US election: Has Donald Trump already blown it?

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    Aug 29, 2016 11:01 AM GMT
    Last summer, Donald Trump could do no wrong. What a difference a year makes.

    A key difference between last year's summer of Trumpian love and the dog days of the past few weeks is that the electorate he is seeking to woo has changed, but the billionaire continues to rely on his old seductive tricks.

    Campaigning for the presidency is not the same as campaigning for the presidential nomination. The demographics are vastly different - in most primary states, more than 90% of Republican voters were white. Wild statements come under greater scrutiny when voters are choosing a commander in chief as opposed to be a party nominee. Temperament looms larger. With so much more at stake, voters are more mindful that the finger punching out those ill-tempered Tweets could soon be hovering above the nuclear button.

    For Donald Trump, that calculus that worked for him in the Republican primaries no longer seems to work.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37102763
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    Aug 29, 2016 1:10 PM GMT
    Hardly surprising that a Republican candidate would have a higher popularity rating when the poll is taken of Republican Party members compared to the entire electorate.

    Ignoring conventional wisdom has paid off for him in the past and that has led him to trust his instincts over experts in the field. Brings to mind the saying "He who represents himself [in court] has a fool for a client".
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    Aug 29, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
    "Last summer, Donald Trump could do no wrong. What a difference a year makes."

    i hope so
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    Aug 29, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    For Donald Trump, that calculus that worked for him in the Republican primaries no longer seems to work.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37102763

    And I predicted about a year ago that Trump would be Hillary's best opponent, if she became the Democratic nominee as many expected. Best for Hillary, that is, not for Republicans.

    If you've seen The Donald in action before you could have predicted his nutty behavior on the campaign trail. Assuming that one can predict the unpredictable, except to expect it's gonna happen, in irrational ways.

    I said Trump would self-destruct on the campaign against a Democrat like Hillary. And so he's doing. His campaign staff is trying to rein him in, and conceal his craziness from voters. Trump is doing a far better job of destroying his own chances of election than Hillary is doing against him.

    Meanwhile his supporters are proving they can be even crazier than their nominee. Both nationally and here on RJ. With wild unsupportable charges against Clinton, trying desperately to deflect attention from The Donald's serious behavioral flaws and inventing some new imaginary scandals against Hillary.

    Unfortunately for them it mainly only works with the least critical thinkers of the voter demographic. In other words, their own existing Republican base. The undereducated who can't think, and the over-rich who won't think. But rather look the other way, the wealthy fixated on what they perceive to be their own best short-term financial interests, not the long-term interests of the entire country.

    But that only guarantees their failure in November, which is fine by me. The nutjobs here trying to be nuttier than their hero The Donald will only drag the entire ticket down, another nice consequence.

    Yes, Trump has not only already blown the election for himself, but for other Republicans. Many are running for cover, trying to save their political jobs. For Dems, Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. But he is divisive, and the wounds he's opening will take years to heal.
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    Aug 29, 2016 2:50 PM GMT
    The calculus to which you refer was NEVER going to work in the general election. It was designed to pander to the lowest common denominator, and that does not include thoughtful, reasonable Americans who truly love this country.
  • tazzari

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    Aug 29, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
    The thought of Trump blowing anything is enough too turn the strongest stomach - but I'm willing to make an exception for the election.
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    Aug 29, 2016 5:55 PM GMT
    He's not just lost it among the general public but even within his own party, possibly partly because they are finally waking up to that his shenanigans is his substance.

    During the primary they could write a lot of that off as politicking. They'd give him not just the benefit of the doubt but we can recall many of them saying: "oh, he's just saying that." Right? "that's not really who he is," they'd say. "That's just his showmanship." And then in trying to justify his bullshit, they bought into their own bullshit. Just as he used their own bullshit to stage himself as their Miss America.

    But as the floodlights melt his orange makeup, underneath they finally begin to see that there is nothing but more of the same. He was showing who he was the entire time. That was not an act. That's who the guy is. And that's why Hillary quoted Maya Angelou that when "someone shows you who they are, believe them".

    As they see their Jesus can not walk upon water, they begin to believe that maybe he isn't all he pretended to be and so they leave the religion of Trump to seek another.

    It's not so much that he's blown it--Trump was just being himself, a clown sent in--but that the Republican party has blown it (as this was their game) for they have already passed too many deadlines and too many are soon to be up to register a real GOP candidate for president onto states ballots. So for the most part it's game over. The only thing that could happen now is the Democrats could lose it for themselves by falling down on voter registration drives, or failing to get out and vote or any last minute surprise, none of which can be discounted in this weird as fuck election.

    We'll not count our chickens before they hatch, but there sure are a lot of eggs.
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    Aug 30, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
    Its really unexplainable as to how white supremacy came to the modern forefront, like the second coming. This is something my parents generation went through when they were in their early to mid 20's. This known (150 year old) hate group has either lingered around for several decades "waiting for the right moment to make a comeback", or Trump and or his republican party, establishment or tea party are evil trolls that used the dark side force magic to conjure a sleeping giant, in reaction to the first black man president. Its the only explanation I have, its unbelievable that this group is now getting TV face time icon_eek.gif

    To all Americans: Just remember that you can keep these people out of congress, the people who "make the laws" for everyone...


    David Duke Records Robocall Urging Voters To Back Both Him And Trump (AUDIO)
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/david-duke-trump-robocalls

    David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader mounting a comeback run as a Republican for U.S. Senate in Louisiana, has sent out robocalls urging voters to cast their ballots for him and Donald Trump in order to take back the country




  • mwolverine

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    Aug 30, 2016 3:27 AM GMT
    OMFG. He looks like a zombie.
    Did he get his work done by a closeted, black or Jewish doctor?
    (By which I do not mean to assail the plastic surgeon's skill, I'm suggesting they lightly botched the job on purpose.)

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  • mwolverine

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    Aug 30, 2016 3:32 AM GMT
    Obviously there is a lot of time left on the clock.
    And the debates (how will Trump's theatrics play to the general electorate?)
    And the possibility of a real "October surprise" and scandal.

    But as it stands, Hillary has not just a 6% lead in the polls but a lead of maybe 100 electoral votes.
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    Aug 30, 2016 3:51 AM GMT
    ELNathB saidIts really unexplainable as to how white supremacy came to the modern forefront....


    Don't kid yourself. They've been there the entire time. The only thing that's changed is that now they are taking off their hoods.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 30, 2016 2:18 PM GMT
    NOT....SO.....FAST.

    Polls tightening


    More Wikileaks Coming


    3 Debates on the horizon


    Thinking in "Conventional Terms" THIS election probably not a wise bet.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 30, 2016 2:56 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNOT....SO.....FAST.

    Polls tightening


    More Wikileaks Coming


    3 Debates on the horizon


    Thinking in "Conventional Terms" THIS election probably not a wise bet.
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