14, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
    I eat lots of these but don't really want to live much past 85 or 90.
  • mcbrion

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    Jun 14, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidPeople who eat lots of whole grains are less likely than others to die of cardiovascular disease or cancer during long periods of follow-up, according to a new analysis of previous studies.

    The American Heart Association recommends that at least half of the grains we consume be whole grains, like oats or oatmeal, rye, barley, corn or brown rice. Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend three or more servings of whole grains per day, but most U.S. adults get less than one serving per day, the [latest study] authors write.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/whole-grains-help-people-live-longer-study-shows-n591521


    I hope the grains they are recommending are not high-glycemic/gluten-based. That would be counter-productive to continued good health.
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    Jun 14, 2016 6:28 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidPeople who eat lots of whole grains are less likely than others to die of cardiovascular disease or cancer during long periods of follow-up, according to a new analysis of previous studies.

    The American Heart Association recommends that at least half of the grains we consume be whole grains, like oats or oatmeal, rye, barley, corn or brown rice. Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend three or more servings of whole grains per day, but most U.S. adults get less than one serving per day, the [latest study] authors write.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/whole-grains-help-people-live-longer-study-shows-n591521
    I wish that these whole grains would help you think more clearly in terms of this upcoming November election.icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 14, 2016 6:50 PM GMT
    This contradicts the whole Paleo approach. I wonder what advocates are going to say about these new findings. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 14, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidThis contradicts the whole Paleo approach. I wonder what advocates are going to say about these new findings. icon_smile.gif

    The conventional thinking by the AMA, FDA, AHA, etc. contradicts the Paleo diet. Some aspects of the Paleo diet appeal to me (eating butter and animal fat, pork lard: yay!) but there is a lot of unscientific mumbo-jumbo behind it as well. Sally Fallon (click on her name for her bio; nothing there about an education in nutrition or any science) and the Weston A. Price foundation are some of the worst for making wild and unscientific claims.
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    Jun 14, 2016 11:18 PM GMT
    I like to think of myself as a scientifically minded person, yet I can't help but be very skeptical over studies like this. My Dad has always been a paranoid "conspiracy" type, guy. Maybe I've inherited some of that. All I can think of is, "follow the money."

    The book Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes is a fantastic read if you want some insight into the "science" behind these "Heart Healthy" studies. It opened my eyes to a lot, and after 2 years of reading, and researching, I've been Ketogenic, since. All my blood panels, inflammation markers, weight, sleep, energy... Everything is better.

    Being LGBT, we're often chanting about how important it is to keep an open mind about sexuality in others. Try to apply that to that mindset to dietary guidelines. It's completely possible (given the evolving nature of science and what we understand of it) that what we've been told all our lives is wrong. I shouldn't even need this disclaimer here, but the amount of backlash I get when I tell a queen I don't drink Starbucks sugar milk, is pretty unreal.
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    Jun 15, 2016 6:54 AM GMT
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    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidThis contradicts the whole Paleo approach. I wonder what advocates are going to say about these new findings. icon_smile.gif

    The conventional thinking by the AMA, FDA, AHA, etc. contradicts the Paleo diet. Some aspects of the Paleo diet appeal to me (eating butter and animal fat, pork lard: yay!) but there is a lot of unscientific mumbo-jumbo behind it as well. Sally Fallon (click on her name for her bio; nothing there about an education in nutrition or any science) and the Weston A. Price foundation are some of the worst for making wild and unscientific claims.


    I checked out Sally Fallon. I will look more into whether or not her claims are valid.

    On a personal note, I have come to the conclusion that eating a lot of meat and animal products has deleterious effects on my body. I have been striving to lose body fat and have had a lot of success over the past five months. But I noticed when I tried to eat a Paleo diet while intermittently fasting my prostate flared up and became quite painful. I don't eat red meat but I eat a lot of chicken and eggs. And when I increased my protein content by eating more of these foods I noticed my prostate become very inflamed.

    With my intermittent fasting I fast for sixteen hours and feed for eight hours. I noticed that my prostate started to become irritated every time I ate something. I eat from 2pm to 10pm. So my prostate felt fine until after eating my first big meal. So I decided to do a Google search and my engine was "every time I eat my prostate hurts" and I found this link: "Worse Foods for an Enlarged Prostate" and here is the link: http://www.avogel.co.uk/blog/2015/02/23/worst-foods-for-an-enlarged-prostate/

    In the link it says this about chicken and eggs:

    Eggs & Poultry
    A study published in the January 2006 issue of Urology which explored the connection between food and the increased occurrence of BPH symptoms, found that eating eggs and poultry appeared to increase symptoms, so these too should be avoided if possible. Egg yolks also have high levels of arachidonic acid, which, as mentioned earlier, increases inflammation. Try eating only the egg white, as this is a good source of protein.


    The article also discourages caffeine use which I was taking during my fasted state to lose more fat. And I think this compounded my prostate irritation.

    I used to eat roughly 100g worth of protein from chicken and eggs daily. Now I have switched to eating the equivalent in legumes and lentils and my prostate is 95% better.

    I also need to get another PSA test as I'm due but my last one was well within the normal range.
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    Jun 15, 2016 6:10 PM GMT
    KentuckyTuss saidThe book Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes is a fantastic read if you want some insight into the "science" behind these "Heart Healthy" studies.

