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    Feb 11, 2009 12:00 PM GMT
    I just seen a doco on Monster Party, Club Kids promoted by Micheal Alig, in the 80s. In New York


    Made me think back to when I worked for the gay community. We used to talk about the gay scene in the USA a lot. We back then wrongly thought America homosexual community was more progressive than us Down Under. It wasn't and most definitely isn't now.

    But anyway we looked at the New York gay scene as shallow, and frivolous, and it just did not have a good reputation at all. We looked at it in much the same-way Victorians looked at the Sydney gay scene. Bitchy, frivolous and shallow.

    Where we looked at San Fran as something diffrent. More progressive, organised, a place you wanted to be.

    But then AIDS hit the media, and shocked the world. We were stunned. Then all of a sudden New York gay community pulled together to do something, they were being pro active, and trying to be organised, and do something, get something done.

    Were San Fran, was the opposite. They were running around flapping their wrists, saying; some-one has to do something, But they didn't want to give a inch. They did not want the bathhouses to close. They were not willing to give anything up, or change anything, but demanding some-one do something, They did not want to feel they were giving up any freedoms they felt they earned to help, or do something, like close the bathhouses.

    Just a moment in Gay History. Now someone in San Fran may of seen things a wee diffrent. But it's how we seen it down here. Unlike Oz they were put on their knees, during this time.
  • TexanMan82

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    Feb 11, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
    How does one go about being employed by the gay community? What's the pay? Is it a rigorous interview process?
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    Feb 11, 2009 4:03 PM GMT
    Is it too late to feed you to the dingos?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Feb 11, 2009 4:10 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidHow does one go about being employed by the gay community? What's the pay? Is it a rigorous interview process?


    I would answer that for Pat, but I would be accused of attacking him.
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    Feb 11, 2009 4:13 PM GMT
    Michael Alig-

    That tells me all I need to know.
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    Feb 11, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidMichael Alig-

    That tells me all I need to know.

    I believe he'll be eligible for conditional release for his murder conviction in 2010. Let's hope he stays away from drugs, and from the club scene.
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    Feb 11, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
    MikePhilPerez said
    TexanMan82 saidHow does one go about being employed by the gay community? What's the pay? Is it a rigorous interview process?


    I would answer that for Pat, but I would be accused of attacking him.


    Well if it's not I. Then it's your other target, Mr Stud. We know you adore us.

    How many times have to been told. Become Verified, and then, maybe we will talk; maybe? Off you go, off you toddle, on your bike.
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    Feb 11, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidIs it too late to feed you to the dingos?


    Oh the Dingo spat me out, as I'm way to tough....
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    Feb 11, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
    Pattison saidOh the Dingo spat me out, as I'm way to (sic) tough....

    The more accurate term would be indigestible. Like the rest of the crap you spew out here.
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    Feb 12, 2009 1:11 AM GMT
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    Pattison saidOh the Dingo spat me out, as I'm way to (sic) tough....

    The more accurate term would be indigestible. Like the rest of the crap you spew out here.


    Tut, tut, tut. it's the trouble with the truth. A lot of people don't like it. and this is going to led onto my next post!

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    Feb 12, 2009 1:30 AM GMT
    Just been talking with some-one at RJ. They informed me, they take my threads like this-one as personal attack, and hate me because of it. But.....in fact. All I did was talk about my experience, I had working for the gay community, in it's darkest years. It's my life, and I have every right to talk about that, and the things I seen. It's not making personal attacks, and I won't take that on. Nor is to go out of my way to be a bitchy queen, my style.

    But you don't see me going out of my way to make personal attack, like many do here, and it seems it's OK to be a bitchy queen. Now if I was too put in some names here. That would be a personal attact!

    Or do we want to become like the Mormons were we wait for enough time to pass, so we can rewrite our history, to take out all the bad bits? Our history is not all bright, and joyous.

    As a pure homosexual. I have every right to behold any veiw I wish to have on homosexual issues; gay issues. It's my birth right.

    But I have to ask. Those who don't like me. Would they care, if they talked about something I did not want talked about. Hell no. So there you go.

    I know it's the truth people hate the most, and it's what hurts the most. It's has a lot to do with all the personal attacks I've received from members of RJ. They are just like water off a ducks back.

    People try to portray you as being crazy, or a liar, and so on.

    I wonder how Ms Palin would look now if she had of been backing Obama?

    The truth is, during my time working for the gay community in the 80s. I seen a lot of evil wicked things go on!
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    Feb 12, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    Are you threatening me with removal from RJ? Because if that happens, we'll all know who caused it. I haven't violated RJ TOS, no matter who you talked to. Rather, your own history would bear review. But these things are subjective, so who knows how it will play out. But I'm glad you admitted to reporting me to RJ, so we all know your character.
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    Feb 12, 2009 1:40 AM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidIs it too late to feed you to the dingos?

