The Dallas police used a ‘bomb robot’ to kill a shooting suspect. That’s a really big deal.

  • metta

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    Jul 08, 2016 7:35 PM GMT
    The Dallas police used a ‘bomb robot’ to kill a shooting suspect. That’s a really big deal.

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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 09, 2016 6:03 PM GMT
    I thought it was a good deal. Bring on the robot bombs and takeout the cop killers!
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    Jul 09, 2016 6:18 PM GMT
    I don't know how I feel about this. On the one hand, Had the cops their own sniper with a shot, surely they'd have taken him out. So in that sense, why put a kill directly onto someone's conscience even in the line of saving lives. Killing is still killing. On the other hand, even if killing is killing, ya gotta stop this guy. About that there's no question.

    On a third other hand, a bomb sure does shut him up. Not that he wasn't just a crazy anyway, duh, but wouldn't him having survived capture given voice to protest. For even as crazy as he was, he'd have been quoted in the press dragging on that conversation with him into jail or through an execution, wherever and for however long that would lead. On the fourth hand, if he was indeed crazy--and how could he not be, this was nutz--then where is compassion (though safety of others first, of course) for the crazy person?

    Sometimes a bomb is just a bomb. What a fucking nightmare.
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    Jul 09, 2016 7:28 PM GMT
    I have seen this 'robot' up close at my ex employer, it was probably my ex employers idea to use their technology
    I am not supposed to tell (yet),

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    Jul 09, 2016 8:47 PM GMT
    If you are going to give ordinary civilians easy access to combat weapons, you need a combat solution when they decide to use said weapons to commit a crime or go off on an insane shooting spree or otherwise vent their frustrations.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 10, 2016 3:34 PM GMT
    The worst thing about the robot bomb blowing up the shooter is that it so blew the guy to smithereens that police may not be able to get an accurate blood sample to prove if the shooter was high on the crystal meth they found in his apartment
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    Jul 10, 2016 4:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    The worst thing about the robot bomb blowing up the shooter is that it so blew the guy to smithereens that police may not be able to get an accurate blood sample to prove if the shooter was high on the crystal meth they found in his apartment

    I strongly expect enough biological forensic evidence will remain to make blood work possible. This was a relatively small explosive device delivered on a robot arm extension, not a truck bomb. You've been watching too many Rambo movies and their offshoots.
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    Jul 10, 2016 4:45 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThe worst thing about the robot bomb blowing up the shooter is that it so blew the guy to smithereens that police may not be able to get an accurate blood sample to prove if the shooter was high on the crystal meth they found in his apartment


    Yes, of course, much worse than the job of those who will have to clean up the mess. You seem to have no concern for the psychological effect upon them. No matter, probably just immigrants who dug under a wall to get that job.

    Or maybe the parents of the mentally ill shooter might have liked a body to bury. No matter, as long as your bloodlust was satisfied.
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    Jul 10, 2016 4:49 PM GMT
    metta said
    The Dallas police used a ‘bomb robot’ to kill a shooting suspect. That’s a really big deal.

    I'm not sure why it was a "big deal". The guy was allegedly given an opportunity to surrender, and kept shooting.

    In other situations a police sniper might have taken him out, if they had a clear shot at him. How is a robot bomb legally different?

    The guy had his chance to surrender, and he chose poorly. He made the decision to confront & defy deadly force directed against him, and he lost, in accordance with law. I consider this case closed regarding his death.

    Now, as to whether robot-controlled bombs should be used in other situations, that depends on the circumstances. Same as the rules when you deploy a deadly police sniper. If you can use the one, you can use the other, in my view.

    My main concern would be the safety of other people inside the same structure. A bomb, unlike a sniper's bullet, is rather indiscriminate.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 10, 2016 8:56 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    The worst thing about the robot bomb blowing up the shooter is that it so blew the guy to smithereens that police may not be able to get an accurate blood sample to prove if the shooter was high on the crystal meth they found in his apartment

    I strongly expect enough biological forensic evidence will remain to make blood work possible. This was a relatively small explosive device delivered on a robot arm extension, not a truck bomb. You've been watching too many Rambo movies and their offshoots.


    No, actually I heard it on CNN so, granted, the chances of it being true are probably 50/50
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 10, 2016 9:00 PM GMT
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    Yes, of course, much worse than the job of those who will have to clean up the mess. You seem to have no concern for the psychological effect upon them.

    Or maybe the parents of the mentally ill shooter might have liked a body to bury. No matter, as long as your bloodlust was satisfied.


    You're really off your rocker! Of course I feel bad for the people who had to clean up the mess, and the parents who came to learn their son was a cop killer. That being said, the police did what they had to do to stop the shooter.
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    Jul 10, 2016 9:17 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Art_Deco said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    The worst thing about the robot bomb blowing up the shooter is that it so blew the guy to smithereens that police may not be able to get an accurate blood sample to prove if the shooter was high on the crystal meth they found in his apartment

    I strongly expect enough biological forensic evidence will remain to make blood work possible. This was a relatively small explosive device delivered on a robot arm extension, not a truck bomb. You've been watching too many Rambo movies and their offshoots.

    No, actually I heard it on CNN so, granted, the chances of it being true are probably 50/50

    Media reporters, commentators & pundits are often pulling this info outta their asses. A healthy dose of skepticism, with some individual research, is always the best response to them. And if the source is the falsely named Fox "News" you can automatically assume it's all just a load of Right Wing propaganda BS.

    For more reliable & accurate reporting I usually go to the BBC. Just like I did when I lived in Europe. Not constrained by advertising-driven ratings, they are more inclined to reveal the entire, unedited picture.
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    Jul 10, 2016 9:20 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
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    Yes, of course, much worse than the job of those who will have to clean up the mess. You seem to have no concern for the psychological effect upon them.

    Or maybe the parents of the mentally ill shooter might have liked a body to bury. No matter, as long as your bloodlust was satisfied.


    You're really off your rocker! Of course I feel bad for the people who had to clean up the mess, and the parents who came to learn their son was a cop killer. That being said, the police did what they had to do to stop the shooter.


    I never said the cops didn't do what they had to do. But you really are a piece of shit. Fuck you.
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    Jul 10, 2016 9:22 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    I never said the cops didn't do what they had to do. But you really are a piece of shit. Fuck you.


    Thank you! Now run along and try and have a nice day icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 10, 2016 9:31 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    theantijock said
    I never said the cops didn't do what they had to do. But you really are a piece of shit. Fuck you.


    Thank you! Now run along and try and have a nice day icon_wink.gif


    If you really did feel for others, you'd have incorporated that into the expressions of your initial thinking and not just used that as some manipulative afterthought to try and make your nonsense look palatable. So after you pull your head out of your ass, you have a nice day too.
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    Jul 10, 2016 10:38 PM GMT
    These off centre leftist, are dangerous nutters.