    Gary Taubes is a journalist. I shouldn't need to say anything more but just to clarify, he's not a nutritionist, not a doctor, not a biochemist, or anything else that could give his claims validity. That's not to say that his claims are wrong but journalists have a vested interest in selling newspapers, their books, etc. For them it's more about grabbing eyeballs and sensationalism than telling the complete and factual story. Their research is haphazard at best; they're more likely to quote someone who makes startling claims rather than some boring scientist, who they probably wouldn't understand anyways.
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    Jun 16, 2016 2:42 AM GMT
    So if I add whole grains to my pizza, it will help me live longer? Awesome! icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 16, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
    I need whole grain Oreo cookies. Cripes, they make dozens of different varieties as it is, so why don't they make a whole grain one?
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    Jun 17, 2016 1:33 AM GMT
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    I need whole grain Oreo cookies. Cripes, they make dozens of different varieties as it is, so why don't they make a whole grain one?

    Well, at least they do make whole wheat Ritz crackers. Which taste to me virtually the same as the originals. I serve them to guests with spreads before dinner, not mentioning that they're whole wheat, and no one seems to notice any difference.

    And BTW, rye bread, mentioned in the article, has always been my favorite since I was a kid. My Mother would often take me into an old fashioned deli with her when she wanted fresh "cold cuts", especially during the summer heat when she didn't want a hot kitchen and we would often be eating outdoors picnic-style anyway.

    The kind of deli you see in movies, with overhead fans hanging from high hammered tin ceilings (before home ceiling fans became fashionable), solid walls of tall, heavy wooden shelves that could only be reached with a tracked step ladder that rolled next to them, or by using a long pole with a claw device at its end. And near the counter with its ornamented cast iron cash register were 2 large wooden barrels, one containing pickles, and the other barrel for pretzels. That you took out with a scoop to fill a small brown paper bag. Pretzels were often one of my treats if I'd been behaving.

    And the other treat was a loaf of rye bread, fresh-baked locally and sliced by the deli clerk to your choice of thickness. And I'd munch on those bread slices like they were candy, plain with nothing on them, nor between them. As much as I wanted, provided I left at least a few slices for Dad. Who says eating whole grains can't be enjoyable, rather than an obligation? And so earlier this week I bought a rye bread baked that day, from a modern deli, and had it sliced as I like, and presented in a white paper bag (but also wrapped inside with another sealed plastic bag). Wonderful!
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    Jun 17, 2016 6:13 AM GMT
    Let's not forget that lentils and legumes fall under the category of grains as well. Most people think healthy grains are just unprocessed whole wheat products. I think some good whole grain options are beans, lentils and quinoa. Oatmeal and barely also come to mind. I wouldn't load up too much on rice as this grain, that is grown in waterlogged fields, absorbs a lot of arsenic from the earth.
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    Jun 17, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
    Just what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 17, 2016 5:07 PM GMT
    S2Ki saidJust what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Just like we need political advice from a moron imbecile.
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    Jun 17, 2016 6:49 PM GMT
    Orville Redenbacher is whole grain non-gmo pop corn. And who the hell don't like pop corn?!?
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    Jun 17, 2016 8:53 PM GMT
    bon_pan saidOrville Redenbacher is whole grain non-gmo pop corn. And who the hell don't like pop corn?!?

    I only like it if it has lots of butter, and a good dose of salt.
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    S2Ki said
    Just what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Please quote where I said Ritz crackers are "good for you". I merely noted that the wheat ones taste virtually identical to the original. Which I never said are "good".

    Oh, and BTW, I'm not "fat". I've been steadily losing weight. Still a bit overweight from where I'd like, but not obese.
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    Jun 17, 2016 11:35 PM GMT
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    I wish that these whole grains would help you think more clearly in terms of this upcoming November election.icon_cool.gif

    Just be careful not to wash your own food down with the Trump Kool-Aid. Your higher brain functions shut down, and eventually your brain activity ceases altogether.
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    Jun 18, 2016 2:41 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    S2Ki said
    Just what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Please quote where I said Ritz crackers are "good for you". I merely noted that the wheat ones taste virtually identical to the original. Which I never said are "good".

    Oh, and BTW, I'm not "fat". I've been steadily losing weight. Still a bit overweight from where I'd like, but not obese.


    You introduced "whole wheat" Ritz crackers to a poster asking you for advice.....on a forum you created about eating "whole grains" to live longer. What is anybody supposed to infer from that?

    But congratulations on your weight loss. Good work - and keep it up! The next challenge will be keeping it off. Bad habits creep back or friends bring over food you shouldn't eat. Personally, I just throw it all away after they leave....tossed entire pints of premium ice cream, desserts and other junk food into the garbage disposal. I could eat that stuff as a 20 something, but I'm in my 50's and my junk food days are over.
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    Jun 19, 2016 11:51 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    S2Ki said
    Just what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Please quote where I said Ritz crackers are "good for you". I merely noted that the wheat ones taste virtually identical to the original. Which I never said are "good".

    Oh, and BTW, I'm not "fat". I've been steadily losing weight. Still a bit overweight from where I'd like, but not obese.

    He is a fat ass himself, and just projecting his insecurity. Just because S2Ki is using a fake picture, that doesn't mean he is fit.
    I still remember the fat face of his, which he changed later, just to use rhetoric like this.
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    Jun 19, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
    __morphic__ said
    Art_Deco said
    S2Ki said
    Just what we need.....dietary advice from a fat guy.....who says Ritz crackers are good you. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Please quote where I said Ritz crackers are "good for you". I merely noted that the wheat ones taste virtually identical to the original. Which I never said are "good".

    Oh, and BTW, I'm not "fat". I've been steadily losing weight. Still a bit overweight from where I'd like, but not obese.

    He is a fat ass himself, and just projecting his insecurity. Just because S2Ki is using a fake picture, that doesn't mean he is fit.
    I still remember the fat face of his, which he changed later, just to use rhetoric like this.


    I gather that semi hidden face pic must be you?

    I'll refrain from offering feedback, because you've suffered enough already.
  • pennihunter

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    Jul 07, 2016 5:53 AM GMT
    Thank you for sharing this useful post.