Something That Might Help An Elderly Parent or Hearing-Impaired Friend - Our Neighbor Can Now Hear On Her New Amplified Telephone, A Free Government Service

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    Jul 21, 2016 9:28 PM GMT
    She's 91 and a widow, and has been unable to use her phone because her hearing is terrible, and was getting to be a serious problem, had to be resolved. She simply couldn't place or receive a phone call.

    I've been working on this for a while, took her to an audiologist to get her hearing loss certified for free. She won't consider wearing hearing aids at present, and probably can't afford them, anyway.

    The Federal government, and Florida, offer free amplified home telephones to the hearing impaired (I was given one myself 8 years ago, so I know the programs). I took the audiology report I had done for her and applied for an amplified phone. I picked it up today, and connected it in her condo an hour ago.

    It works for her! For the first time in months she can hear on the phone. She's so happy she was virtually in tears.

    I share this in case you may have family or friends with hearing impairments. Perhaps an elderly parent. It costs nothing. The Federal program, however, appears limited to phones that require an Internet connection. Something our neighbor does not have. The Florida program here has phones that only require a land line, which is what I got our neighbor. Your State may differ. There's no reason for the elderly to be isolated because of hearing problems.

    http://www.ftri.org/index.cfm/go/public.view/page/6
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    Jul 21, 2016 11:24 PM GMT
    NO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.
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    Jul 21, 2016 11:45 PM GMT
    She refuses to wear a hearing aid? lol.
    So now the government and tax payers have to pay for her stubborness? Unvelievable. tell her to cram a hearing aid inher old fucking head.
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    Jul 22, 2016 2:03 AM GMT
    without logging in, I KNEW it had to be Art Deco!
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    Jul 22, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
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    She refuses to wear a hearing aid? lol.
    So now the government and tax payers have to pay for her stubborness? Unvelievable. tell her to cram a hearing aid inher old fucking head.

    I don't like to wear my hearing aids, either. For one thing they don't work all that well, they're not a perfect solution for every hearing situation. Furthermore you don't wear the aids all day long in most cases, they become uncomfortable. Most people I know take them out when at home, and you don't sleep with them.

    Another factor is battery life and expense. They don't last very long, are among the most expensive of batteries, yet are tiny things that can be difficult for old fingers to replace. So you conserve their use. Therefore having an amplified residential phone makes sense. Even many business companies will supply them to their office employees with hearing impairments, to increase their efficiency, because hearing aids alone do not always work well in every phone situation. I acquired an amplified phone for myself years ago and I DO wear hearing aids.

    Incidentally, after 1 October I'll be taking her for a tentative hearing aid fitting made possible by a private, non-governmental grant for low-income people that becomes available then. She's on a fixed income, and like many seniors of very advanced age her money is worth less with each passing year due to inflation. A pair of hearing aids can cost $6000+, as mine all have, and her HMO like most plans doesn't cover them.

    I see nothing wrong with charity for our senior citizens. In their prime they very possibly worked harder than any of us do today, and helped family & others. It's time now that others help them for once.

    http://www.ftri.org/index.cfm/go/public.view/page/6
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    Jul 22, 2016 1:17 PM GMT
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    NO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.

    Commercial smoothies like those you get in fast food places (where the term smoothie was initially made popular) are generally not healthy. Homemade smoothies are as fat-free and nutritious as the ingredients you choose yourself. For Christmas I got my husband a blender that makes smoothies, directly into a covered drinking mug. Unfortunately he uses it less than I'd like, since he needs some healthy diet changes because of his heart.
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    Jul 22, 2016 1:48 PM GMT
    I don't think you realize how distasteful it strikes people when you brag about such things. No one likes a bragger; especially one who brags about their charity work. Good deeds should be done for the sake of helping people.....not to get praise from others. If you do something nice, good for you. But if you broadcast it, it kinda loses the sheen of generosity and turns it into public masturbation. Brag on the good deeds that someone else has done and let other people brag about the good deeds you have done, but don't brag on yourself.
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    Jul 22, 2016 1:58 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    WestCoastJock said
    NO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.

    Commercial smoothies like those you get in fast food places (where the term smoothie was initially made popular) are generally not healthy. Homemade smoothies are as fat-free and nutritious as the ingredients you choose yourself. For Christmas I got my husband a blender that makes smoothies, directly into a covered drinking mug. Unfortunately he uses it less than I'd like, since he needs some healthy diet changes because of his heart.


    If you knew all that then why attack me + say that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious?
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    Jul 22, 2016 2:59 PM GMT
    Radd saidI don't think you realize how distasteful it strikes people when you brag about such things. No one likes a bragger; especially one who brags about their charity work. Good deeds should be done for the sake of helping people.....not to get praise from others. If you do something nice, good for you. But if you broadcast it, it kinda loses the sheen of generosity and turns it into public masturbation. Brag on the good deeds that someone else has done and let other people brag about the good deeds you have done, but don't brag on yourself.

