Does God Have a Gender? If No, Is God Transgender?

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    Aug 13, 2016 4:34 AM GMT
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    NYT: To the Israelites, identity was fluid, for humans as well as Jehovah.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/opinion/is-god-transgender.html?
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    Aug 13, 2016 6:56 AM GMT
    I will remember this one to ask my pastor colleague to piss him off
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 13, 2016 7:13 AM GMT
    metaphysical beings such as God have no gender ... gender only serves one purpose and that is to reproduce ... God and other beings such as angles, spirits, demons have no gender. Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form. So it is for metaphysical beings. That is, they transcend the laws of a physical universe.
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    Aug 13, 2016 12:20 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form.



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    Aug 13, 2016 1:43 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidmetaphysical beings such as God have no gender ... gender only serves one purpose and that is to reproduce ... God and other beings such as angles, spirits, demons have no gender. Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form. So it is for metaphysical beings. That is, they transcend the laws of a physical universe.


    1. Sir. I believe light and air do indeed have physical forms. Air is a gas, and light is represented by photon particles.

    2. Depending on the language you're speaking, both have genders! Grammatically, light is female and air is male in Spanish, for example.

    Just annoyingly picking at your argument... lol. Have a nice day!
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    Aug 13, 2016 1:48 PM GMT
    Gender is an evolutionary development of those biological life forms that utilize sexual reproduction. It might be noted that some life forms on Earth are asexual, and able to reproduce without sex.

    An eternal spiritual being would not have been produced by biological sexual means, nor would it reproduce in that manner. And so therefore it would possess no gender as we use the term.
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    Aug 13, 2016 2:08 PM GMT
    there are millions of gods belonging to thousands of religions. you can believe anything you want.
  • jeepguySD

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    Aug 13, 2016 2:54 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form.


    These questions have no meaning, and the statement is fundamentally wrong. As an electromagnetic wave, light has a very clearly defined and measurable sinusoidal form. Light also has energy and momentum, again defined and measurable quantities.

    Air is a gas and most certainly physical. On Earth, air is composed of molecular nitrogen (78%), molecular oxygen (21%), atomic argon (1%), and traces of other compounds.

    To ask if they have gender is spurious logic. Of course non-living things have no gender, but that has no bearing on whether a particular living thing (or allegedly living thing) has gender. My toaster has no gender, and that means nothing.

  • jayatl56

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    Aug 13, 2016 3:02 PM GMT
    God is a fat black woman.
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    Aug 13, 2016 3:10 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidmetaphysical beings such as God have no gender ... gender only serves one purpose and that is to reproduce ... God and other beings such as angles, spirits, demons have no gender. Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form. So it is for metaphysical beings. That is, they transcend the laws of a physical universe.


    Very nice!!!
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    NYT: To the Israelites, identity was fluid, for humans as well as Jehovah.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/opinion/is-god-transgender.html?


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  • dextersima

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    Aug 13, 2016 6:41 PM GMT
    if there's no gender, there's no such thing called transgender
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    Aug 13, 2016 7:12 PM GMT
    Merriam-Webster defines transgender as "having personal characteristics that transcend traditional gender boundaries." So does not God transcend traditional gender boundaries?
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    Aug 13, 2016 8:25 PM GMT
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    AMoonHawk said Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form.



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    We arent modeled in the image of light, otherwise we'd be photons, but we are in Gods, and we have gender, so for man and woman to exist he must have both icon_lol.gif
  • Dynamo_spark

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    Aug 14, 2016 5:51 AM GMT
    Someone once asked me the question, "If we are created in the image of God, why are some born handicapped and why do we all look different?" My answer was, the image of God is not on the outside, it lives within. The very spirit God breathes in us to give us life or when he gave Adam life, our souls and sprit, that is God's image. If we read The book of Genesis, we see that God is in fact man. He created man in his own image, then placed man into a deep sleep, removing a rib to create a companion (woman). Later in the NT, God sent his son in the form of man. Does this maybe put this forum into perspective?
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    Aug 14, 2016 7:20 AM GMT
    jeepguySD said
    AMoonHawk said Does light have a gender? Does air have a gender? No. We know they both exist, but neither has a physical form.


