ARTICLE ON GAY HOOK-UP IN RIO REMOVED

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    Aug 13, 2016 3:27 PM GMT
    A highly irresponsible article written by Nico Hines, a Daily Beast contributor who's straight, was recently removed by Daily Beast after a public backlash. In his article, Hines recalled using dating apps like Tinder and Grindr to meet athletes in the Olympic Village in Rio who were looking for sex. Reportedly, although the article didn't name names, it did provide personal descriptions that were specific enough to identify some of the "closeted" gay athletes. See http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/12/media/daily-beast-olympics-article-removal/index.html.

    Separately, Amini Fonua, an "out" gay Olympian from Tonga, furiously condemned Hines' article for the harm it has caused to some of the closeted athletes. See http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/08/11/gay_olympian_amini_fonua_speaks_out_on_
    homophobic_daily_beast_grindr_in.html.

    This is just an example of how irresponsible and thoughtless some of our "journalists" can be. Didn't Hines know that many of these closeted gay athletes come from countries--to which they will return after the Olympics--that actually kill people for being gay?
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    Aug 13, 2016 3:31 PM GMT
    Hines is a straight man whose purpose is to further his journalistic career on the back of gay Olympians.
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    Aug 13, 2016 5:07 PM GMT
    I'm disgusted by what passes for "journalism" these days.

    Dude had NO journalistic need to report on the sexual escapades of the Olympic Village. Everyone knows that everyone is bangin'... please... being surrounded by the hottest, fittest athletic bodies in the world... who WOULDN'T be on the prowl!?
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    Aug 13, 2016 6:02 PM GMT
    JonSpringon saidI'm disgusted by what passes for "journalism" these days.

    Dude had NO journalistic need to report on the sexual escapades of the Olympic Village. Everyone knows that everyone is bangin'... please... being surrounded by the hottest, fittest athletic bodies in the world... who WOULDN'T be on the prowl!?

    how do you know everyone is bangin everyone in the Olympic village?
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    Aug 13, 2016 6:03 PM GMT
    Brock700 said
    JonSpringon saidI'm disgusted by what passes for "journalism" these days.

    Dude had NO journalistic need to report on the sexual escapades of the Olympic Village. Everyone knows that everyone is bangin'... please... being surrounded by the hottest, fittest athletic bodies in the world... who WOULDN'T be on the prowl!?

    how do you know everyone is bangin everyone in the Olympic village?


    How do you NOT know? there's a long history of hookups among the athletes.
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    Aug 13, 2016 6:52 PM GMT
    JonSpringon said
    Brock700 said
    JonSpringon saidI'm disgusted by what passes for "journalism" these days.

    Dude had NO journalistic need to report on the sexual escapades of the Olympic Village. Everyone knows that everyone is bangin'... please... being surrounded by the hottest, fittest athletic bodies in the world... who WOULDN'T be on the prowl!?

    how do you know everyone is bangin everyone in the Olympic village?


    How do you NOT know? there's a long history of hookups among the athletes.


    But how do you know there not exaggerating on how much sex is happening in the olympic village? Some athletes say it's a myth.
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    Aug 13, 2016 9:12 PM GMT
    There's many forms of journalism though most of what's online is not even that. At best this would be yellow or depending on the guy's intent maybe more appropriately categorized as tabloid journalism. The problem with the internet is so many "writers" and "reporters" are untrained. And then the bigger problem being that most readers don't know the difference. Especially the younger generations. They see something online and believe that crap. So this is a problem (exploited by Republicans, haha).

    My first thought was that both writer and editor ought to be fired. But then I read the wiki on them and it seems the writer is their London (I think it was) editor. So it's possible that no one else reviewed his work.

    I know this happens because I was in publishing when we first computerized the editorial desks. And I'm one of these guys who pushes every button to see what a thing does--even those not on people--and so during training it turned out that I'd figured my way so thoroughly through their system that I made it out of the training program and into the mainframe. Oooops. Well, we were making up quick stories to write and edit and publish, because we had basically these publish buttons on our desks. So of course I made up a story about the president of the fortune five. Not a pretty story. I was just goofin'. Well, it turned out that the following day I get notice that my "report" was moments from being distributed world wide when somehow someone happened to notice and stopped it from going out into circulation. We all got a chuckle out of that.

