10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

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    Jun 23, 2016 5:26 PM GMT
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-checkFact-checking some of the gun lobby's favorite arguments shows they're full of holes.

    By cutting off federal funding for research and stymieing data collection and sharing, the National Rifle Association has tried to do to the study of gun violence what climate deniers have done to the science of global warming. No wonder: When it comes to hard numbers, some of the gun lobby's favorite arguments are full of holes. (This article has been updated.)

    Myth #1: They're coming for your guns.

    Fact-check: With as many as 310 million privately owned guns in America, it's clear there's no practical way to round them all up
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    Myth #2: Guns don't kill people—people kill people.

    Fact-check: People with access to more guns tend to kill more people—with guns. States with higher gun ownership rates have higher gun murder rates—as much as 114 percent higher than states with lower gun ownership rates.
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    Myth #3: An armed society is a polite society.

    Fact-check: Various studies suggest that being armed increases your chances of getting into a confrontation.

    Myth #4: More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys.

    Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 33 years: 0

    Myth #5: Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.

    Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.

    Myth #6: Carrying a gun for self-defense makes you safer.

    Fact-check: In 2014, according to FBI data, nearly eight times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to stop a crime.

    Myth #7: Guns make women safer.

    Fact-check: In 2013, more than 5 times more women were shot by husbands, boyfriends, and ex-partners than murdered by male strangers.

    Myth #8: "Vicious, violent video games" deserve more blame than guns.

    Fact-check: So said NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre after the Newtown massacre. So what's up with Japan?
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    Myth #9: More and more Americans are becoming gun owners.

    Fact-check: More guns are being sold, but they're owned by a shrinking portion of the population.

    Myth #10: We don't need more gun laws—we just need to enforce the ones we have.

    Fact-check: Weak laws and loopholes backed by the gun lobby have made it easier for people to get guns illegally. And existing gun laws aren't preventing guns from getting into the wrong hands: More than 75 percent of the weapons used in mass shootings between 1982 and 2012 were obtained legally.


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    Jun 25, 2016 1:32 AM GMT
    I would just really, really want to know what might be the logic behind preventing the CDC from studying gun violence. I have tried completing the sentence, "We shouldn't study gun violence because..." but I just cannot come up with something that doesn't sound totally insane.
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    Jun 25, 2016 1:29 PM GMT
    themachine saidI would just really, really want to know what might be the logic behind preventing the CDC from studying gun violence. I have tried completing the sentence, "We shouldn't study gun violence because..." but I just cannot come up with something that doesn't sound totally insane.


    Welcome to the world of crazy where not just lying and deception but blatantly ignoring truth has become by so many to be acceptable.

    It would be like God giving a man legs but that man failing to ever walk to a new place. Or God giving a man arms and hands but that man failing to ever reach. Or God giving man voice but that man failing to ever speak or dare sing. Or God giving man a brain...

  • Jun 25, 2016 11:06 PM GMT
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    themachine saidI would just really, really want to know what might be the logic behind preventing the CDC from studying gun violence. I have tried completing the sentence, "We shouldn't study gun violence because..." but I just cannot come up with something that doesn't sound totally insane.


    ...
    It would be like God giving a man legs but that man failing to ever walk to a new place. Or God giving a man arms and hands but that man failing to ever reach. Or God giving man voice but that man failing to ever speak or dare sing. Or God giving man a brain...


    Isn't that called "Suburbia"?
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    Jun 26, 2016 3:32 AM GMT
    The reason is LOBBYING. The NRA pays the politicians to vote NO on any bill involving guns that doesnt say we are going to buy more. Then they write legislation and hand it with some cash to a republican and tell him to make it so, and he does and the other republicans vote what they wrote. What part of corruption do you not understand.
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    Jun 26, 2016 3:04 PM GMT
    thatotherotherguy said
    theantijock said
    themachine saidI would just really, really want to know what might be the logic behind preventing the CDC from studying gun violence. I have tried completing the sentence, "We shouldn't study gun violence because..." but I just cannot come up with something that doesn't sound totally insane.


    ...
    It would be like God giving a man legs but that man failing to ever walk to a new place. Or God giving a man arms and hands but that man failing to ever reach. Or God giving man voice but that man failing to ever speak or dare sing. Or God giving man a brain...


    Isn't that called "Suburbia"?


    I suppose in some cases, sure. In other cases it's called college campus, Pretty sure we didn't have childhood diabetes issues when I grew up in suburbia. We didn't have cell phones of course but of the pics I have of our group growing up? We're actually all in shape and many of my friends are still in decent shape 50 years later. So I think it is less about place and more about time.

    As to the refusal to use one's own brain? That seems less a matter of location and more a matter of politics.