    I've explained this previously. These are informational items that can benefit others. With details about how I've accomplished them. The "good deed for the day" line was intended to be mildly comical & ironic (since I'm NOT known for my good deeds), but I'm gonna change it if that'll help. To reflect more of my focus & intent.

    Incidentally, I'm gonna suggest this same program to 2 of our gay friends, who also have hearing problems. One wears hearing aids now, but often can't hear his home phone ring or use it easily. The other one should have hearing aids, but doesn't want to be thought infirm, nor I guess wants the hassle. Instead we're always having to shout at him to be heard.
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    Jul 22, 2016 4:35 PM GMT
    Radd saidI don't think you realize how distasteful it strikes people when you brag about such things. No one likes a bragger; especially one who brags about their charity work. Good deeds should be done for the sake of helping people.....not to get praise from others. If you do something nice, good for you. But if you broadcast it, it kinda loses the sheen of generosity and turns it into public masturbation. Brag on the good deeds that someone else has done and let other people brag about the good deeds you have done, but don't brag on yourself.

    Art, I have to agree with Scruffy in this case - Your telling RJ of your good deeds is seen as bragging, and gets you no credit. It is a disservice to you. Somehow in your however many years on this planet, you have failed to pick up on a strong cultural more of the US - One never brags about his good deeds. To do so generates actual dislike, and maybe even contempt in those listening.
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    Jul 22, 2016 11:17 PM GMT
    [size=16]I have this phone and it is absolutely invaluable! It is now much easier to communicate with my doctor and others.
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    Jul 22, 2016 11:55 PM GMT
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    Art, I have to agree with Scruffy in this case - Your telling RJ of your good deeds is seen as bragging, and gets you no credit. It is a disservice to you. Somehow in your however many years on this planet, you have failed to pick up on a strong cultural more of the US - One never brags about his good deeds. To do so generates actual dislike, and maybe even contempt in those listening.

    I can see I'm likely gonna lose this argument. But not without mentioning my background, and motivation. Which you might choose to dismiss.

    I was trained to "lead by example". You don't just preach to other people what they should or can do, but rather what you yourself HAVE done. If that's bragging, OK. I suppose sometimes we did that, in trying to motivate soldiers.

    But honestly, I don't think that's in my psyche. I highlight my failings here (or my stupid "misadventures" as I like to call them) very often. A far more common criticism I hear from my husband, and our friends, is that I'm too tough on myself, too critical, rarely give myself proper credit.

    I suppose in the future I should write these info pieces in the impersonal third person. And not reveal I know what the hell I'm talking about despite my actually having done it myself. Reducing credility, in my view, but saving me a lot of heartburn.
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    Jul 22, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
    jonnie042 said[size=16]
    I have this phone and it is absolutely invaluable! It is now much easier to communicate with my doctor and others.

    I presume through the same Florida program I've used, since you live here? Or perhaps the Federal program. Our neighbor hasn't been able to communicate with her doctors, either. I've been doing it for her, making and confirming her appointments. Maybe now she can do these things for herself, a lot less for me to do. I suppose my motives are not entirely altruistic.
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    Jul 23, 2016 12:51 AM GMT
    WestCoastJock saidNO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.


    Dontcha just love it when fat guys give diet advice? I've also seen Fart_Deco extol the health benefits of Ritz crackers.

    But what else would you expect from a guy who brags about his voyeuristic peep exploits on guys in locker rooms. He's creepy.
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    Jul 23, 2016 12:58 AM GMT
    Radd saidI don't think you realize how distasteful it strikes people when you brag about such things. No one likes a bragger; especially one who brags about their charity work. Good deeds should be done for the sake of helping people.....not to get praise from others. If you do something nice, good for you. But if you broadcast it, it kinda loses the sheen of generosity and turns it into public masturbation. Brag on the good deeds that someone else has done and let other people brag about the good deeds you have done, but don't brag on yourself.


