The Hilariously Prohibited Items At The RNC Convention- Expect GOP Convention Violence

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    Jul 16, 2016 7:51 AM GMT
    Some of these are funny, you mean brass knuckles wont be allowed? icon_lol.gif

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    https://localtvwjw.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/rnc-official-event-zone-permit-regulations-1.pdf


    Section_III. Prohibited Items
    (a) Definitions. As used in this section:
    (1) The terms “Convention Period,” ”Event Zone,” “Public Grounds,” “Secure Zone,” “Sidewalk,” and “Street” shall have the same meaning as Section II of these Regulations; and
    (2) ”Public Access Areas” shall mean any space in the Event Zone, excluding spaces designated as the Secure Zone, that is open to access by the general public, including Streets, Sidewalks and Public Grounds.
    (b) Within all Public Access Areas, the following items are prohibited during the Convention Period:
    (1) Lumber larger than 2” in width and ¼” thick, including supports for signs;
    (2) Metal, plastic, or other hard material larger than ¾” thick and 1/8” in wall thickness including pipe and tubing;
    (3) Any air rifle, air pistol, paintball gun, blasting caps, switchblade or automatic knife, knife having a blade two and one-half (2-1/2) inches in length or longer, cestus, billy, blackjack, sword, saber, hatchet, axe, slingshot, BB gun, pellet gun, wrist shot, blackjack, metal knuckles, nun chucks, mace,
    iron buckle, axe handle, shovel, or other instrumentality used to cause property or personal damage;
    (4) Any dangerous ordinance, weapon, or firearm that is prohibited by the laws of the State of Ohio;
    (5) Any explosives, explosive device, or incendiary device;
    (6) Fireworks and rockets;
    (7) Sound Amplification Equipment;
    (icon_cool.gif Drones and other unmanned aircraft systems;
    (9) Containers of bodily fluids;
    (10) Aerosol cans;
    (11) Mace, Pepper Spray or other chemical irritant;
    (12) Umbrellas with metal tips;
    (13) Any projectile launchers, such as water guns and water cannons;
    (14) Rope, chain, cable, strapping, wire, string, line, tape, or any similar material, in lengths greater than 6’;
    (15) Glass bottles, ornaments, light bulbs, ceramic vessels, and any other frangible container, regardless of whether the container holds any substance;
    (16) Locks including, without limitation, padlocks, bicycle locking devices, chain locks or similar devices, but not including: (i) an integral component of a conveyance or structure; (ii) locks when utilized by the owner of private real property to secure permanent or temporary fencing; or (iii) locks attached to a bicycle;
    (17) Any gas mask or similar device designed to filter all air breathed by the wearer in an attempt to protect the respiratory tract and/or face against irritating or noxious gasses or other materials. This prohibition on gas masks shall not apply to any person wearing a medical oxygen mask that
    fits over the nose and mouth of the person and provides oxygen from an oxygen tank to the person;
    (1icon_cool.gif Tents and other shelters, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, mattresses, cots, hammocks, bivy sacks, or stoves;
    (19) Coolers or ice chests;
    (20) Backpacks and bags exceeding the size of 18” x 13” x 7”;
    (21) Lasers;
    (22) Non-plastic containers, bottles, cans, or thermoses;
    (23) Ladders;
    (24) Grappling hooks, sledgehammers, hammers, and crowbars;
    (25) Canned goods;
    (26) Tennis balls; and
    (27) Any other item determined by the Chief or Director to be a clear and present danger to the safety of others.
    (c) The prohibitions of this section shall not be applicable to:
    (1) Persons possessing an item listed above when (i) the person or his/her employer maintains a place of employment within the Event Zone; and (ii) the possession of said item is in the normal course of the person’s licensed business or employment and to be used within place of employment; and
    (2) Persons possessing an item listed above when (i) the person resides within the Event Zone; and (ii) the possession of said item kept and used within the person’s residence;
    (3) Law enforcement personnel or other local, state, or federal government employees possessing a prohibited item in the course of their authorized duties; and
    (4) Any licensed medical professional in the performance of their medical duties.
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    Jul 16, 2016 11:23 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    (24) Grappling hooks, sledgehammers, hammers, and crowbars