    These questions have no meaning, and the statement is fundamentally wrong. As an electromagnetic wave, light has a very clearly defined and measurable sinusoidal form. Light also has energy and momentum, again defined and measurable quantities.

    Air is a gas and most certainly physical. On Earth, air is composed of molecular nitrogen (78%), molecular oxygen (21%), atomic argon (1%), and traces of other compounds.

    To ask if they have gender is spurious logic. Of course non-living things have no gender, but that has no bearing on whether a particular living thing (or allegedly living thing) has gender. My toaster has no gender, and that means nothing.




    light is not a physical form. You can touch light, you can't hold it, you can't box it up and ship it across country. Sure scientist have come up with a way to measure different waves of light, but so far that I know, they have found no way to physically touch light.

    Is air really gas molecules? If you use a vacuum to pull out all the gas from glass container you can still see through the glass container, so what is that in there? What is the space between and atom and a proton? Is that gas? What is the vastness of space made of, are all this supposed gas molecules invisible, because certainly if these molecules had some physical aspect we would not be able to see through all of them across the expanse vastness of space. Take water for instance. It has a physical presence and is made up of gas molecules, H2O, and you can see through it if you look through a glass of water, but if you have enough of it in front of you, there is a point where you can no longer see through it. It becomes a wall. So are you implying that there is no air outer space? So does it only exists here on earth?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 15, 2016 4:46 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidLight is matter, mainly photons. Photons may not have mass but they are no less matter than electrons or protons.

    Put some in a box an send them to me icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • Eleven

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    Aug 15, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
    Ppl are saying that god is genderless and that gods don't have sex but that's not true in my books

    God is energy and is depicted as the sun in my books, god energy has reined since the sun rose in africa, circle of life style....God energy taught us how to survive, technology, maths

    Goddess energy is the moon, nurturing, influential, mystical and helps us to reflect on ourselves, and that teaches us spirituality, intuition and magic lol

    And theres plenty of other energies in the cosmos who knows what gender they are and what offspring they made.

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    Aug 15, 2016 4:58 PM GMT
    I decided a long time ago that God is a woman...

    ...it explains why we're always trying to please her and that nothing we do is ever good enough...

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 16, 2016 4:51 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidLight is matter, mainly photons. Photons may not have mass but they are no less matter than electrons or protons.

    Put some in a box an send them to me icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    Your argument is absurd. Put it in a box for you? I've already explained to you through basic science. Photons, electrons and neurons are matter and they exist. Just because you can't palpate it with your hands or touch it doesn't mean it falls under the category of metaphysics. There is no air in outer space. Beyond our atmosphere it is a vacuum. Sound needs air to travel. Sound cannot be heard in outer space. Air is bound by gravity and is responsible for scattering sunlight which is what makes our skies light blue during the daytime.


    If space is a vacuum, then where's the cork?
    If there is no air is space there where do all those gasses go from streaking comets and those tails streaking behind them, exploding stars. If all that dust and gas just disintegrates because it's a vacuum, then why don't the satellites, and rockets and, moon and planets?

    Look up the word 'Metaphor'

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  • Apparition

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    Aug 17, 2016 3:49 AM GMT
    boring.

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    Oh and as for light. there is particle wave duality. The photoelectric effect (shows light is a particle), whereas diffraction showed it to be a wave...enter quantum mechanics to the rescue.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 18, 2016 7:01 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidLight is matter, mainly photons. Photons may not have mass but they are no less matter than electrons or protons.

    Put some in a box an send them to me icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    Your argument is absurd. Put it in a box for you? I've already explained to you through basic science. Photons, electrons and neurons are matter and they exist. Just because you can't palpate it with your hands or touch it doesn't mean it falls under the category of metaphysics. There is no air in outer space. Beyond our atmosphere it is a vacuum. Sound needs air to travel. Sound cannot be heard in outer space. Air is bound by gravity and is responsible for scattering sunlight which is what makes our skies light blue during the daytime.