    If only one could/would brag about all the wonders of.......PUBLIC MASTURBATION.....right? Oh dear lord, would we all love those stories. Sadly, these would never exist. Only big cocks love to show off and brag!! LOL
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    Jul 23, 2016 2:12 AM GMT
    Art, I think you miss the point. No one is saying you should stop telling people about charitable programs or how they can help the community, but just leave your own contributions out of the conversation. For example, you could have easily told your story about the hearing aid without going on about your own charitable gift to the lady. Yes, we all like to be praised but most of us are taught at a young age to stop craving such attention. Not sure you ever learned that. And just because you stop broadcasting your good deeds, doesn't mean you'll never get recognition again. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I participate in charitable groups myself but I never call attention to it. But several times a year, I will have a complete stranger come up to me and thank me for my contribution. I usually have no idea how they know but somehow they do. It feels so much better when someone approaches you, instead of always being the one to bring it up. In fact, a bragger can actually turn people away from an organization.
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    Jul 23, 2016 2:54 AM GMT
    Radd saidArt, I think you miss the point. No one is saying you should stop telling people about charitable programs or how they can help the community, but just leave your own contributions out of the conversation. For example, you could have easily told your story about the hearing aid without going on about your own charitable gift to the lady. Yes, we all like to be praised but most of us are taught at a young age to stop craving such attention. Not sure you ever learned that. And just because you stop broadcasting your good deeds, doesn't mean you'll never get recognition again. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I participate in charitable groups myself but I never call attention to it. But several times a year, I will have a complete stranger come up to me and thank me for my contribution. I usually have no idea how they know but somehow they do. It feels so much better when someone approaches you, instead of always being the one to bring it up. In fact, a bragger can actually turn people away from an organization.


    Wow....profiles in democrat dummies. Radd tells Fart_Deco not to brag about charity....then brags about his own charity!

    Sad he's too stupid to notice his own dim witted hypocrisy. Radd = Really Asinine Democrat Dummy.
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    Radd saidArt, I think you miss the point. No one is saying you should stop telling people about charitable programs or how they can help the community, but just leave your own contributions out of the conversation. For example, you could have easily told your story about the hearing aid without going on about your own charitable gift to the lady. Yes, we all like to be praised but most of us are taught at a young age to stop craving such attention. Not sure you ever learned that. And just because you stop broadcasting your good deeds, doesn't mean you'll never get recognition again. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I participate in charitable groups myself but I never call attention to it. But several times a year, I will have a complete stranger come up to me and thank me for my contribution. I usually have no idea how they know but somehow they do. It feels so much better when someone approaches you, instead of always being the one to bring it up. In fact, a bragger can actually turn people away from an organization.


    Wow....profiles in democrat dummies. Radd tells Fart_Deco not to brag about charity....then brags about his own charity!

    Sad he's too stupid to notice his own dim witted hypocrisy. Radd = Really Asinine Democrat Dummy.



    Umm.....I never said what I did you idiot. It's obvious who you really are now by the way.
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    Jul 23, 2016 5:22 AM GMT
    I got a free phone for my Mom from through the VA. Once you push the big green button, the entire conversation is translated into text and appears in large characters on a screen that is built in to the phone. At first, I thought it was some sort of Google supercomputer magic. But it turns out that it actually hooks you up to some pennys-per-day task-worker in India who listens in to the conversation and types it out as you speak. I always found it kind of creepy...icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 23, 2016 11:09 AM GMT
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    WestCoastJock saidNO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.


    Dontcha just love it when fat guys give diet advice? I've also seen Fart_Deco extol the health benefits of Ritz crackers.

    But what else would you expect from a guy who brags about his voyeuristic peep exploits on guys in locker rooms. He's creepy.

    I wonder if anyone actually believes the lies you tell here about me, and about other matters? You really are an obsessive troll. Unfortunately your kind is far too common online. How barren & bitter their lives must be that they derive enjoyment from trying to spoil the online experience of others.
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    Jul 23, 2016 12:26 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidI got a free phone for my Mom from through the VA. Once you push the big green button, the entire conversation is translated into text and appears in large characters on a screen that is built in to the phone. At first, I thought it was some sort of Google supercomputer magic. But it turns out that it actually hooks you up to some pennys-per-day task-worker in India who listens in to the conversation and types it out as you speak. I always found it kind of creepy...icon_confused.gif

    I was shown brochures by the audiologist who tested her, that included large-screen models like you describe. (That incidentally can only be issued in Florida by non-profit agencies, not an audiologist or ear doctor, who are only authorized to validate the medical need for one) But the screen models all require an Internet connection, which she doesn't have. So the selection for her was limited to simple sound amplification, and I didn't inquire further about the screen models.

    But I'm kinda surprised about workers in India doing the voice-to-print work. The phone brochure made no mention of that. Can't computers do that automatically? Not always with the greatest accuracy, and the diction of the person speaking is important.

    But Siri displays your voice commands & questions as text, for instance. And my desktop computer will take voice dictation to write documents, or to text messages, as will my iPhone. Hard to imagine there'd be enough qualified people working in India 24/7 in multiple languages to meet the entire world's demand for those services.

