Difference between in class room learning v on line learning?

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    Aug 07, 2016 2:15 AM GMT
    Who has taken on line learning for some colleges and their offered courses? Pros and cons over traditional classroom?

    I may start a lateral career move since my last employer ruined my current, long standing career, college offers course work on line. Other than doing on line CA traffic school, and passing their, open book final exam, I have never used the computer as a classroom, how similar or different is college course work and study on line to traffic school? Besides the easier content of the course in traffic school (at least for me, I know some people here in LA that cant pass traffic school in person training either, lol).
  • jeep334

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    Aug 07, 2016 2:34 AM GMT
    I can offer some experience. I have taken both traditional classroom courses as well as some on line courses. I personally feel the on line course is the way to go. I believe there tends to be a heavier work load with an on line course but it's pretty much at your own pace. There are critical deadlines that must be met and assistance from a teacher is almost nonexistent. However, if you are an organized person and can tolerate independent work, then on line is a good thing.

    I have always felt there is a lot of drama and political maneuvering with a a class room setting. There is the personality of the instructor (although there is some of that to a degree with on on line course) but there is the classic favored students (for whatever reason) factor that you have to deal with. I believe the on line setting is a much fairer and productive way.

    Unfortunately, when the human factor is considered (as in a classrooms setting), you have a lot of baggage to contend with. On line is very cut and dry. All business. Although I have a decent record of good grades in both venues, I really felt that I did a lot more work and learned a great deal more on line. You have to be self-driven as well as have strong self-discipline. Good luck.
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    jeep334 saidI can offer some experience. I have taken both traditional classroom courses as well as some on line courses. I personally feel the on line course is the way to go. I believe there tends to be a heavier work load with an on line course but it's pretty much at your own pace. There are critical deadlines that must be met and assistance from a teacher is almost nonexistent. However, if you are an organized person and can tolerate independent work, then on line is a good thing.

    I have always felt there is a lot of drama and political maneuvering with a a class room setting. There is the personality of the instructor (although there is some of that to a degree with on on line course) but there is the classic favored students (for whatever reason) factor that you have to deal with. I believe the on line setting is a much fairer and productive way.

    Unfortunately, when the human factor is considered (as in a classrooms setting), you have a lot of baggage to contend with. On line is very cut and dry. All business. Although I have a decent record of good grades in both venues, I really felt that I did a lot more work and learned a great deal more on line. You have to be self-driven as well as have strong self-discipline. Good luck.




    As I was saying in another post, the smart phone and its apps have taken over much of todays communications, we don't talk any more, we text. We don't meet face to face anymore, we Face Book. Todays, 'first job interview', is 'screened over the phone. It would make sense that these on line classrooms would also be the wave of the future. This is all great for introverts and isolationists. This is all very strange though for us extroverts, especially those of us who came of age right before the PC boom. When I went to college in the late 80's, we had 'group study' or you had a study buddy because we met in the class

    The business climate back then was "team effort". You most certainly worked in a "team environment" within your department ranks. The newest generation, most likely using the virtual on line class room is missing out on this once favored, work as a team dynamic. At my age, I am just used to this dynamic, however, as you say, lot of drama and political maneuvering. This captures the work place as it has always been, especially in a corporate setting.

    As the younger generations take over in the business world, these people grew up as isolationists. The smart phone (which is a hand held computer), has made people non interactive. I am sure this is creeping into the business and corporate world, blowing way past the Blackberry, which I remember at one time, was used only by the executive. The only thing I have seen so far, where a smart phone has people 'interacting' with each other is that weird craze, Pokemon Go.