    So I don't know but they might very well be set up with offices (laptops) around the world (in people's houses) and the editor is the writer is the fucking publisher. SEND! If they want to be taken seriously they ought to install a buffer person to review all that before publishing.

    Reading up on the Daily Beast here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Beast, I see they've already a charge of plagiarism against them. Now that's something an editor might not have caught. So bad for the reporter but not necessarily reflective upon the paper. This most certainly does reflect on the organization because the content could have and should have been reviewed before publishing.

    I'd fire the guy not just for lowering the standards of that media but as mentioned, placing people in jeopardy of their very lives. And even more immediately, causing emotional duress which easily could affect performance at the games. The writer is a douche and there's a moral responsibility upon the media who pays him which needs be owned.
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    Aug 13, 2016 9:27 PM GMT
    I know that many of the guys on here kind of hate Breitbart, but this article is quite interesting:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/12/social-media-society-not-daily-beast-shamed/

    "[...]It is the recklessness of engaging in social media irresponsibility that is the threat, Hines was just one of the means to that tumultuous end. He was not the cause, just a symptom.

    Make no mistake; this is not just a gay issue. People have lost their collective minds when it comes to social media. America, a nation that respected privacy so much a constitutional amendment was added to protect it, no longer has a clue of what privacy is.

    From the backsides of Kardashians to Orlando Bloom in the buff, our celebrity royalty is symptomatic of a people who not only have a disregard for privacy; they don’t want it. Whether you are the star of stage and screen or a bored businessman, people use modern technology in a narcissistic way and then are shocked when their intimate details become public.[...]

    Where there was an element of shame in random hook-ups years ago, these apps have liberated individuals from that sense with the false assumption that their actions are private.

    But when you use an app that is open to the public and you willingly divulge information to strangers online that you would never do to a stranger on the street, what do you expect?

    As long as individuals – gay and straight – fail to protect their privacy and ignore the very public nature of social media apps, there will always be a Hines. The cure is not to shame Hines, it is to rediscover our own sense of modesty."
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    Aug 13, 2016 9:35 PM GMT
    eipoika saidI know that many of the guys on here kind of hate Breitbart, but this article is quite interesting:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/12/social-media-society-not-daily-beast-shamed/

    "[...]It is the recklessness of engaging in social media irresponsibility that is the threat, Hines was just one of the means to that tumultuous end. He was not the cause, just a symptom.

    Make no mistake; this is not just a gay issue. People have lost their collective minds when it comes to social media. America, a nation that respected privacy so much a constitutional amendment was added to protect it, no longer has a clue of what privacy is.

    From the backsides of Kardashians to Orlando Bloom in the buff, our celebrity royalty is symptomatic of a people who not only have a disregard for privacy; they don’t want it. Whether you are the star of stage and screen or a bored businessman, people use modern technology in a narcissistic way and then are shocked when their intimate details become public.[...]

    Where there was an element of shame in random hook-ups years ago, these apps have liberated individuals from that sense with the false assumption that their actions are private.

    But when you use an app that is open to the public and you willingly divulge information to strangers online that you would never do to a stranger on the street, what do you expect?

    As long as individuals – gay and straight – fail to protect their privacy and ignore the very public nature of social media apps, there will always be a Hines. The cure is not to shame Hines, it is to rediscover our own sense of modesty."


    Horseshit

    This is witch hunt plain and simple. They want the witches back into the closet. Fuck them Presto change-o, a pox on them!

    Even in public, there are assumptions of privacy. Just because I piss in a public urinal is not your license to photograph my urinating dick to publish on your stupid as fuck website so you can attract your pervert viewers to sell advertising for your profit. Just because a dick is out in public does not imply no rights to privacy.

    First they raided our gay bars.
    Then they set up sting operations to catch us in parks & parking lots.
    Now they hunt us on the internet.
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    Aug 13, 2016 10:11 PM GMT
    eipoika saidI know that many of the guys on here kind of hate Breitbart, but this article is quite interesting:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/12/social-media-society-not-daily-beast-shamed/

    One journalist defending another journalist. Nothing new there.
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    Aug 13, 2016 11:05 PM GMT
    You guys got it wrong. It is about privacy in the internet, or the lack of it.
    If you're in the closet and use gay hookup apps you might be exposed. If you send nudes to anyone (even your boyfriend/girlfriend) you might be exposed.
    Being on the internet and sharing your life with strangers is not the best way to keep your secrets.
    Plus the writer didn't defend Hines, he just showed a wider picture of the situation.

