Almost 75% Of LGBT People Still Feel The Need To Hide Their Sexuality

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    Jul 03, 2016 11:46 PM GMT
    https://www.facebook.com/LGBT.Palestine/

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    Pride in London has surveyed more than 1,000 LGBT+ people and asked them how they felt about discussing their private lives in public.

    Shockingly, 74% of them said they felt the need to hide their sexual orientation or their gender identity in certain situations.

    Pride in London, which organises London’s Pride event, also found that a large portion of the LGBT community “felt threatened by other people’s attitude’s and behaviours towards them.”

    77% of the survey have revealed their sexuality to their friends while only 50% have come out to colleagues.

    The survey also found that 77% of the respondents “felt uncomfortable” with being their true self in public, 41% of gay men would think twice about holding their partner’s hand in public and 10% of the survey has been bullied at work because of their gender.

    Michael Saltner-Church, the Chair of Pride in London, said: “Great progress has been made in the name of LGBT+ equality in recent years, but these figures show the striking reason why Pride is still as important as ever.”

    You can read the full study over at Pride in London.

    Pride in London is set to take place this weekend (June 25-26) in the capital.

  • bro4bro

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    Jul 04, 2016 1:00 AM GMT
    I don't see why any of this should be "shocking".

    The article begins with a statement that people were asked how they felt about discussing their private lives in public. Of course most people are uncomfortable discussing their private lives in public. That's why they're called private lives.

    It goes on to say that 74% of the respondents feel the need to hide their sexuality in "certain situations", without explicitly stating what those situations are. Yes, Sherlock, there are places in even the most accepting city on earth where it would be dangerous to reveal yourself as gay. Wake up and read the news.

    Finally, it states that only 50% are out to their coworkers. Not surprising to me in the least. At my company people rarely talk about their personal lives at work - partially because they're engineers and don't really have personal lives to speak of, and partially because it has nothing to do with work. I have no idea whether many of my coworkers are married or single, whether or not they have children, or whether the known single ones are dating anybody. In twenty years I've been asked only a handful of times if I'm married, and of those who know I'm single, no one has ever asked me if I'm dating anyone.

    If someone asked about my sexuality I'd tell them. But it hasn't happened yet, and I don't really see how it would ever come up.
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    Jul 04, 2016 1:55 AM GMT
    LOL Bro4bro.

    I was thinking about that too. It is nobody's business to know what is our sex orientation...
  • nice_chap

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    Jul 04, 2016 11:51 AM GMT
    thing is, we have laws that protect workers from being discriminated against in the work place for their sexuality, and homosexuals can't be banned from the army, because discriminating against a person's sexuality is seen as an invasion of privacy.

    Privacy is a human right as well, and it's kind of arrogant to expect every gay person to air their sexual life to the public.
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    Jul 04, 2016 3:41 PM GMT
    nice_chap saidthing is, we have laws that protect workers from being discriminated against in the work place for their sexuality, and homosexuals can't be banned from the army, because discriminating against a person's sexuality is seen as an invasion of privacy.

    Privacy is a human right as well, and it's kind of arrogent to expect every gay person to air their sexual life to the public.


    I'm not being critical of your response, just making sure that everyone's aware of the state of the law. There is no federal statute that expressly protects LGBTQ from workplace discrimination. In addition, while there are SOME state laws that are intended to protect L:GBTQ from workplace discrimination, many of these laws only apply to state-employed workers. This may be one of the reasons why some LGBTQ people do not advertise, or are discreet with, their sexual identity.
  • FitBlackCuddl...

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    Jul 04, 2016 5:01 PM GMT
    "Almost 75% Of LGBT People Still Feel The Need To Hide Their Sexuality"

    Am not surprised. Where is there advantage in doing so? When one thinks of "being gay", dignity and/or beauty of character do NOT come to mind. There is no sense of inclusiveness or social support...

    ...at least not unless you have GQ model looks/fit within some popular niche group, are preferably a "top" and possess an 8" penis.
  • JackNNJ

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    Jul 04, 2016 6:01 PM GMT
    "There is no sense of inclusiveness or social support..."