    If other devices can convert voice to text, why not a phone for the hearing impaired? Or use an Internet connection to increase its accuracy via helper computers? I'll have to ask about that, you've made me curious.
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    Jul 24, 2016 4:39 AM GMT
    This won't be a problem for future generations. When all these millennials get old, crusty, and deaf, they'll just text each other. It's not like they use phones for talking anyways. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 31, 2016 7:08 PM GMT
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    WestCoastJock saidNO1CURR you fat, ignorant fart. You probably made this up just like you made up that smoothies are full of fat and not nutritious.


    Dontcha just love it when fat guys give diet advice? I've also seen Fart_Deco extol the health benefits of Ritz crackers.

    But what else would you expect from a guy who brags about his voyeuristic peep exploits on guys in locker rooms. He's creepy.

    I wonder if anyone actually believes the lies you tell here about me, and about other matters? You really are an obsessive troll. Unfortunately your kind is far too common online. How barren & bitter their lives must be that they derive enjoyment from trying to spoil the online experience of others.


    Interesting words from somebody who's all too familiar with lies. How many women did you lie to about your sexual orientation? And, for the military? Even today you talk about your "husband" but where is your marriage license?

    As I mentioned....you point the finger, and three point back at you.
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    Jul 31, 2016 8:38 PM GMT
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    This won't be a problem for future generations. When all these millennials get old, crusty, and deaf, they'll just text each other. It's not like they use phones for talking anyways. icon_lol.gif

    Perhaps not the millennials. As for myself, I hate getting text messages. Why can't you fucking SPEAK to me?

    But as for our neighbor, she 91. She's got a land line only, not cell texting, nor does she have a computer and Internet. Just how she is, the way it is, and will remain.

    So getting her an amplified land line phone was the only option I saw to resolve her problem. I'm still working on getting her hearing aids, which she doesn't want, and likely can't afford. Her medical plan, which is pretty good for most other things, doesn't cover hearing aids. Most don't.

    But I gotta say again, when I put that new amplified phone in her condo myself, and she used it and started to cry at hearing again, I was close to losing it. Yah know, this is why you do these things. Why I post them here about myself, and get eviscerated for it, in the hope that you guys will likewise do these same things.

    Oh, and BTW, I dropped a check off yesterday, to Florida's largest HIV/AIDS non-profit agency. To which I already donate. They've got a big gala coming up in August, that I doubt we'll attend ourselves. We're not much into black-tie affairs anymore.

    But we learned they were looking for a donor to cover their free valet car parking. It's an enticement to attract more attendees. Free to those attending, but SOMEBODY'S gotta pay for it, it wasn't being donated by the parking company, as they sometimes are. And it's VERY expensive, as you can imagine, for an evening event involving a couple of hundred people.

    So they were sucking wind on this, not a high exposure donation that gets your corporate name all over everything. We weren't solicited, but when I heard about it, I discussed it with my husband. He agreed.

    But keeping in mind the flak I had gotten here about mentioning my charitable giving, we also agreed it had to be anonymous. Nobody but the senior management knows we covered it. The gala attendees, and the media, will never know. And I still don't think we'll attend the event ourselves. We're kinda evented out these days.

    But I can mention it here, and catch some more flak, because this is also a kind of anonymity. Who knows me here? The online RJ guys who've met me in person are down to about a half dozen. Others have left or gone silent. Rather, I'll suffer the flak to encourage other guys to do something similar.
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    Jul 31, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
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    I got a free phone for my Mom from through the VA. Once you push the big green button, the entire conversation is translated into text and appears in large characters on a screen that is built in to the phone. At first, I thought it was some sort of Google supercomputer magic. But it turns out that it actually hooks you up to some pennys-per-day task-worker in India who listens in to the conversation and types it out as you speak. I always found it kind of creepy...icon_confused.gif

    I'm tardy getting back to your post. In the case of my own mother, she had reached the point, due to the arthritis in her hands, that she had trouble dialing a phone, even a push-button one. Her fingers were basically useless, her hands like curled claws.

    I was 1500 miles away, unable to leave my Army duties. So I called AT&T and spoke with one of their disabilities specialists. I was told they could install a special clear plastic hinged plate over my mother's home phone. This was early 1980s, long before cell phones and the Bell Phone breakup.

    All she had to do was depress that plate anywhere by any manner with her hand, and it would hit the Operator button. My Father could swing the plate back out of the way and use the buttons normally. I had her phone service changed to permit special operator voice service, which is how she placed her calls. I also had a separate AT&T speaker connected, so she didn't have to hold the phone handset, another challenge for her.

    My parents, already elderly, didn't know anything about these phone options. Nor did I, for that matter. Until I contacted Bell, explained my mother's problem, and educated myself. I'd once again have to learn what's available, as I did for our neighbor, because things change all the time.

    So that my message would be: if you're assisting a disabled or elderly person, do explore what is offered. It can be surprising.