riddle me this:

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    Aug 02, 2016 5:43 PM GMT
    swung by the neighbors to ck in:
    -55year old male
    -heart rate 110 down, 120 standing, my heart rate was 60/70
    -had a head ache last 3 days
    -some intermittent bad (left side hesitation or tingle)

    what options are appropriate:
    ignore, rush to the hospital 911, run to the doctor's, wait another day
  • Destinharbor

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    Aug 02, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
    And you're asking us? Not sure. I'd probably call his primary physician and ask them.
  • jeep334

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    Aug 02, 2016 6:02 PM GMT
    Sounds like classic symptoms for a stroke. I hope you've gotten him to a ER.
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    Aug 02, 2016 9:25 PM GMT
    Just checked myself 123 over 83 with heartrate of 60. Your buddy's heart is racing way fast.

    If the pressure is also high and you don't have pills handy. I've a weird thing that might help: Garlic. I had no idea about that, but one time I noticed my pressure was lower than I'd've expected, and the only thing I could think of that I'd done differently was that for a few days I had this yen for raw garlic. So I had minced it up fresh and spread it with creamed cheese on toasted English to have with my coffee.

    So after seeing the numbers down, I googled and sure enough it seems to be a thing, that garlic lowers pressure. No idea if it effects heart rate though, that seems pretty serious. I'd have that checked professionally.
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    Aug 02, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
    Drive him to the ER now. Unless in your Mountain Time zone his Primary Provider will still see him.

    We can't make a definitive diagnosis this way. Even a qualified physician (which I am not) would likely be reluctant to offer an opinion online like this. Your neighbor needs to be seen by medical professionals in person. An alternative is to call 911 so that the EMTs come to his home to do an evaluation.
  • Apparition

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    Aug 02, 2016 9:47 PM GMT
    if your heart rate is 110 and you are not a baby, you better be exercising or you have a problem in general.
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    Aug 02, 2016 10:43 PM GMT
    Apparition said
    if your heart rate is 110 and you are not a baby, you better be exercising or you have a problem in general.

    A pulse rate of 120 would alarm me even if I was doing aerobics. A sustained one of 110 resting would send me to the ER. Too bad the blood pressure isn't known.

    With both heart and stroke issues there is something known as the "Golden Hour". Get the patient to medical care within that time and their recovery chances improve dramatically. Outside that window and the prospects for a good recovery diminish, with even survival in doubt. Of course with a "widow maker" heart attack (sudden blockage of the Left Anterior Descending artery, or LAD, which supplies the left ventricle) the person may have only 5 minutes to live without immediate attention.

    My husband had a stroke in front of me. I instantly recognized what it was. Fortunately we have excellent EMS response here. I could hear the sirens outside while I was still on the phone.

    In the ER the doctor told me they could use more aggressive & effective methods if they were certain of the time of the stroke. I thought a moment, and pulled out my iPhone. I showed him when I called 911, the time stamp indicating it was only 30 minutes earlier. And said he'd had no previous symptoms, we'd been out shopping and had just returned home.

    Great, the doctor said. We don't often get such a precise establishment of the time. They began the more aggressive treatment. My husband started to come around, but then he had a SECOND stroke, right in the ER. I went out into the hall and called for the doctors. Had he been alone somewhere these things would have killed him, there was no question. A later brain MRI showed these were 2 major blockages.

    But caught early, and where they hit in his brain, he not only survived, he has no residuals to this day. No speech problems, no weakness, no balance issues, no nothing. Even his neurologists are astonished. When he tells people about it I say that any speech impediment you hear today is because he's an Italian from Boston. He smacks me. He loves to smack me.

    I have a similar story about his near heart attack (some doctors say he DID have a heart attack). But it's also long, not today. Point is, you don't delay, and you take a "worst case scenario". That might be the thing to do here.
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    Aug 17, 2016 4:32 PM GMT
    jeep334 saidSounds like classic symptoms for a stroke. I hope you've gotten him to a ER.


    Wrong! Stroke symptoms include slurred speech, facial asymmetry, motor extremity weakness on one side while the other side is normal.

    I agree with you that he needs to see a doctor. OP should not be asking for health advice on the Internet.