    If space is a vacuum, then where's the cork?
    If there is no air is space there where do all those gasses go from streaking comets and those tails streaking behind them, exploding stars. If all that dust and gas just disintegrates because it's a vacuum, then why don't the satellites, and rockets and, moon and planets?

    Look up the word 'Metaphor'

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    So this is how you respond. Instead of acknowledging the fact that you apparently couldn't grasp fifth grade level science class, you bombard me with irrelevant questions that have no bearing on the topic at all? If you want, I can take the time to explain the science behind the tail of a comet and it's physical nature. But only if you promise not to prolong this weak attempt at grasping to your metaphysical, mystical hogwash and blatant red herring fallacy tactics.

    Angels and spirits and demons...OH MY! icon_razz.gif


    And you still don't know what a metaphor is .... See kids ... This is what happens when you drop out of high school... You think you know everything, when you actually don't know shit. Take this as a life lesson .... Stay in school.


    Another word you might find interesting is 'theory'.

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 20, 2016 8:21 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    And you still don't know what a metaphor is .... See kids ... This is what happens when you drop out of high school... You think you know everything, when you actually don't know shit. Take this as a life lesson .... Stay in school.


    Another word you might find interesting is 'theory'.

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    You're so amused with yourself, aren't you? I will admit to something I don't know. And that is, why you made the choice to inappropriately talk in metaphors regarding accepted scientific information. I can clearly picture you in my college level science class challenging the professor (and science) with your noteworthy metaphors to explain the physical universe. And afterward, he and the whole class will laugh you out of the room.

    Take some advice from someone who has more formal education that you: when someone talks to you about science don't be all too eager to prevaricate by quibbling in bad "new age" analogies. Above all, don't be smug about it.


    Don't pout because you can't grasp the concept of a metaphor ... Read a book ... Maybe you'll learn something ... And you having any sort of formal education is the joke of the year ... Sorry bud, but Trump university doesn't count.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 22, 2016 6:34 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    AMoonHawk said
    And you still don't know what a metaphor is .... See kids ... This is what happens when you drop out of high school... You think you know everything, when you actually don't know shit. Take this as a life lesson .... Stay in school.


    Another word you might find interesting is 'theory'.

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    You're so amused with yourself, aren't you? I will admit to something I don't know. And that is, why you made the choice to inappropriately talk in metaphors regarding accepted scientific information. I can clearly picture you in my college level science class challenging the professor (and science) with your noteworthy metaphors to explain the physical universe. And afterward, he and the whole class will laugh you out of the room.

    Take some advice from someone who has more formal education that you: when someone talks to you about science don't be all too eager to prevaricate by quibbling in bad "new age" analogies. Above all, don't be smug about it.


    Don't pout because you can't grasp the concept of a metaphor ... Read a book ... Maybe you'll learn something ... And you having any sort of formal education is the joke of the year ... Sorry bud, but Trump university doesn't count.


    All this coming from the spiritually fulfilled person who firmly believes that all Republicans "hate" him or his lunatic fascist liberal beliefs. You always had a flare for the dramatic, as spiritually "enlightened" people typically do. And you're poorly attempting to misdirect attention away from your own idiocy by attacking what you believe to be my political party alignment. Yet another blatant red herring attempt. It has no relevance here in our conversation. You're so predictable.


    You're way off base ... There was no relation to what ever political party you are associated with And you're also completely wrong about any spiritual association... I guess you're just living in you're own little world, projecting your own internalizations on others.

    Hate on people much?
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    Aug 22, 2016 7:37 PM GMT
    JonSpringon saidI decided a long time ago that God is a woman...

    ...it explains why we're always trying to please her and that nothing we do is ever good enough...

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    Good, I like that. And might explain why I have no interest in God and never waste my time trying to please her.