Archaeologists find first-ever Philistine cemetery and 12,000-year-old Grave of Natufian Shaman

  • mwolverine

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    Jul 17, 2016 1:45 PM GMT
    Archaeologists find first-ever Philistine cemetery in Israel
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/archaeology/1.729879

    Cemetery in ancient Ashkelon, dating back 2700-3000 years, proves the Philistines came from the Aegean, and that in contrast to the conventional wisdom, they were a peaceful folk.



    Archaeologists Unearth Unique 12,000-year-old Galilee Grave of Female Shaman
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/archaeology/1.728880

    Well-preserved findings in burial cave from Natufian era 12,000 years ago shed light on surprisingly complex funereal rituals.


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    The roughly 3000-year old skeletons found in the Philistine graveyard in Ashkelon have clear hallmarks of Aegean customs, not Canaanite.

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    The bones of a 1.5 meter-tall woman lying in situ at her burial site, surrounded by tortoise shells and myriad other bones and objects, at Hilazon Cave
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    Jul 18, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
    Oldest Grave Flowers Unearthed in Israel
    http://www.livescience.com/37881-ancient-grave-flowers-unearthed.html

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    Impressions of ancient flowers were recently unearthed in nearly 14,000-year-old graves in a cave in Israel
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    Jul 23, 2016 5:29 AM GMT
    Very interesting... Palestine has a rich history since the Canaanite days.
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    Jul 23, 2016 5:31 AM GMT
    In Bethlehem Palestine I saw this

    Skulls and bones of the innocent children, that were massacred by Herod the Great


    Bones are still there.
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    Jul 25, 2016 3:44 AM GMT
    Herod was an Arab, right?
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    Jul 25, 2016 9:19 AM GMT
    I am very sad that you are clueless about the holy land history, because everything to you is "Jew".
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    Jul 25, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
    mwolverine said
    Herod was an Arab, right?

    JPGC2007 said
    I am very sad that you are clueless about the holy land history, because everything to you is "Jew".

    Huh? You mentioned Herod and I was asking if he was an Arab.
    Yes or No would have been appropriate answers, but instead you post a non-sequitur personal attack?
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    Jul 26, 2016 5:05 PM GMT
    A Greek Cypriot, after ranting about how the Turks raped, occupied and oppressed Greeks, asked if I'd ever been to Turkey and I said "Yes, and the Turks even stole the best Greek ruins, in Central Turkey's Hierapolis."

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    Bet some folk will look at the second picture of Hierapolis' Jewish cemetery and claim Jews occupied Turkey - and they'd be right!

    Politics, politics.

    (For those that missed it, before Turkey occupied Greek Cypress (and for a brief period after WWII you could claim Jews occupied Cypress!), Greece occupied and built cities in Turkey. Only history, and the winners who write it, determine who the bad guys are. What we think now may become irrelevant.)
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    Jul 27, 2016 7:11 PM GMT
    I believe, but I might be wrong, that Herod was a Jew. He was basically the Governor of the region under Roman power. He was in charge of the region but under Roman rule which was common in that era. Rome would leave a local in charge of each region. The Gauls, the Germanic regions.
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    Jul 27, 2016 7:19 PM GMT
    Dude looks hot. I like skinny guys with good teeth
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    Jul 28, 2016 1:47 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidI believe, but I might be wrong, that Herod was a Jew. He was basically the Governor of the region under Roman power. He was in charge of the region but under Roman rule which was common in that era. Rome would leave a local in charge of each region. The Gauls, the Germanic regions.

    Herod's religion was Judaism, but he was ethnically Nabatean (Arab) and Idumean (a people forcibly converted to Judaism not long before he was born).

    How many supplicants at the "Western" Wall do you think realize they're praying not at the last vestige of the Second Temple but at an internal city wall built by an Arab dictator that became a site of popular pilgrimage only in the 17th Century?
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    Jul 28, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidI believe, but I might be wrong, that Herod was a Jew. He was basically the Governor of the region under Roman power. He was in charge of the region but under Roman rule which was common in that era. Rome would leave a local in charge of each region. The Gauls, the Germanic regions.

    You are correct. Herod was born a Jew and self-identified as a Jew. That his mother was Nabatean was of no consequence, ethnicity came from the father (still today in parts of the Arab world, a bastard child abandoned by the father is stateless. If a Saudi businessman fathers a child with an Egyptian woman and goes home, the child is not considered Egyptian by the Egyptian authorities).

    No one in the ancient world considered Herod to be an Arab, including Herod himself.

    While Herod's father was genetically an Edomite, he had become a Jew (Judaism doesn't have "conversion" per se, one joins the Jewish people and part of that process is to adopt the Jewish religion, Judaism).

    Herod was born a Jew, to a Jew and considered himself a Jew - as did his contemporaries.

    Only racist trolls confuse ethnicity with genetics.
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    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151

    Incidentally, all of this was already discussed here:

    Jerusalem
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/887747
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    Jul 28, 2016 3:45 PM GMT
    JPGC2007 saidSkulls and bones of the innocent children, that were massacred by Herod the Great

    In reality (#2):

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/12/herod/mueller-text

    An astute and generous ruler, a brilliant general, and one of the most imaginative and energetic builders of the ancient world, Herod guided his kingdom to new prosperity and power. Yet today he is best known as the sly and murderous monarch of Matthew's Gospel, who slaughtered every male infant in Bethlehem in an unsuccessful attempt to kill the newborn Jesus, the prophesied King of the Jews. During the Middle Ages he became an image of the Antichrist: Illuminated manuscripts and Gothic gargoyles show him tearing his beard in mad fury and brandishing his sword at the luckless infants, with Satan whispering in his ear. Herod is almost certainly innocent of this crime, of which there is no report apart from Matthew's account.