Paul Ryan Selfie With Young Republicans Backfires When Internet Notices One Very Telling Detail

  • metta

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    Jul 17, 2016 7:02 PM GMT
    PAUL RYAN ‘SELFIE’ WITH YOUNG REPUBLICANS BACKFIRES WHEN INTERNET NOTICES ONE VERY TELLING DETAIL

    http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/racism/paul-ryan-selfie-with-white-young-republicans-backfires-when-internet-notices-one-very-telling-detail/
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    Jul 17, 2016 8:08 PM GMT
    so.... if "Black Lives Matter" posts a picture of all black people, what will be opinion on that?
  • metta

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    Jul 17, 2016 8:24 PM GMT
    1. There are many people involved in BLM that are not black.

    2. There are only 2 major political parties and BLM is not a political party.

    3. The point is that we have a major political party that basically represents a minority group of people.
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    Jul 17, 2016 8:28 PM GMT
    Actually I think there may be **1** Black face there. On the right, about the 3rd row from the back. But I'm not sure.
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    Jul 17, 2016 8:59 PM GMT
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  • metta

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    Jul 17, 2016 9:00 PM GMT
    ^
    Clinton is not a socialist. I don't even think I would consider her a democratic socialist. She is a neoliberal, which is one of the reasons why so many Republicans are supporting her.
  • jeepguySD

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    Jul 18, 2016 12:37 AM GMT
    From the article, emphasis added: For your viewing pleasure (or disgust) here is the tweet of that photo

    First of all, I am deeply put off at how the Republican Party -- and its candidates -- continually transforms race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and fear into wedge issues intended to be divisive and appeal to the worst instincts of their base and the broader electorate. I am frequently dumbfounded at how they invoke "values," whether they be so-called family values, or Christian values, or whatever moniker they choose, as euphemisms for bigotry, intolerance, and exclusionism.

    Yet I have to take exception with the implication that a group of white kids is somehow something of "disgust." If I saw a photo of Representative John Lewis with an all-black group of interns I certainly would NOT be disgusted by it. While it is true that the photo tweeted by Speaker Ryan suggests that the Republican Party has a demographic problem, it is hardly a disgusting photo.

    There is too much hyperbole on both the extreme right, AND the extreme left. Governance in a representative republic as diverse as the US must be from the center, yet political discourse in the era of Internet bloggers, partisan talk radio, social media, and hyper-biased "news" media has been hijacked by the extremes.
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    Jul 18, 2016 2:52 AM GMT
    metta said^
    Clinton is not a socialist. I don't even think I would consider her a democratic socialist. She is a neoliberal, which is one of the reasons why so many Republicans are supporting her.


    A neoliberal? Nope.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism...in reference to the resurgence of 19th century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism...

    ...neoliberalism is famously associated with the economic policies introduced by Margaret Thatcher in the United Kingdom and Ronald Reagan in the United States


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Hillary_Clinton#Scales_and_rankingsClinton's Crowdpac score is -6.4 on a left-right scale, where -10 is the most liberal and 10 is the most conservative. The score is based on a data aggregation of campaign contributions, votes, and speeches. This places her slightly right to rival Bernie Sanders by 1.7 points and matches Barack Obama's score of -6.4.[11]

    Clinton is rated a "Hard-Core Liberal" (NOT NEO) according to the OnTheIssues.org scale, which is based on her public statements on social and economic issues.[12] She is rated more liberal than Barack Obama, "as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders".[13] A New York Times analysis found that Clinton and Bernie Sanders voted the same 93 percent of the time in the two years they shared in the Senate (2007-2009).[14]

    Clinton "was the 11th most liberal member of the Senate" according to DW-NOMINATE, a multidimensional scaling method based on legislative votes
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    Jul 18, 2016 3:14 AM GMT
    jeepguySD saidFrom the article, emphasis added: For your viewing pleasure (or disgust) here is the tweet of that photo

    First of all, I am deeply put off at how the Republican Party -- and its candidates -- continually transforms race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and fear into wedge issues intended to be divisive and appeal to the worst instincts of their base and the broader electorate. I am frequently dumbfounded at how they invoke "values," whether they be so-called family values, or Christian values, or whatever moniker they choose, as euphemisms for bigotry, intolerance, and exclusionism.

    Yet I have to take exception with the implication that a group of white kids is somehow something of "disgust." If I saw a photo of Representative John Lewis with an all-black group of interns I certainly would NOT be disgusted by it. While it is true that the photo tweeted by Speaker Ryan suggests that the Republican Party has a demographic problem, it is hardly a disgusting photo.

    There is too much hyperbole on both the extreme right, AND the extreme left. Governance in a representative republic as diverse as the US must be from the center, yet political discourse in the era of Internet bloggers, partisan talk radio, social media, and hyper-biased "news" media has been hijacked by the extremes.


    Disgusting wouldn't be the first thing to my mind and might not have been the right word in referring individually to those in a group of interns who themselves happen to be white, as being white is not disgusting, but certainly it's telling that if this is such a large group of interns who they were able to gather I presume on short notice to take that pic? What does that say for their hiring, for giving people the opportunity to have that experience which makes contacts, which later opens doors, which looks nice on a resume, etc., So if this represents that lack of diversity, that lack of offering opportunity across the board, then, yeah, that aspect of it could be called disgusting because it not just represents, but takes a selfie of the shutting out of a good portion of this country's citizens from participating in their own governing.

