Sanders on Kaine: '100 times better' than Trump

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    Jul 24, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/24/bernie-sanders-tim-kaine-trump-clinton/87499756/Sanders said that while he and Kaine do differ, the newly minted Democratic vice presidential candidate is "100 times better" than Trump — and that's on his "worst, worst day."

    "Tim is an extremely bright guy, a very nice guy. Are his political views different than mine? Yes, they are. He is more conservative than I am," Sanders told CNN's Jake Tapper.

    "But compared to Donald Trump, a guy who rejects science, doesn't even believe that climate change is real, let alone that we have to take bold action to transform our energy system, a Donald Trump who wants to give hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the top two-tenths of 1%, a Donald Trump who goes around the country insulting Mexicans and Latinos and Muslims and women, veterans and African-Americans. Trust me, on — on his worst, worst, worst day, Tim Kaine is 100 times better than Donald Trump will ever be."

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    Jul 24, 2016 4:34 PM GMT
    He could be 100 times better than Trump but Hillary is still seen as 100 times worse.
    Honestly if Hillary was at all likable- polls would show her leaving him in the dust.

    "Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is almost even with Democrat Hillary Clinton, according to the most recent Reuters/Ipsos poll taking during the Republican National Convention. The margin between the two candidates is the smallest since May."

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/donald_trump_vs_hillary_clinto_5.html

    In terms of Lloyd Etheredge’s (1978 ) fourfold typology of personality-based foreign policy role orientations, which locates policymakers on the dimensions of dominance–submission and introversion–extraversion, Clinton’s profile most closely approximates the “high-dominance introvert” category.

    According to Lloyd Etheredge, high-dominance introverts (e.g., presidents such as Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover) are quite willing to use military force, tending to divide the world, in their thought, between the moral values they think it ought to exhibit and the forces opposed to this vision. They tend to have a strong, almost Manichean, moral component to their views. They tend to be described as stubborn and tenacious. They seek to reshape the world in accordance with their personal vision, and their foreign policies are often characterized by the tenaciousness with which they advance one central idea. … [These leaders] seem relatively preoccupied with themes of exclusion, the establishment of institutions or principles to keep potentially disruptive forces in check. (p. 449; italics in original).

    http://www.immelman.us/news/behind-the-clinton-e-mails-the-psychological-profile-of-hillary-rodham-clinton/


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    Jul 24, 2016 7:40 PM GMT
    Well, Trumps admiration and friendship of Putin, together with his distancing of NATO has our European allies spooked.

    For a man like Trump, who has debts, bankruptcies and pays cents on the dollar to people he contracted....it's ironic he would threaten a NATO member's safety from RUSSIA because of non-payment.
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    Jul 24, 2016 8:42 PM GMT
    I don't know for certain if Trump's directly under the thumb of Putin but clearly he plays into that hand.
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    Jul 24, 2016 9:53 PM GMT
    I like what Sanders had to say--very honest and authentic. Clearly Kaine and he do not agree on some issues, but they do agree on a lot of issues. I feel Sanders' pain for losing the Democratic presidential nomination, and I wish he were 8 years younger so he could take over the mantle from HRC in 2024. Just bad timing.
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    Jul 26, 2016 5:36 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidI like what Sanders had to say--very honest and authentic. Clearly Kaine and he do not agree on some issues, but they do agree on a lot of issues. I feel Sanders' pain for losing the Democratic presidential nomination, and I wish he were 8 years younger so he could take over the mantle from HRC in 2024. Just bad timing.


    A) I get to say I told you so. So I'm just gonna savor this moment for a second.

    Okay, that felt good.

    B) Glad to see you come over on Sanders. I knew he was a good man from the first moment I heard him speak. Didn't even know who I was listening too. TV was in the other room. I've been semi-following him ever since and closely watching during this. Unsurprised but very pleased he's come this far.

    What I find real interesting about your comment is that not only do you seem to have shifted your position on Sanders but that you'd commiserate on the timing of his life: I'm touched and I've thought the same.

    But this is important to me for another reason: for the Sanders or bust people. Because they are at a crossroads themselves. They can turn this to shit, which I don't think they will do; or they can incorporate into the party Democrat, get off their fucking independent asses sitting on some fence and do the actual work of creating change while taking responsibility for it, not hiding behind this veil of being independent which is bullshit because just like dick most every one of them leans left or right. They need to grab on and own it.

    He's too old to run again in 8 years after Hillary. But there's nothing from stopping his legacy from living on, except maybe for his supporters to try to destroy that.