Stuff racists say

  • smegnificient

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    Aug 19, 2016 3:25 AM GMT
    For a gay site where most members would have a better understanding of discrimination and inequality than the general population, way too many members are saying these things with a straight face. No wonder America is stupid.

    "All Lives Matter" - We know that blacks are arrested/imprisoned/killed/etc more for the same behaviour as other races, so it comes from the fairly obvious observation that black lives seem to matter less. It's like a dinner where when Steve didn't get any food, he says "Steve deserves food", and you answer him with "Everyone deserves food". It's true everyone deserves food, but Steve's point is he didn't get any food.

    "Other races can be racist too" - Sure, if they actually believe their race is superior. This is only ever said by racists to excuse their own racism. Racism is believing that one race is superior to another. Resenting a race one believes to be oppressing them isn't racism even when it's misguided. Conversely, black guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior, thus are racist (albeit against themselves).

    "Black on black violence!" - It's poor on poor violence, and blacks are far poorer. The point can be made if you can still get a measurable disproportionality after comparing the crime rates of different races within the same income bracket, and adjusted for the fact that blacks are 30% more likely to be convicted, and who-knows-how-much more likely to be arrested in the first place.

    I'm sure there are more...
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    Aug 19, 2016 3:42 AM GMT
    tons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.
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    Aug 19, 2016 3:52 AM GMT
    Lol, I think the only place in North America where an ethnic minority truly believe themselves to be superior is Vancouver. I've seen so many "Asian only" profiles when I was there. The Asians there also own all the wealth in town, and in some of their high end malls, the only whites to be found are the janitors. icon_eek.gif
  • christastic

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    Aug 19, 2016 4:38 AM GMT
    ^^lol it's true. Even in America... yellow power:

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    Aug 19, 2016 4:58 AM GMT
    SamJonesBroFinally, someone with a clear and present mind.


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    Aug 19, 2016 5:07 AM GMT
    SamJonesBro said
    Ekho said
    SamJonesBroFinally, someone with a clear and present mind.


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    Do you really want to do this?


    What? You're the unhinged lunatic who just expressed how you would like to see live beheadings in another thread.
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    Aug 19, 2016 5:18 AM GMT
    SamJonesBro said
    Ekho said
    SamJonesBro said
    Ekho said
    SamJonesBroFinally, someone with a clear and present mind.


    Identified by a nutcase


    Do you really want to do this?


    What? You're the unhinged lunatic who just expressed how you would like to see live beheadings in another thread.


    There is nothing lunatic about punishment for crimes against humanity. Now what is crazy is denying your Hispanic heritage running and shouting to the world that you are purely white, when you don't even look 100% percent white.

    They don't like your kind in AmeriKKKa and once Trump is in office, get ready for that deportation.


    smh
  • mwolverine

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    Aug 19, 2016 6:35 AM GMT
    For a gay site, you could have analogized to people responding "all teens matter" in response to a campaign to raise awareness about gay teen suicides.

    I'm going to disagree with you somewhat here:

    smegnificient> "Other races can be racist too" - Sure, if they actually believe their race is superior. This is only ever said by racists to excuse their own racism. Racism is believing that one race is superior to another. Resenting a race one believes to be oppressing them isn't racism even when it's misguided.

    You have to distinguish between institutionalized racism and individual racism.
    In the former case, minorities can't be "racist too".
    (Though that can be true within a limited scope, at a departmental level so to speak.)

    I'm not really sure what you mean by "resent", but racism isn't just being prejudiced against a group but the bigotry of not seeing a person as an individual but as a member of a group. So if you see/resent me as the oppressor simply based on the color of my skin... that's racism. That's why it's misguided.


    smegnificient> black guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior

    What if they only slept with Latinos?

  • ignaceqbc

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    Aug 19, 2016 11:56 PM GMT
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be
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    Aug 20, 2016 12:28 AM GMT
    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be


    Lmao stfu
    ever heard of the word cracker icon_lol.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    people are racist from all races
  • Eleven

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    Aug 20, 2016 3:41 AM GMT
    Personally I think the police have a hard job to do in america right now, I dont agree with choosing a job that puts you in harms way and I don't agree with police brutality but...

    People need to stop resisting arrest, if a cop tells you to get out of your vehicle you need to be like "absolutely officer I value my life I will gladly get out and do what u say"

    Simple as that, there needs to be education on peoples rights and whats happening, would it hurt if the fucking president made a statement telling the public to co operate with police?

    Its actually NOT racist to say all lives matter because they do.
    Youre thinking that the context of the statement derails the argument and dilutes it but in actual fact perpetuating black lives matter is just going to create more polarising and separation.