    Lest they be used to prize the truth out of Donald Trump.
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    Jul 16, 2016 1:59 PM GMT
    Number 9 is interesting:

    (9) Containers of bodily fluids;

    Does that include collection bags a person wears for medical reasons? Perhaps the wearer could apply for a special written exemption they would wear on their delegate neck ID. How dignified.
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    Jul 16, 2016 4:31 PM GMT
    I'd have to bet some enterprising guys (comedy writers) sat down w/a bottle of Jack and a case of beer and had a laugh riot coming up with this list.

    Ah shit they didn't say brick bat but a blackjack is the same thing.
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    Jul 16, 2016 4:38 PM GMT
    I just skimmed that quickly but does that mean they can open carry just not paintball? Why, is blood easier to wash off?

    They should let them have the paintball guns. That would make a great youtube.

    (oh, & will the Log Cabin contingent be showing up with banana cream pies? Or haven't they the balls.)
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    Jul 16, 2016 5:01 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    ELNathB said
    (24) Grappling hooks, sledgehammers, hammers, and crowbars


    Lest they be used to prize the truth out of Donald Trump.



    (14) Rope, chain, cable, strapping, wire, string, line, tape, or any similar material, in lengths greater than 6’;


    I guess no equipment for playing Batman icon_lol.gif, this is very specific, that these items cant be over 6 ft long, what about under 6 ft long? icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 16, 2016 5:33 PM GMT
    Interesting list. In the name of equal time here is the dnc list.
    I don't really care what's on the list - Hillary will flood us with un-vetted refugees and we will all pay.

    She will never suffer any consequences and will merely jet off to whatever mansion she chooses after she leaves office.
    The 1% (this includes her) will be above all of the day to day nightmares her administration will cause.

    They GOP can ban whatever. I don't care.

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    Jul 16, 2016 6:21 PM GMT
    Kev1962 saidI'd have to bet some enterprising guys (comedy writers) sat down w/a bottle of Jack and a case of beer and had a laugh riot coming up with this list.

    Ah shit they didn't say brick bat but a blackjack is the same thing.




    I still had to look up a blackjack (other than the Vegas card game), I am not too familiar with weapons,
    I suppose these are equal to police batons? Billy club? BDSM equipment?

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    Jul 16, 2016 7:47 PM GMT
    ELNathB said
    (14) Rope, chain, cable, strapping, wire, string, line, tape, or any similar material, in lengths greater than 6’;


    I guess no equipment for playing Batman icon_lol.gif, this is very specific, that these items cant be over 6 ft long, what about under 6 ft long? icon_lol.gif


    It must be a preventive measure. Give Lyin' Donald enough rope and...
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    Jul 16, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    Did the Republicans forget the radiological materials the Democrats list? Getting slack there, RNC!

    Of course The Donald's hair already glows in the dark, but I suspect the other convention goers don't want to join him in providing self-illumination.
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    Jul 16, 2016 8:23 PM GMT
    BUT it appears that you can bring your own bucket for waterboarding and other purposes.
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    Jul 16, 2016 9:03 PM GMT
    I don't get the humour here. After the Chicago riots back in '68 the police would have to be stupid to not ban anything that could, would or likely has been used as a weapon. I have little doubt the police are working closely with both parties to provide security for everyone.

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    Jul 16, 2016 9:16 PM GMT
    "(4) Any dangerous ordinance, weapon, or firearm that is prohibited by the laws of the State of Ohio:"

    http://www.opencarry.org/state-info-n-s/ohio/Ohio is a traditional open carry state. Recently, the Ohio legislature passed HB-12 over Governor Taft’s veto, thus preempting all local open carry bans even in Ohio’s “home rule” localities. Unfortunately, despite passage of HB-12, a permit to conceal is still required to openly carry a handgun in a vehicle.


