Alexis Arquette Dead at 47

  • metta

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    Sep 12, 2016 5:48 AM GMT
    Alexis Arquette Dead at 47

    http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/11/alexis-arquette-dead-dies/

    "We held her and sang her David Bowie's 'Starman' as she punched through the veil to the other side," the family said. "We washed her body in rose petals and surrounded her with flowers."

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pioneering-transgender-actress-alexis-arquette-dies-47-n646526
  • nice_chap

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    Sep 12, 2016 10:46 AM GMT
    I remember he played Caligula in Xena Warrior Princess. Did a good job, he was totally into the show's campiness.
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    Sep 12, 2016 11:08 AM GMT
    nice_chap saidI remember he played Caligula in Xena Warrior Princess. Did a good job, he was totally into the show's campiness.

    OMG I totally forgot that was him!
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    Sep 12, 2016 1:57 PM GMT
    In this one post we run into the question I got flamed online once for for asking and told to "do my research" (which I did - and came up with no coherent answer)

    As per *most* people - we refer to a someone who identifies with a gender with the pronouns that agree with that gender, and you're not supposed to refer back to things that can contradict that.

    The point I raised was that though that's great for a relative nobody - how do you handle someone famous, for whom there are records *everywhere* of their existence, and sometimes *fame* in the other gender?

    Saying about Ms. Jenner that "she" won the "Men's" Decathlon at the olympics is a contradiction in terms - at the time "he" expressed as male, even if "she" does not now.

    In this case, "he" at the time played Caligula (a male role) whereas "she" did not? Can you refer to that without either blatantly telling a lie ("she played Caligula") or without contradicting their current gender expression ("He played Caligula")

    I mean, I know people that still have records performed by *Walter* (not Wendy) Carlos, so one can't deny they were once Walter.

    So, am I right in assuming that no matter how one addresses this, someone's knickers will be in a twist?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 12, 2016 2:43 PM GMT
    The cause of death has not been reported. Does anyone know what Alexis died of? She was so young.
  • metta

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    Sep 12, 2016 3:41 PM GMT
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    That has not been reported. I don't know if that will go public. It sounds like she may have been ill for a while.
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    Sep 12, 2016 4:47 PM GMT
    Doctor9 saidIn this one post we run into the question I got flamed online once for for asking and told to "do my research" (which I did - and came up with no coherent answer)

    As per *most* people - we refer to a someone who identifies with a gender with the pronouns that agree with that gender, and you're not supposed to refer back to things that can contradict that.

    The point I raised was that though that's great for a relative nobody - how do you handle someone famous, for whom there are records *everywhere* of their existence, and sometimes *fame* in the other gender?

    Saying about Ms. Jenner that "she" won the "Men's" Decathlon at the olympics is a contradiction in terms - at the time "he" expressed as male, even if "she" does not now.

    In this case, "he" at the time played Caligula (a male role) whereas "she" did not? Can you refer to that without either blatantly telling a lie ("she played Caligula") or without contradicting their current gender expression ("He played Caligula")

    I mean, I know people that still have records performed by *Walter* (not Wendy) Carlos, so one can't deny they were once Walter.

    So, am I right in assuming that no matter how one addresses this, someone's knickers will be in a twist?



    Do you really think interacting with other humans should be this complicated and difficult? Anyone who was born a man should not be surprised or offended when referred to as a "he." The problem is with people feeling offended by anything and everything.
  • nice_chap

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    Sep 12, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
    Doctor9 said
    In this case, "he" at the time played Caligula (a male role) whereas "she" did not? Can you refer to that without either blatantly telling a lie ("she played Caligula") or without contradicting their current gender expression ("He played Caligula")

    So, am I right in assuming that no matter how one addresses this, someone's knickers will be in a twist?


