Miami vs. Ft. Lauderdale

  • Sexynripped

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    Sep 11, 2016 11:10 PM GMT
    I'm flying to Miami on 10/1 (staying in South Beach, not going into the city) and flying home from Ft. Lauderdale the night of 10/4. I need some help figuring out how to divide my time. I've read that many gays have moved to Ft. Lauderdale, so I'm not sure if I should spend more time there or visa versa. What do you recommend? Appreciate your help, guys.
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    Sep 12, 2016 12:11 AM GMT
    I like both. You could spend all four days in either location and have a great time. Fort Lauderdale is more laid back and less expensive.

    FYI.....if you dine out in Miami, they "preload" an 18% tip onto your bill. So your drink/food order is $100.00, the bottom line will show $118 and with a second line below that for tip #2....so you may end up giving a second tip that you're not aware of. Sneaky devils. Not all do this, so check your bill.
  • dreamcock

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    Sep 12, 2016 1:10 PM GMT
    I like going to Haulover beach (nude beach) in N Miami during the day and for gay nightlife Ft Lauderdale @night hit Ramrod and Slammers for FUN times!
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    Sep 12, 2016 1:38 PM GMT
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    I like going to Haulover beach (nude beach) in N Miami during the day and for gay nightlife Ft Lauderdale @night hit Ramrod and Slammers for FUN times!

    Sounds like a good plan. A little clarification for those wanting to map these things out:

    Haulover Park & Beach is a little north of N Miami Beach. Bracketed between the next city of Bal Harbour to Haulover's south and Sunny Isles to its north.

    Slammers and the Ramrod leather & bear bar are indeed in Fort Lauderdale, the latter just before entering the City of Wilton Manors a couple of blocks to the north. WM is the current "Gay Central" in south Florida, and lined with gay clubs, bars and restaurants.

    But if you want a little rougher trade and some active cruising then your choices are good. WM is a bit tamer, but also has food. And some gay guest houses if you want to stay overnight. Fort Lauderdale has more of them near the beach (but none on it).

    I find little to do in Miami. The arts scene is good, and I've attended ballet, concerts and the opera there. But a rather cold business downtown of big city skyscrapers, and no ocean. I prefer the City of Miami Beach 3 miles to the east, with the ocean, sandy public beaches, and the art deco district to stroll around. And the Lincoln Road open mall for more walking around or having an outdoor lunch under an umbrella table or canopy. Very Floridian.
  • Sexynripped

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    Sep 13, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
    Thanks. I updated the question to note that I'm staying in South Beach and won't be venturing into the actual city of Miami. So it's South Beach, then near the Ft. Lauderdale Beach. I looked up Slammer. Wow. So what about South Beach itself?
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    Sep 13, 2016 12:59 AM GMT
    Sexynripped saidThanks. I updated the question to note that I'm staying in South Beach and won't be venturing into the actual city of Miami. So it's South Beach, then near the Ft. Lauderdale Beach. I looked up Slammer. Wow. So what about South Beach itself?

    South Beach isn't the gay mecca it was. These things seem to keep creeping northward. Gay Central is currently centered around Wilton Manors. I have no doubt it will eventually move on.

    Regarding South Beach itself, there's isn't too much gay left there. On Ocean Drive, along the beach, you have the Palace. During the day it's basically a place to have cocktails overlooking the street scene from a raised veranda, if you can find a table.

    There's Twist, probably the biggest and hottest place currently operating on SoBe. The locals who go can be a bit on the twinky side, but throw in tourists and the curious and you get a more mixed bag. Some older, and quite a few women. Definitely NOT the Slammers or the Ramrod crowd.

    But some of those out-of-town tourists are panting to be cruised, or at least to have a dance. Yet also a big bar scene, too, and you don't have to dance to have a good time there.

    Here's a link, you can explore the rest. As for the rest, you can Google gay South Beach, see what hits you get. I don't do the gay clubs down there with any regularity. Just be aware some places are nothing more than little local neighborhood bars.

    http://twistsobe.com
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 13, 2016 6:27 PM GMT
    Sexynripped saidThanks. I updated the question to note that I'm staying in South Beach and won't be venturing into the actual city of Miami. So it's South Beach, then near the Ft. Lauderdale Beach. I looked up Slammer. Wow. So what about South Beach itself?
    Why not venture into the city of Miami itself and check it outicon_question.gif
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    Sep 16, 2016 11:47 AM GMT
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    Sexynripped saidThanks. I updated the question to note that I'm staying in South Beach and won't be venturing into the actual city of Miami. So it's South Beach, then near the Ft. Lauderdale Beach. I looked up Slammer. Wow. So what about South Beach itself?
    Why not venture into the city of Miami itself and check it outicon_question.gif

    What would you suggest he do in the City of Miami?
  • Sexynripped

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    Sep 16, 2016 8:24 PM GMT
    I decided to focus on the South Beach area. Twist and Score look like great clubs for finding hot guys to mingle with.
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    Sep 17, 2016 12:33 AM GMT
    I'm from Miami, recently returned. I never found Fort Lauderdale appealing compared to Miami, but then again going to bars and partying was never my thing, nor was living in a predominantly gay area, important in theory but not in practice to me. I find scenery important. So my opinion is you made the absolute right decision - focus on South Beach, hang at Twist and the gay beach there, and focus on the beauty of the beach and architecture, and the unequalled beach bodies without firm expectations of meeting someone (good to keep those expectations in check anywhere, actually). Maybe do one night to check out the bar scene in Wilton Manors from an anthropological point of view but to me at least, being a Miami native from a nice part of town, it's a bit overhyped and downmarket. Btw, I'm a half hour south of Sobe in the 'burbs, so if that's your thing, A Tree Grows In Pinecrest.
  • Sexynripped

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    Sep 23, 2016 1:12 AM GMT
    Thanks for your insight. Very helpful.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 03, 2017 8:24 AM GMT
    I just spent 4 days in SoBe and liked it. I was staying in a residential neighborhood and was pleased by the access to the beach (4-5 blocks) and mall as well as access to the "strip" (2-3 blocks). Didn't realize there was such a French presence (bakery, sandwich place and a croissant stand at the mall). The availability of Julius Meinl coffee (saw the sign at an Argentinian steakhouse) and Aroma Cafe were things to make mom jealous. icon_smile.gif

    Discovered the built-in 18% gratuity my first dinner but the waiter had done a good job so ended up leaving a few extra bills. Another time I was less pleased with the service, but it was happy hour and the food was half-off (and I don't drink) so while on one hand I was happy to leave it at 18% [effectively 9%] I ended up making it around 30% [15%].

