NASA Warns Of Mass Extinction If We Don't Fix Climate Change

  • metta

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    Aug 31, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
  • metta

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    Sep 01, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
    Nasa: Earth is warming at a pace 'unprecedented in 1,000 years'
    Records of temperature that go back far further than 1800s suggest warming of recent decades is out of step with any period over the past millennium

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/aug/30/nasa-climate-change-warning-earth-temperature-warming
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    Sep 01, 2016 12:57 AM GMT
    NASA has a lot of nerve. How about stop wasting money on the search for water on Mars and worry about providing clean drinking water for the people here on Earth.
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    Sep 01, 2016 12:58 AM GMT
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    Sep 01, 2016 5:50 AM GMT
    This would be the same NASA that sends near-sighted multi-million dollar telescopes into space ... as well as group-thinking its way into the idea that launching the Challenger shuttle was a good plan?

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    Sep 01, 2016 2:21 PM GMT
    It's great that our agencies keep us informed and great @ how they get it wrong:-) I believe Earth has suffered 5 mass extinctions all before human presence due 2 natural cataclysms. We play a part in the future but so do forces beyond our control. The colonization of space can insure the continuation of our species.
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    Sep 01, 2016 2:23 PM GMT
    Climate change deniers in Congress, virtually all of whom are Repubes, don't believe in science. They will continue to deny the negative effects of global warming and climate change in the face of indisputable, verifiable facts.
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    Sep 01, 2016 4:56 PM GMT
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    Sep 01, 2016 6:57 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidThis would be the same NASA that sends near-sighted multi-million dollar telescopes into space ... as well as group-thinking its way into the idea that launching the Challenger shuttle was a good plan?


    Never mind that NASA gave us Hubble, the International Space Station and Apollo 11.

    Is your morbid point that the Challenger disaster was caused by an O-ring likely designed during Republican Ford's administration and certainly failed during Republican Reagan's administration? Or is your point that the cause of the Challenger disaster was...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_fever...the tendency as individuals to be overly committed to a previously chosen course of action based on time and resources already expended (sunk costs) despite reduced or insufficient future benefits, or even considerable risks...

    ...which would make sense to apply to altering course in the face of new knowledge, how? Oh, that's right. This is the opposite of that because "go fever" would be to continue in the direction of the ethos held before the numbers came in on climate change. Just as we'd previously, stupidly but at first ignorantly and then greedily polluted our own air and as we poisoned our own rivers before we better understood and then finally stood against those laissez-faire capitalistic processes, you'd have us destroy our climate even now that we begin together to understand that which you'd seek to critique as group think what thoughts would save us from another one of your impending O-rung disasters? Fuck that.

    Your analogy is rejected; please stop being so despicable, thank you.
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    Sep 02, 2016 12:39 AM GMT
    desertmuscl saidThis would be the same NASA that sends near-sighted multi-million dollar telescopes into space ... as well as group-thinking its way into the idea that launching the Challenger shuttle was a good plan? privatize NASA

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    COINCIDENTALLY TODAY...
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/92dd9cd24d6444c4a93855dd25e6d0c1/explosion-rocks-spacex-launch-site-florida-during-testExplosion at SpaceX launch pad destroys rocket

    A massive fireball and explosion erupted Thursday at SpaceX's main launch pad, destroying a rocket as well as a satellite that Facebook was counting on to spread internet service in Africa.

    There were no injuries. The pad had been cleared of workers before what was supposed to be a routine pre-launch rocket engine test.

    SpaceX chief Elon Musk said the accident occurred while the rocket was being fueled and originated around the upper-stage oxygen tank.

    "Cause still unknown," Musk said via Twitter. "More soon."

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceXSpace Exploration Technologies Corporation, better known as SpaceX, is an American aerospace manufacturer and space transport services company headquartered in Hawthorne, California, United States. It was founded in 2002 by former PayPal entrepreneur and Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk with the goal of creating the technologies to reduce space transportation costs and enable the colonization of Mars....

    ...SpaceX began a privately-funded reusable launch system technology development program in 2011 and, in December 2015, successfully returned a first stage back to a landing pad near the launch site and accomplished a propulsive vertical landing....
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    Sep 02, 2016 1:18 AM GMT
    NASA Warns Of Mass Extinction If We Don't Fix Climate Change???

    CHINA? next
    INDIA? next
    ......It's already happening in Africa.

    Good? Bad? Sad? Who protected the Dinos when climate change hit them?

    Nature is out of our control?? Or is it??
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    Sep 02, 2016 1:50 AM GMT
    Climate change? Probably.
    Moon landing, 1969? OH FUCK NO!
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    Sep 02, 2016 6:15 AM GMT
    The hubris needed to believe we can actually accurately model climate is astounding. The emperor has no clothes.

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    Sep 02, 2016 6:50 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidThe hubris needed to believe we can actually accurately model climate is astounding. The emperor has no clothes.


    Is hubris a big word for someone who doesn't seem to know the difference between modeling and measuring?

    Modeling shows potentials and even that is getting quite good. Just look at how well we track most hurricanes now. Being able to predict, to model, based on what we've already measured and assessed saves millions if not billions (I don't have those figures) of dollars--plus lives--in just this one situation by being able to predict, to model, not just where a hurricane might make landfall but also where it will not. Because those who won't be hit don't have to spend that money in preparation. While people who models indicate should shutter homes and businesses might be saved expenses of cleanup which can be extensive.

    So it is not at all hubris "to believe we can actually accurately model climate". In fact it is not just practical & utilitarian but relied upon. And if you live in a hurricane zone as have I most of my life, then you'd know how wonderfully accurate modeling is, actually.

    Granted when we're talking about world wide systems, not just isolated hurricanes, though those are impacted upon by surrounding systems, the modeling gets more complex and for now that is not as exactly predictable as we might prefer though models get better over time with inputting more info. But the measuring still is scientifically taken. The modeling is just bonus with purchase. It is the measuring which informs us. There is no hubris to that whatsoever. Measurement is mathematics: you can leave your hysteria at the door.
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    Sep 03, 2016 3:26 AM GMT
    Noam Chomsky: Climate Change & Nuclear Proliferation Pose the Worst Threat Ever Faced by Humans

    http://www.democracynow.org/2016/5/16/noam_chomsky_climate_change_nuclear_proliferation