Since GAY, now means Stupid, or lame.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 5:06 AM GMT
    Does this mean the Gay community has to come up with a new banner, label to stand under?

    What new label can you use?

    I already have the label of fag reserved for my secion of the homosexual community. So thats already taken.

    What new label can you useicon_question.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 5:18 AM GMT
    Hamster.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 5:58 AM GMT
    Sedative saidHamster.


    You want to be called Hamster. OK. I won't be standing under the banner, no-matter what it is called. Hmm the Hamster community.

    You will find me under the banner of fag.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 6:18 AM GMT
    "laim" or "lame"? icon_cool.gif

    I sort of think those "That's so GAY!" commercials go some of the way to helping the situation. Personally, I'm not offended by someone exclaiming that, and actually I'd rather respond to this with "you say that like it's a bad thing" and watch them get a bit uncomfortable...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 6:20 AM GMT
    Why change it. It will just repeat and become the same thing. Change the hate not the word.

    I don't think laim means what you think it does.

    1. LAIM
    an abbreviation for Leave An Instant Message
    auto away message: I am out to dinner- laim

    2. laim

    A word used to refer to crazy eyed hillbilly shits that love their donkey too much. Also a derogatory term for someone called liam.
    Shut the fuck up laim you crazy-eyed baghead
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 6:26 AM GMT
    Unfortunately the "That's so Gay" commercials only work in areas where they are aired. And well, living in an area such as New England, where the majority of the region does not receive networks like LOGO, and HERE! we never see those adds.

    It only works when people see it....It has been allowed to become part of a culture because we as a community allowed it. That means even we must change, call out our friends, or ANYONE we see using it.
  • OptimusMatt

    Posts: 1124

    Feb 11, 2009 6:56 AM GMT
    Call me otter.

    icon_razz.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 6:56 AM GMT
    seanp7 said"laim" or "lame"? icon_cool.gif

    I sort of think those "That's so GAY!" commercials go some of the way to helping the situation. Personally, I'm not offended by someone exclaiming that, and actually I'd rather respond to this with "you say that like it's a bad thing" and watch them get a bit uncomfortable...


    I stand corrected it is lame.

    I must admit. I too take the same attitude.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:00 AM GMT


    Maybe call it Lame? the Lame community , the LLBT ...

    This way when someone says "This is gay" it means lame , which means gay now ...

    Solved!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:05 AM GMT
    Patti...let me be constructive, first with your challenged spelling: this is a link for Firefox, a browser with an awesome spell-checking plug-in. When you're writing posts it'll underline a questionable word in red and allow you to right-click to change to the correct word. Sorry if it sounds petty, but I'll bet you want to be taken seriously when you post, and you've been an offender for months now.

    On your request, how about Seraphim?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:06 AM GMT
    growingbig saidWhy change it. It will just repeat and become the same thing. Change the hate not the word.

    I don't think laim means what you think it does.

    1. LAIM
    an abbreviation for Leave An Instant Message
    auto away message: I am out to dinner- laim

    2. laim

    A word used to refer to crazy eyed hillbilly shits that love their donkey too much. Also a derogatory term for someone called liam.
    Shut the fuck up laim you crazy-eyed baghead
    icon_lol.gif

    I've already said: I stand corrected. In fact lame or laim are word I never use. But thanks for the correction anyway. maybe one day I'll be perfect; maybe.

    Oh the only reasion One started this topic, is One was corrected by a gay youth here, for saying Gay now means homosexual, as where it once meant something bright, and joyous.

    I was informed it now means stupid and lame to today's youth. I've taken this on. So I've asked: what is going to now replace it. Here in Oz poof, or poofter also means homosexual. This could be used?

    It may surprise some, but I'm truly light hearted about labels. As much as I hate em, I understand, how we need em too.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:14 AM GMT
    This is totally gay.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:16 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidPatti...let me be constructive, first with your challenged spelling: this is a link for Firefox, a browser with an awesome spell-checking plug-in. When you're writing posts it'll underline a questionable word in red and allow you to right-click to change to the correct word. Sorry if it sounds petty, but I'll bet you want to be taken seriously when you post, and you've been an offender for months now.

    On your request, how about Seraphim?


    Thanks for the advice. But then I'll have the grammar Nazis on my back, because I speak Australian English, and not American English. But the whole world dose not speak American English, but Americans expect every-one to do so, so they can understand it, look at Hollywood. But it's Americans who need to become more educated about things outside of the USA, and not expect the world to cater to them.