    Having no idea what I'd find, I just did a random google image search for democratic interns and here's the first picture that came up...

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  • metta

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    Jul 18, 2016 4:04 AM GMT
    "During the 1990s, the Clinton Administration also embraced neoliberalism by supporting the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, continuing the deregulation of the financial sector through passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act and the repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act, and implementing cuts to the welfare state through passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.[61][62][63] The neoliberalism of the Clinton Administration differs from that of Reagan as the former purged it of neoconservative positions on militarism, family values, opposition to multiculturalism and neglect of ecological issues."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism


    How the Democrats Became The Party of Neoliberalism

    http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/How-the-Democrats-Became-The-Party-of-Neoliberalism-20141031-0002.html

    This is our neoliberal nightmare: Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and why the market and the wealthy win every time

    http://www.salon.com/2016/06/06/this_is_our_neoliberal_nightmare_hillary_clinton_donald_trump_and_why_the_market_and_the_wealthy_win_every_time/
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    Jul 18, 2016 11:31 AM GMT
    There's nothing wrong with the picture if you want to lose the general election for the next 100 years and beyond.
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    Jul 18, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
    UMayNeverKnow saidThere's definitely one obviously black face a few Asian ones to be sure. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Yeah, I mentioned above having seen that. But the 1 or 2 faces that we managed to pick out in that mob is nothing like the demographic diversity of modern day America. And these are supposed to be the Republican Party leaders for the future?

    The Party needs to broaden its appeal to match 21st-Century voter realities. And reflect it in its legislative agenda & policies. Good luck with that if this photo is any indication. Speaker Ryan and his Next Generation White Brigade, ready to unleash upon America. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 18, 2016 2:30 PM GMT
    metta said"During the 1990s, the Clinton Administration also embraced neoliberalism by supporting the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, continuing the deregulation of the financial sector through passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act and the repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act, and implementing cuts to the welfare state through passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.[61][62][63] The neoliberalism of the Clinton Administration differs from that of Reagan as the former purged it of neoconservative positions on militarism, family values, opposition to multiculturalism and neglect of ecological issues."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

    How the Democrats Became The Party of Neoliberalism

    http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/How-the-Democrats-Became-The-Party-of-Neoliberalism-20141031-0002.html

    This is our neoliberal nightmare: Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and why the market and the wealthy win every time

    http://www.salon.com/2016/06/06/this_is_our_neoliberal_nightmare_hillary_clinton_donald_trump_and_why_the_market_and_the_wealthy_win_every_time/


    So Clinton is the big bad wolf responsible for the repeal? Then why was its replacement named after the three little Republicans during a period when the GOP controlled both the huff and puff houses of Congress?

    And did you just quote teleSur as authority on American politics?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR...Its primary sponsor is the Government of Venezuela while other governments such as Cuba...


    I suspect some use the "neo" as pejorative, reminiscent of climate change denier southbeach's bashing of "libs" though now claiming allegiance to the Green Party as his subversive yet enhanced bashing of Sanders specifically and Democrats generally. I see he's claiming California residence now. Expect an invite to attend his luncheon of strange bedfellows.
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    Jul 18, 2016 3:50 PM GMT
    These are House of Representatives interns according to the label on the tweet. The tweet doesn't indicate which representatives that they're interning for, or what their political affiliation are.

    Interns apply for the job while they're in college - both an essay and a verbal interview are required. The process is very competitive, and due to economic considerations, I'd expect only well-to-do college students to be applying. By its nature, that would exclude poorer and minority students who are probably getting by on financial aid, loans, and scholarship programs.

    The article is basically a dishonest hit piece on Ryan which implies that all of the interns are lily white Republicans without evidence of such. Always look at the motivations of the journal and writer you're reading. Question their facts and their motivations.
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    Jul 19, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
    metta said^
    Clinton is not a socialist. I don't even think I would consider her a democratic socialist. She is a neoliberal, which is one of the reasons why so many Republicans are supporting her.


    Yes she is a socialist. She is what ever she needs to be to get votes.
  • metta

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    Jul 20, 2016 9:44 PM GMT
    here's a photo of the interns at the Democratic Convention coming up next week.

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    Jul 20, 2016 11:50 PM GMT
    Obviously staged. They even put the token crippled guy up front, I said in my best Republican humor.
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    Jul 21, 2016 1:23 AM GMT
    metta saidhere's a photo of the interns at the Democratic Convention coming up next week.

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    Not quite so lilly-white as Ryan's mob. Oh, my!

    Where were these Congressional interns for Ryan's pic? Not invited?
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    Jul 21, 2016 1:27 AM GMT
    House of Representatives, 2016 Summer Interns: Democrats

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    Jul 21, 2016 1:50 AM GMT
    metta saidHouse of Representatives, 2016 Summer Interns: Democrats

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    Uht-oh! Any reply, Speaker Ryan, to your own photo?
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    Jul 21, 2016 2:04 AM GMT
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    Jul 21, 2016 2:25 AM GMT

    Speaking of which, MJ did warn us


  • badbug

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    Jul 21, 2016 7:22 AM GMT


    I really don't get it.

    Is it really mostly a religious thing? I would love to see how many athiests vote Republican since they went full crazy.