    WTF does that mean?
  • FitBlackCuddl...

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    Jul 04, 2016 7:05 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said"There is no sense of inclusiveness or social support..."

    WTF does that mean?


    You are using a computer and/or have access to a search engine--Google it.
  • TheGoodGuy

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    Jul 04, 2016 9:31 PM GMT
    What did you think? In genral gays have a very bad name. Most gays are only into sex and looking for guys with a 6pack, big cock and money 24/7. Gays that act like this have a low IQ and act like dogs on heat. Due to this they have a very bad name. What can I say......... If you act like trash, you will be seen as trash.
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    Jul 04, 2016 10:13 PM GMT
    I don't know.....a lot of gay men tend to be afraid of their own shadow. I live in the most accepting city in the country and still I meet gay guys that are terrified to come out of the closet. Sometimes people are afraid for no good reason. Just because someone is afraid of something, doesn't mean their reasoning is always sound.
  • nice_chap

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    Jul 04, 2016 10:34 PM GMT
    UMayNeverKnow said

    You and bro4bro are from the US; nice_chap is from England. In discussions like this it would do well for people to identify their "we" when discussing laws; e.g., we in the US, or we in England, etc.


    The article is relating to Pride in London, so I didn't feel the need to clarify, but yeah, sorry if any confusion was caused.

    Any way, not outing yourself to every single person you meet does not necessarily mean you're ashamed of your sexuality. It simply does not matter to everyone who you are sexually attracted to. Or should we start yelling "nice arse! show us your cock!" every time we pass a handsome man on the street, just to show how proud we are to be gay?
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    Jul 05, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
    in the way past i was married to my wife. I see no reason why i should treat my husband any different. I hold hands either way. I would be a fool to say i am not part of the 75% and looking over my shoulder. Nothing about yelling "nice arse! show us your cock!" just want to be the like a married couple i was in the past.
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    TheGoodGuy saidWhat did you think? In genral gays have a very bad name. Most gays are only into sex and looking for guys with a 6pack, big cock and money 24/7. Gays that act like this have a low IQ and act like dogs on heat. Due to this they have a very bad name. What can I say......... If you act like trash, you will be seen as trash.



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  • rdberg1957

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    Jul 05, 2016 2:53 AM GMT
    There is a difference between not having a need to discuss private matters in public and being fearful about talking about private matters in public because of repercussions. Let's not be ahistorical, let's remember history. Gay and lesbian people have been legislated against to the point where it was illegal for two or more homosexuals to be seen in public (New York City) until 1969. In the 1920's in Chicago, police raided a gathering of homosexuals conducted in a private residence (apartment).
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    Jul 05, 2016 3:55 AM GMT
    This:

    bro4bro said
    I don't see why any of this should be "shocking".

    The article begins with a statement that people were asked how they felt about discussing their private lives in public. Of course most people are uncomfortable discussing their private lives in public. That's why they're called private lives.

    It goes on to say that 74% of the respondents feel the need to hide their sexuality in "certain situations", without explicitly stating what those situations are. Yes, Sherlock, there are places in even the most accepting city on earth where it would be dangerous to reveal yourself as gay. Wake up and read the news.

    Finally, it states that only 50% are out to their coworkers. Not surprising to me in the least. At my company people rarely talk about their personal lives at work - partially because they're engineers and don't really have personal lives to speak of, and partially because it has nothing to do with work.

    Hey, watch it. Engineers are people, too. icon_smile.gif
    Engineers' personal lives matter!
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    Jul 05, 2016 10:28 AM GMT
    No shit, maybe its because having pride parades and gay stereotypes all over the place doesn't rationalize why homosexuality exists to people who aren't homosexual, whom also have a perfectly acceptable feeling of discomfort pertaining to the topic; It's okay for gay men to say pussy and straight sex is disgusting, but if a straight guy says gay sex is gross he's a homophobe, and gay people go nuts instead of acting compassionately and attempt to teach.

