soulman1969 saidWow ElNathB, she sure sounds like she needs prayers. Hopefully your closeted nephew will find some kind of peace and self acceptance her cut her out of his life.
Her issues, her religion, her marriage, her kids, basically her life has been the "elephant in the living room" subject no family member or friend wants to touch. As long as nobody brings up these issues with her, she doesn't feel "attacked" I suppose. But she, her views and the Midwestern state we grew up in are the reasons why I got the fuck out of there and away from that mentality, some 15 years ago now. When I moved away, her boys were only 5 and 7 yrs old, I wasn't there to help counteract the religious dogma shes been feeding these kids.
She met her husband just after her stay in the mental hospital after high school, he "rescued" her, I don't know if it was an official "born again" thing with her, but he was seeing my sister while he was married to another women at the time. Of course republicans and religious people have their infidelities behind closed doors, while pointing fingers at everyone else hoping they will never get caught. Well he divorced his first wife then married my sister.
They were married about 2 years after I came out, when I did come out, her and I had a fist fight at moms house. I remember it well because she tore one of my favorite T-shirts, the purple one. She is about as tall as I am, a big girl with long arms like me, she weighed more than me at the time too, but my mom had to play go between.
Here is what I think about my nephews and their future. She loves them, but because she willfully let those boys lapse into early destruction, they will "need" her for many years to come. Instead of teaching them how to be independent, think and live for themselves, she has given them no hope of any future except for "stay close to mom, because I will take care of you". If one of these boys does come out, she will disown him into a spiral of early death, because her selfishness took away any hope of independence and freedom that comes with the coming out process. They both have criminal histories at a young age and without a high school diploma, where most that age are just starting out on their own, getting roommates, part time jobs or career..etc. If one boy does come out, how far do you think he is going to get on his own? I just see this situation heading for disaster and I have already warned my brother who wants to stay out of it.
She as a republican, complains about "free stuff" that "liberals" get, but does she realize she has turned her boys into those people who will require government assistance at some point in there adult lives? The prison system tax payers pay for? Rehab? My sister needs to stop hiding the elephant in the room because her boys, my nephews are looking at early deaths even if they haven't left the nest yet, they will never leave because she left them no choice but to stay.
Unless her plan is to take care of the boys for 40 years, I don't see the boys making it on their own, even if one does come out, he will be a street hustler.