    Also I haven't seen any outrage towards the fact that being gay in Tonga is still a crime. That is something people should worry about.
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    Aug 14, 2016 12:24 AM GMT
    eipoika saidYou guys got it wrong. It is about privacy in the internet, or the lack of it. If you're in the closet and use gay hookup apps you might be exposed. If you send nudes to anyone (even your boyfriend/girlfriend) you might be exposed. Being on the internet and sharing your life with strangers is not the best way to keep your secrets. Plus the writer didn't defend Hines, he just showed a wider picture of the situation. Also I haven't seen any outrage towards the fact that being gay in Tonga is still a crime. That is something people should worry about.

    Using your logic then it would be ok for a photographer to hang out across the street from a popular gay dance club in Rio and take pictures of people entering and leaving, identify the ones that are Olympic athletes and publish them.
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    Aug 14, 2016 5:21 AM GMT
    These athletes outed themselves by being on a gay public hookup app. Thus they have no right to play the victim, man up lads.
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    Aug 14, 2016 10:46 PM GMT
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    eipoika saidYou guys got it wrong. It is about privacy in the internet, or the lack of it. If you're in the closet and use gay hookup apps you might be exposed. If you send nudes to anyone (even your boyfriend/girlfriend) you might be exposed. Being on the internet and sharing your life with strangers is not the best way to keep your secrets. Plus the writer didn't defend Hines, he just showed a wider picture of the situation. Also I haven't seen any outrage towards the fact that being gay in Tonga is still a crime. That is something people should worry about.

    Using your logic then it would be ok for a photographer to hang out across the street from a popular gay dance club in Rio and take pictures of people entering and leaving, identify the ones that are Olympic athletes and publish them.


    Paparazzis do that all the time, but I'm still talking about online stuff. They shared personal information with a stranger in some gay app. Internet is full of catfish... It was Hines who they were chatting with but it could've been anyone.
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    Aug 15, 2016 12:10 AM GMT
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    eipoika saidYou guys got it wrong. It is about privacy in the internet, or the lack of it. If you're in the closet and use gay hookup apps you might be exposed. If you send nudes to anyone (even your boyfriend/girlfriend) you might be exposed. Being on the internet and sharing your life with strangers is not the best way to keep your secrets. Plus the writer didn't defend Hines, he just showed a wider picture of the situation. Also I haven't seen any outrage towards the fact that being gay in Tonga is still a crime. That is something people should worry about.
    Using your logic then it would be ok for a photographer to hang out across the street from a popular gay dance club in Rio and take pictures of people entering and leaving, identify the ones that are Olympic athletes and publish them.
    Paparazzis do that all the time, but I'm still talking about online stuff. They shared personal information with a stranger in some gay app. Internet is full of catfish... It was Hines who they were chatting with but it could've been anyone.

    Just because people are foolish and do stupid things that doesn't give journalists carte blanche behave in a sleazy manner and take advantage of their foolishness in order to sell newspapers, get clicks, grab eyeballs, etc.
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    Aug 15, 2016 3:34 AM GMT
    When I was on Grindr in Rio, some guy kept asking me if I was an athlete.
    His profile said he was 21, "hung" and a "Stanford senior".
    Ignored it the first time, but he persisted.
    If that was Hines, wish I wouldn't have replied honestly (after which I heard nothing further) and taken him for a ride.
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    Aug 16, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
    Aunty_Jack saidThese athletes republicans @ RNC outed themselves by being on a gay public hookup app. Thus they have no right to play the victim, man up lads.



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    Aug 18, 2016 6:01 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    Aunty_Jack saidThese athletes republicans @ RNC outed themselves by being on a gay public hookup app. Thus they have no right to play the victim, man up lads.



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    If it helps u. The fact still remains that the athletes outed themselves, by being on a public gay hook-up app.