Hillary/Kaine 2016 - Running for US President/ V.P.

  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
    Sen. Tim Kaine Named As Hillary’s VP

    http://www.joemygod.com/2016/07/22/hillary-names-running-mate/



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  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2016 12:26 AM GMT
    Hours Before Hillary Clinton’s VP Decision, Likely Pick Tim Kaine Praises the TPP

    https://theintercept.com/2016/07/21/hours-before-hillary-clintons-vp-decision-likely-pick-tim-kaine-praises-the-tpp/

    Tim Kaine Calls To Deregulate Banks As He Campaigns To Be Clinton’s VP
    Who needs consumer protections when we have all these job creators?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-clinton-vp_us_578fc8e3e4b0bdddc4d2c86c




    Wall Street Wasn't Kidding When They Forbade Warren As A Running Mate

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3338396/wall-street-wasnt-kidding-when-they-forbade-warren-as-a-running-mate/

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:01 AM GMT
    Nobody can take away the stench at the top of the ticket.



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    Jul 23, 2016 1:11 AM GMT
    S2Ki saidNobody can take away the stench at the top of the ticket.


    Try upgrading from a trumpence ticket.

  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:30 AM GMT
    Clinton Inflames Progressive Base with Choice of Tim Kaine as Vice President
    "If Clinton has reached out to Bernie supporters, it appears that she has done so to stick triangulating thumbs in their eyes."

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/22/clinton-inflames-progressive-base-choice-tim-kaine-vice-president
  • mybud

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:49 AM GMT
    Personally...I feel she should have went with Warren.
  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2016 2:10 AM GMT
    By Picking Anti-Abortion Tim Kaine, Hillary Is Testing Feminists’ Loyalty

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/07/22/hillary_clinton_picks_anti_abortion_tim_kaine_for_vice_president.html
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    Jul 23, 2016 2:14 AM GMT
    Pro: He was considered a 2nd choice for running mate in Senator Barack Obama's successful 2008 presidential campaign
    Con: He is religious, a devote Roman Catholic Jesuit

    Being religious, does this translate into moderate republicans voting for a democrat ticket? icon_confused.gif


    Tim Kaine
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 23, 2016 2:22 AM GMT
    Looks good to me

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    Jul 23, 2016 2:24 AM GMT
    http://www.lifenews.com/2016/07/22/hillary-clinton-names-pro-abortion-tim-kaine-vp-says-hes-catholic-who-supports-abortion/Hillary Clinton Names Pro-Abortion Tim Kaine VP, Says He’s “Catholic” Who “Supports Abortion
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    Jul 23, 2016 2:47 AM GMT
    At least half of the military industrial complex is probably OK with him, that might not be a good thing icon_neutral.gif




    In the 113th Congress (2013-15), Kaine served on the Committee on Armed Services, the Committee on the Budget, and the Committee on Foreign Relations.[107] In the current (114th) Congress, Kaine serves on the same three committees, plus the Special Committee on Aging.[108][109] In July 2013, Kaine was named chairman of the United States Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism.[110]

    Within the Senate Armed Services Committee, Kaine serves on the Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, the Subcommittee on Readiness and Management Support (for which he is the ranking member), and the the Subcommittee on Seapower.[111]

    Within the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, Kaine serves on the Subcommittee on State Department and USAID Management, International Operations, and Bilateral International Development (for which he is the ranking member), the Subcommittee on Europe and Regional Security Cooperation, the Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia, and Counterterrorism, and the Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Transnational Crime, Civilian Security, Democracy, Human Rights and Global Women's Issues
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    Jul 23, 2016 3:28 AM GMT
    Hillary's Wall St. speaking fees paid off......I'm sure the mega donors are quite happy with Kaine, while poor old Bernie is choking on his soup...lol

    Now they just have to get all you gullible liberals volunteering for Hillary.....so it's time to crank up the Democrat fear mongering machine.

    "Ohhh....gays.....big bad republicans gonna get you!!! They're gonna get youuuu!!! Ohhhh.....illegals....Hey ho hey ho, you're going back to Mexico!!.....get back on the democrat plantation....or the big bad republicans are gonna get you! They're gonna get youuuu!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2016 4:36 AM GMT
    Hillary and Tim Kaine: a Match Made on Wall Street

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/22/clintons-vice-president-a-match-made-on-wall-street/
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    Jul 23, 2016 4:47 AM GMT
    I think both candidates did a great job with their VP picks.
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    Jul 23, 2016 4:49 AM GMT
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288952-pro-abortion-rights-group-give-kaine-nod-of-approvalMajor (pro-choice) groups moved quickly to applaud Hillary Clinton's vice presidential pick Sen. Tim Kaine,

    NARAL Pro-Choice America sent out a statement immediately after Clinton announced Kaine as her running mate, acknowledging some of his past remarks about personal opposition to abortion and record before reaching the U.S. Senate.

