Philadelphia Archbishop's New Rulings

  • Cutlass

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    Jul 10, 2016 10:33 AM GMT
    Is there no end to the R.C. church's bizarre rulings that stem from Catholic teachings? It's the usual double talking, forked tongue, talking out of both sides of the mouth rantings that we have become accustomed to. Although this has no application to us, the archbishop of Philadelphia, Charles Chaput, said that divorced Catholics who remarried in civil ceremonies cannot receive communion unless they abstain from sex and "live as brother and sister." A classic example of the church's anti-sex attitude. But the kicker here that applies to us is that Chaput said that those who have same sex attraction can "live out a heterosexual marriage with children" despite the same sex attraction. Am I reading this right? If so, the church's leaders need to take instruction on the reality of sexual mores, something they seem to be blithely ignorant about.
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    Jul 10, 2016 7:15 PM GMT
    It's somewhere in the bible. If your spouse dies, let alone divorce, you're not allowed to marry or have sex with another. It just shows what happens when people worship by a book that was written thousands of years ago.
  • Import

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    Jul 10, 2016 9:25 PM GMT
    We need #BlackLivesMatter up on this Charles Chaput bitch.
    That motherfucker is a dipshit.
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:41 AM GMT
    UMayNeverKnow said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidIt's somewhere in the bible. If your spouse dies, let alone divorce, you're not allowed to marry or have sex with another. It just shows what happens when people worship by a book that was written thousands of years ago.


    Actually the Old Testament law says that if your brother dies before having had children you have to marry his widow and have his children in his stead.


    Yes, and the Old Testament was written before child pollution has inundated the planet with over 7 billion people, at least half of whom are not good for the survival of Earth (the human contribution to global warming). They needed people then. We don't today.
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    Jul 11, 2016 3:42 PM GMT
    the bible, a 3500 year old text, has suffered from lack of modern revision control.
  • ASHDOD

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    Jul 11, 2016 5:30 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidIt's somewhere in the bible. If your spouse dies, let alone divorce, you're not allowed to marry or have sex with another. It just shows what happens when people worship by a book that was written thousands of years ago.
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    check your facts before you write, divorce is aloud in Judaism [but not in Catholicism]
  • buddycat

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    Jul 12, 2016 8:51 AM GMT
    Who cares. I don't think many self-respecting gay men are lining up to attend a Catholic Church especially with Episcopal Churches allowing same-sex marriage.
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    Jul 12, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
    Ashdod said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidIt's somewhere in the bible. If your spouse dies, let alone divorce, you're not allowed to marry or have sex with another. It just shows what happens when people worship by a book that was written thousands of years ago.
    ,check your facts before you write, divorce is aloud in Judaism [but not in Catholicism]


    who cares both Catholics and Judaism are dead to most self respecting gay men.
  • Cutlass

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    Jul 13, 2016 11:37 AM GMT
    UMayNeverKnow said
    buddycat saidWho cares. I don't think many self-respecting gay men are lining up to attend a Catholic Church especially with Episcopal Churches allowing same-sex marriage.


    No self respecting gay man is going to forego Sunday brunch to attend any church.


    I will forgo Sunday brunch at any church since I don't go to church. Obviously you have no idea what a self-respecting gay man will do. Sunday brunch indeed!
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    Jul 16, 2016 2:36 PM GMT
    pellaz said
    who cares both Catholics and Judaism are dead to most self respecting gay men.

    I'm not sure about Judaism being dead to gay men. It has many faces. And certainly doesn't have to be dead to any gay men who were raised as Jews, it being their heritage.

    I've attended Jewish services. My husband (raised Catholic as I was) has sung the Kol Nidre on the Day of Atonement as a guest singer. We attend the Seder at the homes of Jewish gay friends at Passover (Pesach).

    I always find these services wonderfully uplifting. No, I don't believe in the theology. But I do honor & respect the remembrance of the Jewish past that these services also represent. And I just find them so beautiful & moving.

    And most US Jews (except the ultra-orthodox) have mostly done what US Christians don't do with the Old Testament (as Christians call it): realize it's a story & history of a people, sometimes violent & aggressive, not a verbatim set of mandates to be followed literally on every point. Listening to Jewish services, the people who actually wrote these things, can free people from the unforgiving shackles of the Christian Bible.