    Yes, they're full now from eating the babies.

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    Feb 12, 2009 1:43 AM GMT
    Great. ANOTHER America bashing post from Pattison. And what's up with all the gay put-downs, name calling/insults, and self-righteousness?
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    Feb 12, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    NakedDevil saidGreat. ANOTHER America bashing post from Pattison. And what's up with all the gay put-downs, name calling/insults, and self-righteousness?

    I dunno, but apparently he believes he's going to have me banned from RJ over my criticism of him. Do remember me fondly when it happens! LOL!
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    Feb 12, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    this is too funny when ozz put down Obama but thay fallo the queen of english she aint even in there land
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    Feb 12, 2009 6:23 AM GMT
    LongThinCock4u saidthis is too funny when ozz put down Obama but thay fallo the queen of english she aint even in there land


    In fact Her Majesty, allows us full independence. It Vatican City, and America who want to interfere with out politics, and they are not of our land either. Mind you way off topic.

    The reasion our last PM, lost the job, was because he was to close to the USA, and looked like Australia was becoming the 51st state of the USA, and we don't want that. But hay Obama id head of a foreign country, Hawaii. America stole their land.icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 12, 2009 6:29 AM GMT
    NakedDevil saidGreat. ANOTHER America bashing post from Pattison. And what's up with all the gay put-downs, name calling/insults, and self-righteousness?


    I don't hate America. I just don't think it's the best place on earth, nor agree with it controlling the worlds sovereignty. But many Americans DON"T want to hear about it. They want to remain cocooned, in the belief they live in the best country in the world. I was purely talking about gay history. Oh AIDS come to Australia via the USA too.
    I'm not name calling!

    Me self righteous, icon_lol.gif I'm way to humble for that,

    To you one may seem self righteous. But........in fact, I'm at a very good place in my life, and have been for about 20 years now. Not a lot bothers me, and so on. So maybe it's because you have issues I don't, and are not at the same level in life, that I am. The "you" seem to feel I'm self righteous.
    Nor do I need a government to give me equality to feel good about myself. I have that already.

    But I know who I am, and I'm OK with me, and thats all that matters.icon_biggrin.gif

    Oh but look at all the personal attacks. Or is it justifiable, for gay people to attack another, if some-one has a view they don't like? These people need to won their issues, and deal with em....
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    Feb 12, 2009 6:45 AM GMT
    Mind you, there's not one person who has denied what I said as not being true, and I know there is a poster on this page, who was living in SF, during the time I talked about. I know he would of corrected me if I was wrong to. It's just full of personal attacks, to punish me for being truthful, and I will not be bullied to stop either.

    I know I've talked the truth,and thats the trouble. Anyone who has not seen and the Movie and the band played on, should. Take note of the court case in SF.
  • TexanMan82

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    Feb 12, 2009 6:14 PM GMT
    Pattison...I know this might be hard for you to grasp, but no one in America cares about Australia. All we know and care about is y'all have cute accents, kangaroos hop around everywhere, and there's a big ol' reef off the coast.

    We think of it as an amusement park for us.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Feb 12, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
    Pattison said
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    TexanMan82 saidHow does one go about being employed by the gay community? What's the pay? Is it a rigorous interview process?


    I would answer that for Pat, but I would be accused of attacking him.


    Well if it's not I. Then it's your other target, Mr Stud. We know you adore us.

    How many times have to been told. Become Verified, and then, maybe we will talk; maybe? Off you go, off you toddle, on your bike.


    Better to be an honest, real, unverified person than a dishonest, fake, verified person. I know where I come in on that. How about you Patty?
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    Feb 12, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
    LongThinCock4u saidthis is too funny when ozz put down Obama but thay fallo the queen of english she aint even in there land


    Some down there are a bit mixed up, right enough.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Feb 12, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
    Pattison said
    NakedDevil said
    Oh but look at all the personal attacks. Or is it justifiable, for gay people to attack another, if some-one has a view they don't like? These people need to won their issues, and deal with em....


    Pattison, do you ever read what you write? You are always contradicting yourself. Look at all the issues you have, Gays, America, Catholics, Christians, people with aids, guys that sleep with there partners, the list goes on and on. If you are expressing your views, I think you are one messed up guy. But I personally think you a just a shit stirrer. I think just about every thread you have ever started is directed at some group in a negative way. I personally think you should piss off.
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    Feb 12, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidPattison...I know this might be hard for you to grasp, but no one in America cares about Australia. All we know and care about is y'all have cute accents, kangaroos hop around everywhere, and there's a big ol' reef off the coast.

    We think of it as an amusement park for us.


    Love that post icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 12, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    I love all of you attacking Australia and the Queen of England instead of attacking the post....

    Real maturity...