Did the Gospel of Luke Get Some Things Seriously Wrong? Jesus Was Not Whipped by Romans and No Via Dolorosa Miracles, Just Jewish Revolt Prophecies?

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    Jul 31, 2016 11:11 PM GMT
    My book, The Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy by Steefen has a Facebook page. Someone has asked me there to explain Luke 23: 26--it was not Jesus who bore the cross, it was Simon.

    My response:
    Very important that you bring this to our attention because we do not see the biblical story depicted that way. I looked at verse 25 which when read with verse 26 tells us Jesus did not start with carrying the cross but Simon of Cyrene started and went all the way.

    Have you commented on this topic before?

    11And even Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked Him. Dressing Him in a fine robe, they sent Him back to Pilate

    Chapter 23 does not give us the Mel Gibson version and it does not give us the Stages of the Cross depicted in stained glass in so many great churches.

    Again I ask you , Have you commented on this before? Verse 11 puts the mockery and ridicule on Herod and his soldiers, not on Roman soliders. You must have chosen one over the other or at least brought it to the attention of your students.

    At first I was going to say Simon carried the cross for Jesus because Jesus was whipped so badly, but Luke does not give us a whipping in Chapter 23. Luke does not give us the miracles of the Via Dolarosa.

    (In all honesty, I explain fully that the reader referenced the book by an author who passed away, in the last five years. I was in correspondence with him. This author made a case, based on a statement by Josephus that Herod did not kill every child of his predecessor. A daughter survived and gave birth to Jesus. Hence, given Jesus' royalty, he would have an audience with Pilate and would not have to carry his own cross.)
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    Aug 07, 2016 8:04 PM GMT
    Luke 23: 26–it was not Jesus who bore the cross, it was Simon.

    Double Check:
    Mark 15: 21-22 cross carried by Simon, do not see written Jesus carrying the cross
    Matthew 27: 32 cross carried by Simon, do not see written Jesus carrying the cross
    Luke 23: 26 cross carried by Simon, do not see written Jesus carrying the cross
    John 19: 17 Jesus carried the cross all the way

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    I looked at verse 25 which when read with verse 26 tells us Jesus did not start with carrying the cross but Simon of Cyrene started and went all the way.

    11And even Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked Him. Dressing Him in a fine robe, they sent Him back to Pilate

    Chapter 23 does not give us the Mel Gibson version and it does not give us the Stages of the Cross depicted in stained glass in so many great churches.

    Verse 11 puts the mockery and ridicule on Herod and his soldiers, not on Roman soldiers.

    At first I was going to say Simon carried the cross for Jesus because Jesus was whipped so badly, but Luke does not give us a whipping in Chapter 23. Luke does not give us the miracles of the Via Dolarosa.

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    Aug 20, 2016 3:29 PM GMT
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    Coming from 40+ years evangelical fundamental Christianity I would suggest most fundamentalists would say these are not inconsistencies but simply Independent separate events recorded by different people as they saw it. It all happened just as it is recorded.

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    Most fundamentalists are simply in error for 40+ years.

    Separate events? How many times did Jesus walk to his crucifixion? Twice? One with him carrying the cross and one with Simon carrying the cross? It all did not happen just as it is written in the Synoptics vs John.