    "While Senator Kaine has been open about his personal reservations about abortion, he’s maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record in the U.S. Senate. He voted against dangerous abortion bans, he has fought against efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, and he voted to strengthen clinic security by establishing a federal fund for it," NARAL President Ilyse Hogue said in the statement. .
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    Jul 23, 2016 11:35 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    Being religious, does this translate into moderate republicans voting for a democrat ticket?


    I think it does. Picking the ex-USN admiral would have been a similar reach-out to republican moderates, but the days of ex-military types running for very high office is now a bit old hat. Rather than sitting on their hands, those swing voters who are horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency probably won't have a big problem with voting Clinton/Kaine.
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    Jul 23, 2016 11:45 AM GMT
    Kaine is a smart and safe choice. HRC doesn't need help from a VP candidate to win this election. All she needs is someone who's not going to screw up, and she knows it. She knows that if she lets Trump and the Trump campaign do their own thing, they will eventually self-destruct. Indeed, HRC's choice of Kaine demonstrates her confidence that she will win the general election. See you in January 2017.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:18 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    ELNathB said
    Being religious, does this translate into moderate republicans voting for a democrat ticket?


    I think it does. Picking the ex-USN admiral would have been a similar reach-out to republican moderates, but the days of ex-military types running for very high office is now a bit old hat. Rather than sitting on their hands, those swing voters who are horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency probably won't have a big problem with voting Clinton/Kaine.
    You keep living in your ultra leftist fantasyland of a Hillary Presidency. The Wicked Witch of Wall Street picks a fellow Wall Street sycophant as her running mate. Trump/Pence is the safer, saner ticket that will not kowtow to Wall Street.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:20 PM GMT
    metta saidHillary and Tim Kaine: a Match Made on Wall Street

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/22/clintons-vice-president-a-match-made-on-wall-street/
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  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:24 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    S2Ki saidNobody can take away the stench at the top of the ticket.


    Try upgrading from a trumpence ticket.

    It is more like downgrading from the Trump/Pence ticket. Why don't you shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business you bumbling, nosy British national.
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    Jul 23, 2016 1:33 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Why don't you shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business you bumbling, nosy British national.

    What part of "public forum" don't you understand?
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    Jul 23, 2016 1:36 PM GMT
    metta said
    By Picking Anti-Abortion Tim Kaine, Hillary Is Testing Feminists’ Loyalty

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/07/22/hillary_clinton_picks_anti_abortion_tim_kaine_for_vice_president.html

    Kaine may very well moderate his positions on abortion. Haven't other politicians? But can Trump moderate & repair his terrible track record with women? For whom will feminists and many women be inclined to vote, given these 2 choices? Hillary or The Donald?

    Regarding Senator Warren, she could have been a fine VP choice. But the 2016 political reality is that the Senate is still in play. The Governor of Virginia is a Democrat in office until 2018, who has the power to appoint Kaine's successor to Congress if he becomes the VP. Kaine's not due for reelection as Senator until 2018, which means he doesn't have to lose his Senate seat if he's defeated this November. He's a strong candidate to carry Virginia for Hillary, having been the State's Governor and the Lt. Governor for a combined period of 8 years.

    He's not a very dynamic campaigner, however. Not the tell-it-like-it-is firebrand that Senator Warren is. And I do like many of her positions. But another reality is that 2 women heading the ticket could be a "bridge too far" for many voters, especially men. Perhaps Kaine, with all the advisors and "handlers" the Democratic Party can muster on the campaign trail, will break out of his reputation for boring (but highly competent) leadership.

    And Warren, whether the Dems retake the Senate or not, will remain a valuable asset there, and Hillary would need strong allies in Congress against the "Party of No". If you think Republicans tried to make President Obama's Presidency a failure, from the day he was first inaugurated, wait until you see what they'll do to Hillary. So overall I think choosing Kaine is the better tactic, and not bad for the country.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 23, 2016 1:56 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Why don't you shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business you bumbling, nosy British national.


    What part of "public forum" don't you understand? It doesn't matter that it is a public forum. US politics are for US nationals only. What part of mind your own damn business don't you understand?
  • 1blind_dog

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    Jul 23, 2016 2:24 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Ex_Mil8 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Why don't you shut the fuck up and mind your own damn business you bumbling, nosy British national.


    What part of "public forum" don't you understand?
    It doesn't matter that it is a public forum. US politics are for US nationals only. What part of mind your own damn business don't you understand?

    US politics affect many parts of the world and are, quite frankly, a more unbiased view. I welcome it. Plus you sound like a pissy little child who doesn't want others to play.
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    Jul 23, 2016 3:08 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 is an excellent contributor here, exactly for the reason that he is NOT a US national living here. An overseas perspective, and especially a British one, is refreshing and interesting. Not the same old US Party talking points, or even worse from the Righties here the Fox News talking points.

    I've objected to some non-US commenters on RJ in the past, and will again, when they are grossly ill-informed. Ex_Mil8 is extremely well-informed, however, and his insights valuable. It's important for us to hear the views of people from around the world, and especially so from our US and NATO allies. I welcome the participation by Ex_Mil8, even while some guys here, in typical Republican fashion, attempt to censor & shut down discussion that contradicts them.