    It was only my 2nd time there as an adult. I've spent more time in Fort Lauderdale. A few vacations (a tradition started during Spring Break back in college when a roommate's parents had a place down there - back in its heyday) and my annual trip to the gay football tournament there.

    Fort Lauderdale is a bit more spread out, at least from my perspective. I used to stay on the beach, but when traveling with the team that's been difficult (seems like a lot of the cheap hotels are gone). And it's not like I'm going to stumble across a French bakery there, right? (Can't even get a milkshake at the Howard Johnson's anymore.)

    Wilton Manors is nice - I like the gay shopping mall and the community feel. If only it were on the beach....

    Heading back to FLL next month for the football tournament, and for the first time we're staying in WM. So maybe I'll get another view of things.
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    Jan 03, 2017 4:36 PM GMT
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    I just spent 4 days in SoBe and liked it. I was staying in a residential neighborhood and was pleased by the access to the beach (4-5 blocks) and mall as well as access to the "strip" (2-3 blocks). Didn't realize there was such a French presence (bakery, sandwich place and a croissant stand at the mall). The availability of Julius Meinl coffee (saw the sign at an Argentinian steakhouse) and Aroma Cafe were things to make mom jealous. icon_smile.gif

    Discovered the built-in 18% gratuity my first dinner but the waiter had done a good job so ended up leaving a few extra bills. Another time I was less pleased with the service, but it was happy hour and the food was half-off (and I don't drink) so while on one hand I was happy to leave it at 18% [effectively 9%] I ended up making it around 30% [15%].

    It was only my 2nd time there as an adult. I've spent more time in Fort Lauderdale. A few vacations (a tradition started during Spring Break back in college when a roommate's parents had a place down there - back in its heyday) and my annual trip to the gay football tournament there.

    Fort Lauderdale is a bit more spread out, at least from my perspective. I used to stay on the beach, but when traveling with the team that's been difficult (seems like a lot of the cheap hotels are gone). And it's not like I'm going to stumble across a French bakery there, right? (Can't even get a milkshake at the Howard Johnson's anymore.)

    Wilton Manors is nice - I like the gay shopping mall and the community feel. If only it were on the beach....

    Heading back to FLL next month for the football tournament, and for the first time we're staying in WM. So maybe I'll get another view of things.

    In my view you make some very valid observations. The smaller old Mom & Pop hotels along Fort Lauderdale beach are gone, replaced by towering mega-hotels from the big chains.

    Some older hotels remain in the blocks behind the beachfront skyscrapers, a number of them having converted into gay hotels and "resorts" (a bit of an exaggerated stretch of the definition). Their gay guests are the ones you'll see clustered on predominately gay Sebastian Beach, named for where Sebastian Street meets N Fort Lauderdale Beach Blvd. (making it easy to find on a map).

    Not too many hotels in WM, except a few gay guest houses. May I ask you which one? We know a number of the owners.

    The advantage to staying in WM is you've got the gay night scene, to which you can walk (except from The Cabanas). Meaning no worries about driving & DUI, just bar crawl on foot and walk (stagger) back home. For the daytime beach scene you drive, taxi or Uber the 3 miles or so. The winter weather can be problematic, anyway, every day is not a beach day.

    The WM gay club demographic is mostly older. Many professionals, but more typically retired, living simply despite their wealth. Versus the Miami & Miami Beach scenes, with beautiful trendy men in their prime who look every considerable penny they're worth. Problem is they're hard to sort out from the straights, since that area has no well-defined Gay Central anymore.

    The younger crowd in WM comes out at night and weekends, not surprisingly. Younger places with dancing are The Manor on weekends, and Hunter's adjacent to the Alibi with an older shift. Alibi can be a nice mix when they have entertainment. You never want Tropics at any time, entirely geriatric. And no dancing, not enough room for those walkers.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 04, 2017 2:02 AM GMT
    Not a guest house per se, the team rented a house.
    (I want to say on 26th and that the host's name is Isaac, but I could be wrong.)

    Only 6 weeks!!
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 06, 2017 9:03 PM GMT
    Hope everyone in Fort Lauderdale is safe.
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    Not a guest house per se, the team rented a house.
    (I want to say on 26th and that the host's name is Isaac, but I could be wrong.)

    Only 6 weeks!!

    There's a house on the river directly across from our condo on the other side, that gets rented regularly for short terms by vacationers. Has its own pool, I've never seen more than 8 guests there at once. Otherwise not too many house rentals in WM.
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    mwolverine said
    Hope everyone in Fort Lauderdale is safe.

    Thanks. Everyone safe except those killed and wounded at Terminal 2, of course. I don't know anyone personally who was at the airport during this. We'll be picking-up a friend visiting us from Europe in 3 weeks, we usually go to that airport once a month on average. We live about 7-8 miles away.

    We learned of it from texts that were going out within minutes of the shooting. So we avoided driving near that area, due to roads being shut down, and resulting traffic jams.