Rio Olympics 2016 - The Police Say Ryan Lochte Lied About Gunpoint Assault

  • metta

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    Aug 18, 2016 6:43 PM GMT
    The Police Say Ryan Lochte Lied About Gunpoint Assault


    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/sports/olympics/police-say-ryan-lochte-lied-about-gunpoint-assault.html?_r=1
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    Aug 18, 2016 9:17 PM GMT
    I don't know what and whom to believe anymore because the facts are so screwed up. This has become a geopolitical and public relations nightmare.
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    Aug 19, 2016 12:11 AM GMT
    The swimmers committed an act of vandalism, pissed on the floor, then tried to bribe compensate the owner of the gas station with the little change they had. The act, however small (no big material damages), is still illegal and any Brazilian behaving like that in USA would face severe consequences. But those Americans, out of sheer contempt, thought they could behave like animals as if Rio's violence justified their own. Then tried to flee the country -- why the haste I wonder...

    CCTV footage didn't show any sign of a robbery and even TMZ's spin that the footage was edited doesn't hold much water as all footage after the supposedly edited segment doesn't show any signs of a recent robbery (people are calm, going in and out the convenience store, no police cars to verify the scene, swimmers themselves were strangely calm and playful coming back to the village...)

    Vandalism by foreigners doesn't ruffle feathers in Brazil. It's the condescending attitude of the athletes who think local law doesn't apply to them, the attempt to escape justice by flying back to USA and the skeptical attitude of American media portraying the swimmers as saints and Cariocas as amoral criminals what has really offended the people of Rio.

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    Aug 19, 2016 12:52 AM GMT
    I don't know about the other three swimmers but Ryan Lochte is a 32 year old grown man, hardly a "kid doing vandalism" described in this article, our political election cycle looks bad enough to other countries, we can add another American black eye icon_confused.gif




    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/u-s-swimmers-gunnar-bentz-jack-conger-detained-at-rio-airport-012220711.html

    “No [apologies] from [Lochte] or other athletes are needed,” IOC Rio Games spokesperson Mario Andrada said. “We have to understand that these kids were trying to have fun. They came here, they represent their country to the best of their ability. They train for years. They competed under gigantic pressure. I understand they’re under investigation. I can’t go much further into the details.

    “But let’s give these kids a break. Sometimes you take actions that you later regret. Lochte is one of the best swimmers of all times. They had fun, they made a mistake, life goes on.”
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    Aug 19, 2016 1:34 AM GMT
    Acting like British soccer fans.

    It would be good for everyone if they got 30 days in a Brazilian jail for lying in a police investigation.
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    Aug 19, 2016 1:39 AM GMT
    ELNathB said“But let’s give these kids a break. Sometimes you take actions that you later regret. Lochte is one of the best swimmers of all times. They had fun, they made a mistake, life goes on.”


    No problem with this remark except for the fact that anyone doing the same in US would face harsh consequences. #doublestandards
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Aug 19, 2016 1:42 AM GMT
    The thing I don't understand about this, in Lochte's case. He has millions of dollars in endorsements waiting in the wings. I googled it and the guy is already worth 3 million dollars. Why would he want to screw that up with a trumped up story?
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    Aug 19, 2016 1:45 AM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidWhy would he want to screw that up with a trumped up story?


    Because he was confident we would all be fooled.
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    Aug 19, 2016 1:14 PM GMT
    Now that we have the facts, including a video of the incident, I think the Brazilian authorities are not completely faultless. If they had released the complete video of the incident, this would not have become such a major media event. Instead, there was a deliberate attempt to suppress a portion of the video. I suppose they didn't want to release the entire video because it showed that Ryan Lochte's version of the facts was not completely false--for example, there were people with guns, a gun was pointed at Lochte, the men were not police officers, Lochte and his gang were forced to hit the ground, money changed hands, etc. There's no question, however, that Lochte and his gang instigated the incident by vandalizing the gas station and then lying to cover up a bad deed. These Olympic athletes, Lochte in particular, are an embarrassment to this country and they should be promptly disciplined. Did these athletes think that they could hide the truth in this day and age of ubiquitous video cameras?
  • tj85016

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    Aug 19, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
    apparently, Lochte is just a dumb, low-life dirt bag
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 19, 2016 1:36 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidapparently, Lochte is just a dumb, low-life dirt bag
    Isnt Lochte a little too old for this juvenile bullshit?
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    Aug 19, 2016 4:03 PM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThe thing I don't understand about this, in Lochte's case. He has millions of dollars in endorsements waiting in the wings. I googled it and the guy is already worth 3 million dollars. Why would he want to screw that up with a trumped up story?


    That is what everyone is wondering. He said he didn't report the "robbery" because he was afraid they would get in trouble. In trouble for what? Getting robbed? It doesn't make sense.
    The whole story only came up because he lied to his mother and she told U.S. journalists that Lochte had been robbed...
    In Brazil there are rumors that they had female company that night and that the lie was an alibi to cover the athlete's cheating. That's not hard to believe for Brazil is not only known for its violence...
  • Destinharbor

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    Aug 19, 2016 4:14 PM GMT
    Motivation for the elaborate story is still a head scratcher. Lochte is not very bright and he has been kept from "real life" because of his talent (and work ethic) but to go the the police with a fabricated story? Why would anyone do that? And the other guys? I guess we'll find out in time.
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    Aug 19, 2016 5:21 PM GMT
    With the amount of CCTV, smartphone location data and other tracking technology around these days, even being a good liar will rarely cut it. Those amateurs never had a chance. By telling this tale, Lochte probably thought he could increase his kudos at home and he probably had enough influence over his younger team mates for them to go along with his idiotic scheme.
  • Destinharbor

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    Aug 19, 2016 7:05 PM GMT
    But being robbed at gunpoint by fake police doesn't exactly make you look good in any way. Or raise your endorsement capital. Still seems like there's something missing.
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    Aug 20, 2016 12:49 AM GMT
    Destinharbor saidBut being robbed at gunpoint by fake police doesn't exactly make you look good in any way. Or raise your endorsement capital. Still seems like there's something missing.


    The ones pointing guns were security guards doing their job. In Brazil security guards can carry guns legally and can point them at vandals and bandits who threaten people or property they are surveilling. Actual shooting is only allowed if they're dealing with armed criminals, otherwise they face criminal charges. The swimmers tried to bribe their way out, which they then painted as a "robbery". I believe the owner of the gas station was wrong and unusual in accepting the change they offered as compensation. He should have just let the authorities indict them and seek compensation in court, but Brazilian justice is notoriously slow and he might have thought this would go nowhere.
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    Aug 20, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
    This thug's ass should be in a Brazilian jail now.
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    Aug 20, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThe thing I don't understand about this, in Lochte's case. He has millions of dollars in endorsements waiting in the wings. I googled it and the guy is already worth 3 million dollars. Why would he want to screw that up with a trumped up story?


    My guess....he's trying to revive his reality tv show career.
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    Aug 22, 2016 10:59 PM GMT
    Ryan Lochte: Speedo and Ralph Lauren among four to end sponsorship

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37159288