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    http://www.ohiocarry.org/legality-of-open-carry.htmlIt is 100% legal to openly carry firearms in the state of Ohio as long as you follow the rules and procedures that go along with it.


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    https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/ohio/No state permit or license is required to purchase a handgun, rifle, or shotgun.


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    Jul 16, 2016 9:42 PM GMT
    YVRguy saidI don't get the humour here. After the Chicago riots back in '68 the police would have to be stupid to not ban anything that could, would or likely has been used as a weapon. I have little doubt the police are working closely with both parties to provide security for everyone.

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    Those were street riots, not in the convention all itself. And many people later termed it a "police riot" by the Chicago PD under the first Mayor Daly. A national TV spectacle that some political analysts later stated may have been a factor in tipping the close election between Hubert Humphrey and Richard Nixon.

    I watched it all on live TV when I was 19. I couldn't vote yet, that change to age 18 nationally was several years away. After I had turned 21, the previous Constitutional age, so a moot point for me. But I was as addicted to knowing current events then as I remain today.
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    Jul 16, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
    So it's illegal to carry tennis balls, but a loaded firearm is fine.
    Glad to see the GOP making rules that make so much sense. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jul 16, 2016 11:18 PM GMT
    10 Unusual Uses for Tennis Balls
    http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Unusual-Uses-for-Tennis-Balls/?ALLSTEPS

    Nope, no sign of "killing or maiming" in there.
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    Jul 17, 2016 4:24 PM GMT
    Jesus h Christ, like preparing for Armageddon, I have never seen or heard anything quite like this, republiCONS have lost all sense of reality
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    Some Ohio delegates expect GOP convention violence
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/07/17/as-outsiders-converge-on-cleveland-for-gop-convention-some-ohio-delegates-expect-violence.html

    The question looming over this long-awaited week in Cleveland — even more than what will come out of Trump’s mouth — is whether violence will strike.

    More than a third of the Ohio GOP delegation thinks it will, a Dispatch survey shows. “Thoughts are with are law-enforcement personal,” one delegate said.

    Thousands of protesters are among the 50,000-plus people expected, a brew including skinheads, Bikers for Trump, Patriotic Millionaires, the New Black Panthers and Westboro Baptist Church.

    Cleveland authorities say they are ready for the city’s first political convention since 1936, having prepared an overwhelming but friendly faced law-enforcement presence of about 4,000 officers. Court dockets are cleared and jails all but emptied to handle possible mass arrests, blood banks are full, and numerous businesses and colleges are shutting down for the week



    Former GOP senator predicts 'riotous conditions' at convention
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288042-former-gop-senator-predicts-riotous-conditions-at-convention

    A former New York GOP senator is predicting chaos at the Republican National Convention next week.

    "Some of the hooligans will be armed, and I think they will look to create real trouble there," Al D'Amato said in a radio interview with John Catsimatidis Sunday. "So I think you are going to have riotous conditions outside caused by these absolute degenerates who don't give a darn about the values of this country and are trying to rip us apart."

    The GOP is bracing for large-scale protests against presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump

    The FBI on Thursday also expressed concern about the possibility of violence after the New Black Panthers and some pro-Trump organizations said they will carry weapons outside of the convention.

    “It’s a threat we’re watching very, very carefully,” FBI Director James Comey said.


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    Jul 17, 2016 4:38 PM GMT
    Republicans got a significant concessions on their hotels in Cleveland:
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    Ex_Mil8 said10 Unusual Uses for Tennis Balls
    http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Unusual-Uses-for-Tennis-Balls/?ALLSTEPS

    Nope, no sign of "killing or maiming" in there.

    Actually a tennis ball could be thrown at podium speakers, be rather jolting, blacken eyes, break eyeglasses. Especially if filled with liquid. Unlike metal containers they may not trigger detectors, easier to smuggle in.