    Sorry off track. But the problem will still exist while most Americans only understand American English, gosh you would think they invented it, when it fact, it was the Germans.

    Oh even American spelling is diffrent to the Queens English?

    It would also help if one edited what I wrote, before I pushed submit. It's after latter, I read what I wrote, and see my mistakes.

    Oh I have a mate who writes for a major Australian News Paper. Some-one is paid to prof read his stuff, and you should see his spelling.

    Sorry back to the Topic on hand, and he did not even offer a new label for the homosexual community.
  • dionysus

    Posts: 420

    Feb 11, 2009 7:19 AM GMT
    wagen22302 saidThis is totally gay.


    that made me laugh. therefore, it has to be posted in italics.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:38 AM GMT
    Pattison said
    growingbig saidWhy change it. It will just repeat and become the same thing. Change the hate not the word.

    I don't think laim means what you think it does.

    1. LAIM
    an abbreviation for Leave An Instant Message
    auto away message: I am out to dinner- laim

    2. laim

    A word used to refer to crazy eyed hillbilly shits that love their donkey too much. Also a derogatory term for someone called liam.
    Shut the fuck up laim you crazy-eyed baghead
    icon_lol.gif

    I've already said: I stand corrected. In fact lame or laim are word I never use. But thanks for the correction anyway. maybe one day I'll be perfect; maybe.

    Oh the only reasion One started this topic, is One was corrected by a gay youth here, for saying Gay now means homosexual, as where it once meant something bright, and joyous.

    I was informed it now means stupid and lame to today's youth. I've taken this on. So I've asked: what is going to now replace it. Here in Oz poof, or poofter also means homosexual. This could be used?

    It may surprise some, but I'm truly light hearted about labels. As much as I hate em, I understand, how we need em too.


    I was just teasing and knew what you ment. icon_wink.gif

    Well I have to admit I have wondered who started calling gay's gay. It would not shock me if it was the hetros and we adopted it.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:43 AM GMT
    Pattison said...But the hole world dose not speak American English...
    All of my Australian friends agree that "hole world dose" will not trigger a spell-checker, but that you intended to write "whole world does." It's the same in Sydney as it is in the Village. I like you, but I think you defending your spelling gaffes as an artifact of your nationality is disingenuous.

    Anyway, it's interesting to me that most names for homosexuals start as derogatory. Poofs, sissies, fags, queers... A group almost never gets to name itself, and whenever it tries to, the term is often turned to be a negative anyway (by outsiders).

    It may be useful to take an already negative term and OWN it, like many have done with queer.

    An evocative word is "rake."
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:48 AM GMT
    Over time it will phase out as people see how awful it actually is.

    My mom told me that when she was a teenager they had a colour called (N word) brown.. She use to wear (N word) brown dress pants..

    That is no longer the case as that word is not acceptable.. I'm sure something similar will happen with people using the word gay out of context..

    But.... Gay did use to mean happy. listen to old songs from the war era or old movies and the word is used with no ties to homosexulaity.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:55 AM GMT
    heterosexually challenged?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 7:57 AM GMT
    MeOhMy saidheterosexually challenged?


    Hahahaicon_biggrin.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 8:23 AM GMT
    Pattison saidDoes this mean the Gay community has to come up with a new banner, label to stand under?

    What new label can you use?

    I already have the label of fag reserved for my secion of the homosexual community. So thats already taken.

    What new label can you useicon_question.gif


    Did you just get that memo all the way down there, because kids have been using gay to mean stupid or lame for the last 2 decades....

    But the label of Fag will be solely reserved for neurotic, uneducated, supremacist Australians, who claim to have descended from royalty with multiple husbands and make no grammatical sense...

    But what label for me....how about G0Y is that taken? icon_confused.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 8:30 AM GMT
    Pattison said
    Thanks for the advice. But then I'll have the grammar Nazis on my back, because I speak Australian English, and not American English. But the hole world dose not speak American English, but Americans expect every-one to do so, so they can't understand it, look at Hollywood. But it's Americans who need to become more educated about things outside of the USA, and not expect the world to cater to them.

    Sorry off track. But the problem will still exist while most Americans only understand American English, gosh you would think they invented it, when it fact, it was the Germans.