    Before I start, I have to make up my mind to go brick and mortar classroom or virtual. The on line will give me flexibility if I do get part time work after I start, a classroom schedule would be more difficult to work around. The director of the college program suggested on line due to the flex in it. I love interacting with people, I am usually the first one to raise my hand in a group setting, lol. I would def miss that company. Part of that learning experience is relationship building among other humans icon_neutral.gif

    On line, no one knows who you are or your fellow classmates, those people you traditionally make friends with on a college campus, a learning center or just becoming a networking source. You always 'want to know' where your classmate is working afterwards (or not)


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    Aug 07, 2016 2:36 PM GMT
    I'd taken online classes to satisfy my continuing legal education (CLE) requirements for my bar memberships. They're not necessarily bad, but I do think they lack the personal interaction that makes live classes more interesting. To me, online classes are a bit artificial and impersonal.
  • leanandclean

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    Aug 07, 2016 4:06 PM GMT
    Online learning is most popular among people who already have (traditional) degrees
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    Aug 07, 2016 5:31 PM GMT
    leanandclean saidOnline learning is most popular among people who already have (traditional) degrees



    Well, that's an interesting perspective
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    Aug 08, 2016 1:03 AM GMT
    ELNathB saidWho has taken on line learning for some colleges and their offered courses? Pros and cons over traditional classroom?

    I may start a lateral career move since my last employer ruined my current, long standing career, college offers course work on line. Other than doing on line CA traffic school, and passing their, open book final exam, I have never used the computer as a classroom, how similar or different is college course work and study on line to traffic school? Besides the easier content of the course in traffic school (at least for me, I know some people here in LA that cant pass traffic school in person training either, lol).

    I've taken a few online courses in the past. We only met in class like 3 times.. start of the class/orientation, mid-terms, and then finals. I'm personally not a fan. Although, I aced the classes, I prefer going to class and interacting with the teacher and other students. To me, learning is more than just memorizing stuff from a book. There's always something to be learned from others in a collective environment. Email lists and chat groups don't quite cut it for me.
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    ELNathB saidWho has taken on line learning for some colleges and their offered courses? Pros and cons over traditional classroom?

    I may start a lateral career move since my last employer ruined my current, long standing career, college offers course work on line. Other than doing on line CA traffic school, and passing their, open book final exam, I have never used the computer as a classroom, how similar or different is college course work and study on line to traffic school? Besides the easier content of the course in traffic school (at least for me, I know some people here in LA that cant pass traffic school in person training either, lol).

    I've taken a few online courses in the past. We only met in class like 3 times.. start of the class/orientation, mid-terms, and then finals. I'm personally not a fan. Although, I aced the classes, I prefer going to class and interacting with the teacher and other students. To me, learning is more than just memorizing stuff from a book. There's always something to be learned from others in a collective environment. Email lists and chat groups don't quite cut it for me.





    Well, that is what I am used to, the classroom and bouncing off thoughts and ideas with others. Any project management, manager or leader has always been or known the 'team' thing, when you are trying to rah, rah, motivate employees (slaves). Corporate America has been 'structured' by departments. If you are in one of those departments that interact with some or all of the other departments, you are in fact 'teaming' with others, you have to understand that dynamic in the workplace. The job of one person in one department, might affect your job in another department.

    Being my age, my workplace "competition" are those young isolationists who grew up with the hand held do all computer. Most of them are probably not familiar with the 'team' concept in traditional work. This may have something to do with corporate Americas unhappiness with this millennials, uncaring, entitled, I want now generation in the workplace. There is enough blame to go around for what is happening in the current US job market.

    The new ways of doing things (Aries) has been clashing with the old guard (Capricorn) in the fight for change. We obviously see this in this election cycle. This means corporate America (Capricorn) will eventually have to relinquish its old ways once (Pluto) breaks down their rigid systems by 2023. I am at the age, not ready to retire but now face age discrimination as well as sexual orientation. I am sure, right now, corporate America still favors the traditional classroom setting, they haven't been pushed to change yet, much like the individual has had to.

    Everything in life can just change on a dime these days, if your life circumstances has been 'stable' since the start of the 2008 great recession, then congratulations! This en masse change was supposed to affect everyone individually, however that manifests in ones own life. Here I am at 50, forced to update myself, learning a new skill, to 'match' the needs of the current old guard, who at this point, holds too much power to change, flex and morph itself.

    The old guard is still too focused on capitalism and profit margins while caring less and less for the individual. I suppose my work, career 'goal' at this point is just to make it to retirement age, earliest is 55, ideal 60 and enjoy whatever time or money I have left. But many of us are having to work well into late 60's, I would prefer not to, especially being gay. I will probably take the on line course work only because of my current need for flexibility

    I am kind of scared actually, like walking into the Abyss icon_neutral.gif