    Im not saying the police are always right and dont have a chip on their shouldet but its fucking time for your bubblewrap nation to take responsibilty and be fucking accountable for their behaviour,,,

    All your culture is good at doing is protesting, exercising your shitty ammendments, war and being manipulated by the government.
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    Aug 23, 2016 4:57 AM GMT
    mwolverine saidFor a gay site, you could have analogized to people responding "all teens matter" in response to a campaign to raise awareness about gay teen suicides.

    I'm going to disagree with you somewhat here:

    smegnificient> "Other races can be racist too" - Sure, if they actually believe their race is superior. This is only ever said by racists to excuse their own racism. Racism is believing that one race is superior to another. Resenting a race one believes to be oppressing them isn't racism even when it's misguided.

    You have to distinguish between institutionalized racism and individual racism.
    In the former case, minorities can't be "racist too".
    (Though that can be true within a limited scope, at a departmental level so to speak.)

    I'm not really sure what you mean by "resent", but racism isn't just being prejudiced against a group but the bigotry of not seeing a person as an individual but as a member of a group. So if you see/resent me as the oppressor simply based on the color of my skin... that's racism. That's why it's misguided.


    smegnificient> black guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior

    What if they only slept with Latinos?



    Well everyone knows the gay racial totem pole lol. In a post-racial world, people sleep with whatever race, and no preferential pattern emerges. But we know the pattern is very clear.

    Also, you're mixing up racism with prejudice
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    Aug 23, 2016 11:08 AM GMT
    Eleven saidPersonally I think the police have a hard job to do in america right now, I dont agree with choosing a job that puts you in harms way and I don't agree with police brutality but...

    People need to stop resisting arrest, if a cop tells you to get out of your vehicle you need to be like "absolutely officer I value my life I will gladly get out and do what u say"

    Simple as that, there needs to be education on peoples rights and whats happening, would it hurt if the fucking president made a statement telling the public to co operate with police?

    Its actually NOT racist to say all lives matter because they do.
    Youre thinking that the context of the statement derails the argument and dilutes it but in actual fact perpetuating black lives matter is just going to create more polarising and separation.

    Im not saying the police are always right and dont have a chip on their shouldet but its fucking time for your bubblewrap nation to take responsibilty and be fucking accountable for their behaviour,,,

    All your culture is good at doing is protesting, exercising your shitty ammendments, war and being manipulated by the government.


    You have a lot of audacity talking about our country and calling our US Constitution the s-word. You're not even an American citizen, nor do you live in America.

    You have no real world experience in our daily lives--so please keep your generalizations to yourself.

    BLM is a campaign to target individuals who are on the borderline of racism. This campaign hopes to make people think twice before simply pulling a trigger. If you can see similarities in another person--it's usually more difficult to dehumanize them.

    BLM hopes to show that not every black person is a "thug" or "stereotypical aggressive black man or woman"--that these men and women have families, hopes, and dreams just like every other human being.
  • mwolverine

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    Aug 23, 2016 1:01 PM GMT
    Aqueerius said
    mwolverine said
    racism isn't just being prejudiced against a group but the bigotry of not seeing a person as an individual but as a member of a group. So if you see/resent me as the oppressor simply based on the color of my skin... that's racism. That's why it's misguided.

    you're mixing up racism with prejudice

    How so?
  • christastic

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    Aug 25, 2016 2:54 AM GMT
    Racism is defined by a hierachy. You can be prejudiced against a race without thinking they're a superior or inferior race. For example, in Vancouver a lot of whites resent the Chinese for buying up all the best property, not assimilating, and having expensive car accidents on our streets. Here, an asian guy in a german car is about 50 times more likely to be pulled over for the same traffic offense icon_lol.gif
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    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be



    Apparently, Asians can be idiots though. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Radd said
    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be



    Apparently, Asians can be idiots though. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Blacks, Spanish, and Asians can be racist as well--it's not a one way street.

    If you're specifically talking about the gay community in the US. Whites tend to dominate the gay community. BUT this has also caused some minorities to avoid dating white guys... Some people like to go against the grain, think indie music and movies, I'm a guy of equal opportunity. Genuine love is hard enough to find--so why limit yourself to a specific race...

    BUT with that being said I tend to go for Spanish and Asian guys--simply because I'm sick of how glorified white guys are in this community. 80% of the time the Man of the Day on RealJock is ALWAYS white--yawn...