    Oh even American spelling is diffrent to the Queens English?


    Pardon me for saying this, but if the grammar Nazis get on your back, it's not because you speak Australian English. If what you posted here is typical, the problems have nothing to do with your being from Australia.

    We all make mistakes from time to time, and many people here make mistakes frequently, but some of what you wrote above simply doesn't make sense. (Your post also has a bunch of spelling errors that would be errors in any English-speaking country, not just the United States.)

    It reads like you wrote it in a great rush and couldn't be bothered to look through it a couple of times before pressing "SUBMIT." If you want people to understand your thoughts and feelings (and I think you must or you wouldn't bother posting), you may want to take the time to read through what you've written several times and try to make it as clear as possible before pressing "SUBMIT."

    Pattison said

    Oh the only reasion One started this topic, is One was corrected by a gay youth here, for saying Gay now means homosexual, as where it once meant something bright, and joyous.



    Are you "One"? If so, this is a case where "I" would have been much clearer.

    I'm sorry. I really should shut up, but some of your posts are difficult to understand.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 8:44 AM GMT
    Pattison saidDoes this mean the Gay community has to come up with a new banner, label to stand under?

    What new label can you use?


    normal
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 9:02 AM GMT
    Sean_85 saidOver time it will phase out as people see how awful it actually is.

    My mom told me that when she was a teenager they had a colour called (N word) brown.. She use to wear (N word) brown dress pants..

    That is no longer the case as that word is not acceptable.. I'm sure something similar will happen with people using the word gay out of context..

    But.... Gay did use to mean happy. listen to old songs from the war era or old movies and the word is used with no ties to homosexulaity.



    I do feel old when someone is concerned that people won't believe him when he says that gay used to mean happy. icon_wink.gif

    During the "war era" (I'm guessing you mean World War II), the word was already fairly widely used as a synonym for homosexual, though the general public probably didn't become aware of that meaning till the 1960s.

    One famous example is in the great 1938 screwball comedy, Bringing Up Baby, with Cary Grant, Katherine Hepburn and May Robson (in this scene):



    Grant may have improvised the line as it's not in the shooting script. On the film's initial release, most contemporary viewers probably didn't get the double meaning, but we can be pretty sure Grant did.

    This may also be of interest: a usage note from the American Heritage Dictionary (which I copied from www.dictionary.com):

    OED gives 1951 as earliest date for slang meaning "homosexual" (adj.), but this is certainly too late; gey cat "homosexual boy" is attested in N. Erskine's 1933 dictionary of "Underworld & Prison Slang;" the term gey cat (gey is a Scot. variant of gay) was used as far back as 1893 in Amer.Eng. for "young hobo," one who is new on the road and usually in the company of an older tramp, with catamite connotations. But Josiah Flynt ["Tramping With Tramps," 1905] defines gay cat as, "An amateur tramp who works when his begging courage fails him." Gey cats also were said to be tramps who offered sexual services to women. The "Dictionary of American Slang" reports that gay (adj.) was used by homosexuals, among themselves, in this sense since at least 1920. Rawson ["Wicked Words"] notes a male prostitute using gay in reference to male homosexuals (but also to female prostitutes) in London's notorious Cleveland Street Scandal of 1889. Ayto ["20th Century Words"] calls attention to the ambiguous use of the word in the 1868 song "The Gay Young Clerk in the Dry Goods Store," by U.S. female impersonator Will S. Hays. The word gay in the 1890s had an overall tinge of promiscuity -- a gay house was a brothel. The suggestion of immorality in the word can be traced back to 1637. Gay as a noun meaning "a (usually male) homosexual" is attested from 1971.

    ______________


    That final sentence is a bit strange since by 1971 the word was very commonly used as slang for homosexual. It had been used in print many times before then, including in the tremendously popular play The Boys in the Band from 1968.

    Sorry for being so pedantic, but that's my curse. Well, one of my curses.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 10:54 AM GMT

    Dinger - (pronounced "ding-gers") for general use as in "What a dinger!";

    Sed - for "closeted gay" as in "He's such a very Sed, Sed case."; and

    ZiM - for "scandalously gay" as in "Yikes, I don't wanna be next to such a ZiM!"

    icon_lol.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 11, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
    I don't use the word "gay" to mean lame or stupid.
    Grew out of that one in middle school... and grew way out of it when I accepted being gay as NOT being lame or stupid.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it.