    They might even be filled with explosives. Drill a hole large enough for a blasting cap, seal it up with some sort of putty material, light and throw. Not as much force & damage as a metal container nor have a natural shrapnel effect, but still terrifying in a packed hall. Could cause a panicked stampede that might cause many injuries.

    Plus one does have to ask the question: for what purpose do you need a tennis ball in the convention hall, or in a committee meeting room, or really any public space involving the event?
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    Ex_Mil8 said10 Unusual Uses for Tennis Balls
    http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Unusual-Uses-for-Tennis-Balls/?ALLSTEPS

    Nope, no sign of "killing or maiming" in there.

    Actually a tennis ball could be thrown at podium speakers, be rather jolting, blacken eyes, break eyeglasses. Especially if filled with liquid. Unlike metal containers they may not trigger detectors, easier to smuggle in.

    They might even be filled with explosives. Drill a hole large enough for a blasting cap, seal it up with some sort of putty material, light and throw. Not as much force & damage as a metal container nor have a natural shrapnel effect, but still terrifying in a packed hall. Could cause a panicked stampede that might cause many injuries.


    I think the airport-style security at the entrance would pick up the blasting cap and the putty. And if you're that determined to lob something, I don't think a tennis ball ban is going to stop you.

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    (This is still one of the few things I admire Bush for. Great dodge!)
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    Jul 17, 2016 7:44 PM GMT
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    Ex_Mil8 said10 Unusual Uses for Tennis Balls
    http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Unusual-Uses-for-Tennis-Balls/?ALLSTEPS

    Nope, no sign of "killing or maiming" in there.

    Actually a tennis ball could be thrown at podium speakers, be rather jolting, blacken eyes, break eyeglasses. Especially if filled with liquid. Unlike metal containers they may not trigger detectors, easier to smuggle in.

    They might even be filled with explosives. Drill a hole large enough for a blasting cap, seal it up with some sort of putty material, light and throw. Not as much force & damage as a metal container nor have a natural shrapnel effect, but still terrifying in a packed hall. Could cause a panicked stampede that might cause many injuries.

    Plus one does have to ask the question: for what purpose do you need a tennis ball in the convention hall, or in a committee meeting room, or really any public space involving the event?

    If you're that determined, I don't think a tennis ball ban is going to stop you.

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    (This is still one of the few things I admire Bush for. Great dodge!)

    When I took crowd security training one of the principles is to reduce as many possible threats as possible. Yes, you may not stop them all. But working on the negative assumption that you can't be effective at all means doing nothing at all.

    And the harder & longer you make the "bad guys" work to get around your safeguards, the more likely they'll be detected. And possibly thwarted entirely, if they lack the resources and knowledge. The level of their sophistication is obviously a factor.

    Can the best terrorists defeat most defensive plans? Perhaps. But some defense is better than no defense, provided you don't develop a complacent & neglectful attitude once plans have been put into place. I liken it to the fisherman, who repairs a leak in his boat. He needs to keep checking and reevaluating it. Because repairs often have a limited service life, before the leak returns. The water is always trying to defeat your seals and to sink you.
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    Ex_Mil8 said10 Unusual Uses for Tennis Balls
    http://www.instructables.com/id/10-Unusual-Uses-for-Tennis-Balls/?ALLSTEPS

    Nope, no sign of "killing or maiming" in there.

    Actually a tennis ball could be thrown at podium speakers, be rather jolting, blacken eyes, break eyeglasses. Especially if filled with liquid. Unlike metal containers they may not trigger detectors, easier to smuggle in.

    They might even be filled with explosives. Drill a hole large enough for a blasting cap, seal it up with some sort of putty material, light and throw. Not as much force & damage as a metal container nor have a natural shrapnel effect, but still terrifying in a packed hall. Could cause a panicked stampede that might cause many injuries.


    I think the airport-style security at the entrance would pick up the blasting cap and the putty. And if you're that determined to lob something, I don't think a tennis ball ban is going to stop you.

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    (This is still one of the few things I admire Bush for. Great dodge!)



    They could try to ban fruit pies and vomit icon_lol.gif


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