No Case Against Yom Kippur / Sometimes the Biblical Jesus Does Not Speak as if He Is Jewish

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    Jun 19, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
    “… what the authors of the New Testament thought. They thought, and explicitly said, on numerous occasions, that Christ died for sins, in order to bring atonement, reconciliation, redemption, salvation. For them, without Jesus’ death, sin would not be taken care of and people would be lost.”

    There were atonement offerings at the Temple. Once the Temple was destroyed, a void was filled–or an attempt at doing so occurred.

    Neither Paul nor John met an important prerequisite for claiming Jesus’ death was an atonement: both needed to first make a case against Yom Kippur.

    A Definition of the Jewish Holiday Yom Kippur:
    Yom Kippur is the holiest day of the year—the day on which we are closest to G‑d and to the quintessence of our own souls. It is the Day of Atonement.

    Those from AD 33-66 who claim Jesus’ death in AD 33 was some great atonement stopped going to the Temple for Yom Kippur? Jesus’ death filled no void until sacrifices ceased at the Temple.
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    Jun 19, 2016 5:50 PM GMT
    Someone who has a problem with the Gospel of John

    I truly doubt that Jesus made any of the long-winded speeches in John’s gospel. Jesus may have been many thing, but he certainly wasn’t a Greek philosopher. I know you don’t think Jesus was literate, so you surely don’t believe he made these pompous speeches.

    He also has Jesus talking to the Jews as if he wasn’t one himself.

    John’s gospel is a gift to anti-Semites, but other than that, I can’t see its value.

    Stephenoabc / Steefen, author of the Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy, First Edition

    Jesus is a composite figure. Some of those figures were Jewish, some were not.
    #1 Queen Helena and her son Izates converted to Judaism. Jesus had a holy mother, Mary. Queen Helena took more than a 7 year vow for holiness.

    Queen Helena and King Izates fed 5,000 multiple times with their famine relief.

    #2 Jesus also is not a Jew because he requested people remember him via the drinking of his blood during Holy Communion. To do this is to have God’s face turn away. See Leviticus 17:10. For Jesus to defy this verse in the Torah, shows he is not a Jew.

    Pharisees seemed to be against slavery.
    Jesus was against the Pharisees.
    Paul’s violation of the Mosaic Code on slavery:

    While in prison, Paul met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the property of a Christian — presumably Philemon. He sent the slave back to his owner. This action is forbidden in Deuteronomy 23:15-16:

    “Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee.”

    “He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him.”

    Rather than give the slave sanctuary, Paul returned him to his owner.

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    How did Christianity serve slaves or slave owners?