    P.S. straight people may go to pride and appear to have "fun" and say they "accept" homosexuality, but you don't even know if it's the truth because of how quickly many gay rights supporters bash others who may be uncomfortable with the idea of homosexuality, which is partly our doing and fault for not being as understanding reformative. Trust me, the people who really are the most intolerant of homosexuality don't go to pride, and tactfully choose not to reveal their true colors because of how psycho and mob like gay rights activists can be.

    I myself am attracted to the idea of men having sex, and I am disgusted by the shit I see at pride, and how it is promoted. I see a bunch of people pretending that it's for a great cause when in reality it is mainly used as a hedonism fest for those who already understand homosexuality, though it masquerades as a political effort to appear integral and noble. There are integral components of many gay events including Pride, though the selling of dicks and ass is what is always focused on instead of finding new ways to integrate different cultures, and we all know that masculine, conventional, homosexual men are the real men integrating people, because flaming homosexuals sure as fuck are not going to help convert narrow minded bigots to accepting man on man action and protect these gay men from being brutally murdered by those who are experiencing too much paradoxical contrast for one ignorant mind to be able to process healthily, which we all witnessed last month by an Islamic raised American.
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    Jul 05, 2016 9:54 PM GMT
    I think to be closeted in the US today is an act of cowardice if you aren't some kid with asshole parents. I don't think to be out means you have to talk to everyone you meet about your sex life but we all know the difference between hiding and being out. With all the momentum and change of attitude in the last few years, to be scared to tell someone means one thing, that you're just scared. Of what? They won't like you? Well, then they don't like you now. Job issues? Fair enough but very few jobs require you talk about such things. And there are other jobs. Any other reason is just faking your own cowardice. Pride? Oh, please. What a childish excuse. Because all those gays are so bad? A lie and like hiding behind a skirt.
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    Jul 06, 2016 1:37 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Destinharbor said[/cite]I think to be closeted in the US today is an act of cowardice if you aren't some kid with asshole parents. I don't think to be out means you have to talk to everyone you meet about your sex life but we all know the difference between hiding and being out. With all the momentum and change of attitude in the last few years, to be scared to tell someone means one thing, that you're just scared. Of what? They won't like you? Well, then they don't like you now. Job issues? Fair enough but very few jobs require you talk about such things. And there are other jobs. Any other reason is just faking your own cowardice. Pride? Oh, please. What a childish excuse. Because all those gays are so bad? A lie and like hiding behind a


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    Jul 06, 2016 5:14 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidI think to be closeted in the US today is an act of cowardice if you aren't some kid with asshole parents. I don't think to be out means you have to talk to everyone you meet about your sex life but we all know the difference between hiding and being out. With all the momentum and change of attitude in the last few years, to be scared to tell someone means one thing, that you're just scared. Of what? They won't like you? Well, then they don't like you now. Job issues? Fair enough but very few jobs require you talk about such things. And there are other jobs. Any other reason is just faking your own cowardice. Pride? Oh, please. What a childish excuse. Because all those gays are so bad? A lie and like hiding behind a skirt.


    Except I read the survey results not as saying that gay people are completely closeted, but rather that they don't share their orientation in certain situations, such as work. And that makes sense ... I don't really know what any of my colleagues do sexually and it is not germane to what we do at work. The idea that unless you're flaunting your sexuality at all times you are a coward is misguided.
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    Jul 07, 2016 11:33 PM GMT
    swimmersf said... And that makes sense ... I don't really know what any of my colleagues do sexually and it is not germane to what we do at work...

    get out of the closet boy
    we are married and my husband has a photo of me on his desk at work. I drop off and pick him up from work every day. Gasp!!, as a couple we associate with co workers sometimes on a Friday.
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    swimmersf said... And that makes sense ... I don't really know what any of my colleagues do sexually and it is not germane to what we do at work...

    get out of the closet boy
    we are married and my husband has a photo of me on his desk at work. I drop off and pick him up from work every day. Gasp!!, as a couple we associate with co workers sometimes on a Friday.


    That sounds nice ... what you do for a living?