    My ex-Spanish boyfriend's natural body was such a huge turn on (no white guys natural body odor ever turned me on so much)... I'm still friends with him and his aunt icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 31, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    Radd said
    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be

    He is being sarcastic if you don't get the joke.


    Apparently, Asians can be idiots though. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 04, 2016 7:35 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    Radd said
    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be



    Apparently, Asians can be idiots though. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Blacks, Spanish, and Asians can be racist as well--it's not a one way street.

    If you're specifically talking about the gay community in the US. Whites tend to dominate the gay community. BUT this has also caused some minorities to avoid dating white guys... Some people like to go against the grain, think indie music and movies, I'm a guy of equal opportunity. Genuine love is hard enough to find--so why limit yourself to a specific race...

    BUT with that being said I tend to go for Spanish and Asian guys--simply because I'm sick of how glorified white guys are in this community. 80% of the time the Man of the Day on RealJock is ALWAYS white--yawn...

    My ex-Spanish boyfriend's natural body was such a huge turn on (no white guys natural body odor ever turned me on so much)... I'm still friends with him and his aunt icon_smile.gif

    Spanish is white too! Where do you guys learn all these stuff from?
    So are the middle eastern guys, Italians, Germans. White people didn't pop out of thin air in America.
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    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be


    Oh is that because we are the White Privileged. How racist, Racisem is not a one way street; it's a freeway.
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    Sep 04, 2016 7:56 AM GMT
    Blue lives matter.

    As a Bona Fide Homosexual, one feels equal, as my sexuality does not define one as a whole. One was also born a male True Blue Aussie, white as the driven snow, and blond.
  • ANTiSociaLiNJ...

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    Sep 04, 2016 8:24 AM GMT
    smegnificient said No wonder America is stupid.


    You always insult your mother country. Since America has been so horrible for you, by all means - LEAVE. No need to endure such disappointment day after day.

    Maybe try Russia or Iraq. I hear Sub-Saharan Africa is especially nice this time of year for gay, socially inept justice twats such as yourself.
  • mcbrion

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    Sep 04, 2016 11:44 AM GMT
    Ekho said
    ignaceqbc said
    Ekho saidtons of people are racist and they come from all racial profiles ignoring this to be true is a case of ignorance and I wouldn't be mistaken into believing otherwise,

    Smegmaficientblack guys who only sleep with whites for example, would be playing into the idea that they are inferior


    In gay relationships or straight ones?
    Cus if it's two guys that could go both ways.


    Asian and black can not be racist, only White can be


    Lmao stfu
    ever heard of the word cracker icon_lol.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    people are racist from all races


    The definition of racism is a bit more than you have stated: it is the suppressing of the inherent nobility of a people by those people in a position of power to cause harm, thru physical, financial and emotional means to the lives of a ethnicity believed to be "less than"...

    Unless the other people are in a position of power, your statement is more what people tell themselves, not the historical truthfulness of the matter.

    I usually shake my head at the last statement you wrote. Muslims, for example could be racist - if they live in Indonesia, where they are the ruling party. They canNOT be racist in the US, where they have little to no power to affect laws and put all, say, Blacks, under curfew after 6. They can be prejudiced (an a priori attitude towards a selected group) or bigoted. The definition of "racist" however, is an incorrect appellation in this case.
    People certainly have a great defense system in place to say, "Well, he/she's racist, TOO."
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    Sep 04, 2016 6:40 PM GMT
    UMayNeverKnow said^Things black people say and the mental gymnastics they go through to insist they're not racists and that, in fact, it's just impossible for them to be.

    You could call it semantic hair splitting.
  • mwolverine

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    Sep 04, 2016 7:11 PM GMT
    mcbrion said
    The definition of racism is a bit more than you have stated: it is the suppressing of the inherent nobility of a people by those people in a position of power to cause harm, thru physical, financial and emotional means to the lives of a ethnicity believed to be "less than"...

    Muslims, for example could be racist - if they live in Indonesia, where they are the ruling party. They canNOT be racist in the US, where they have little to no power to affect laws and put all, say, Blacks, under curfew after 6. They can be prejudiced (an a priori attitude towards a selected group) or bigoted. The definition of "racist" however, is an incorrect appellation in this case.

    Thus my comments above:
    You have to distinguish between institutionalized racism and individual racism.
    In the former case, minorities can't be "racist too".
    (Though that can be true within a limited scope, at a departmental level so to speak.)

    It is possible that in (the scope of) Detroit there is institutionalized anti-white racism, and that in Dearborn (in theory, I'm not sure of the exact demographics/power) there is institutionalized racism by Muslims (or in Salt Lake City by Mormons).