    I described him as "he" because he was a man at the time he was in Xena, and I haven't seen any of his other work since. I didn't even know he had a sex change. I'm sure she did a lot of great things that I'm unaware of after taking on a female identity (it even says something about her stepping away from fame to live a more private life as a woman), but to me he was a man who acted in a couple of movies and TV shows and that's the only way I associated with him.
  • metta

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    Sep 12, 2016 5:24 PM GMT
    Courteney Cox Shares Touching Message Honoring Alexis Arquette After Her Death: 'We Will Love and Miss You Forever'

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/courteney-cox-shares-touching-message-honoring-alexis-arquette-after-her-death-we-will-love-and-miss-you-forever/ar-AAiNyuU?ocid=iehp

    'She Taught Us Tolerance and Acceptance': The Arquette Family Remembers Alexis in Her Final Days

    "Our sister, Alexis Arquette, passed away this morning, September 11th, 2016," they said.






    "Alexis was a brilliant artist and painter, a singer, an entertainer and an actor. She starred in movies like Last Exit to Brooklyn, Pulp Fiction, Jumpin' at the Boneyard, Of Mice and Men, The Wedding Singer, and The Bride of Chucky. Her career was cut short, not by her passing, but by her decision to live her truth and her life as a transgender woman. Despite the fact that there are few parts for trans actors, she refused to play roles that were demeaning or stereotypical. She was a vanguard in the fight for understanding and acceptance for all trans people.

    "She fiercely lived her reality in a world where it is dangerous to be a trans person – a world largely unready to accept differences among human beings, and where there is still the ugliness of violence and hostility towards people that we may not understand.

    "Alexis was born as Robert, our brother. We loved him the moment he arrived. But he came in as more than a sibling – he came as our great teacher. As Alexis transitioned into being a woman, she taught us tolerance and acceptance. As she moved through her process, she became our sister, teaching us what real love is.

    "We learned what real bravery is through watching her journey of living as a trans woman. We came to discover the one truth – that love is everything.

    "In the days leading to her death, she told us she was already visiting the other side, and that where she was going, there was only one gender. That on the other side, we are free from all of the things that separate us in this life, and that we are all one. She passed away surrounded by love. We held her and sang her David Bowie's 'Starman' as she punched through the veil to the other side. We washed her body in rose petals and surrounded her with flowers.

    "Alexis always had to do everything first. She left before we were ready to let her go. We are all heartbroken that she is no longer with us, but we are grateful for the grace and kindness we were all shown during this difficult time. We are comforted by the fact that Alexis came into our family and was our brother and then our sister, and that she gave us so much love. We will love you always, Alexis. We know we were the lucky ones.

    "The family asks that in lieu of flowers or gifts, donations please be sent to organizations that support the LGBTQ community in honor of Alexis Arquette. Please respect our privacy during this time of grieving."


    http://www.people.com/article/alexis-arquette-dead-family-statement
  • Apparition

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    Sep 13, 2016 2:10 AM GMT
    metta said^
    That has not been reported. I don't know if that will go public. It sounds like she may have been ill for a while.

    AIDS related complications according to wikipedia.
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    Sep 13, 2016 3:54 AM GMT

    I had no idea he/she was this 'Damien' character in Bride of Chucky, ive seen this several times, hope they eventually give the cause, RIP


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  • metta

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    Sep 13, 2016 4:43 AM GMT
    Apparition said
    metta said^
    That has not been reported. I don't know if that will go public. It sounds like she may have been ill for a while.

    AIDS related complications according to wikipedia.



    Alexis Arquette’s Cause Of Death Reportedly AIDS-Related Complications
    The actress and activist died Sunday surrounded by her family.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alexis-arquettes-cause-of-death-reportedly-aids-related-complications_us_57d70fdbe4b0fbd4b7bad69d

    http://www.people.com/article/alexis-arquette-died-complications-aids
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 13, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
    Apparition said
    AIDS related complications according to wikipedia.


    I had a feeling that was the case but I didn't want to assume anything. I used to see him (before he was a her) all the time around L.A. when I lived there. What's interesting about Alexis's AIDS is that it's reported that he was HIV + for 20 years but refused taking any sort of treatment. RIP Alexis
  • venue35

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    Sep 15, 2016 9:33 AM GMT
    I thought that was strange as well..
    She looked very healthy.
    And i don't think many people die from aids when they are taking their medication and looking after their health i mean we have come along way since the 80's so i thought that the cause of death was strange.
    I had seen some episodes of the surreal life and she was being harrassed in public and would really freak out and even though it was a reality show i thought that she was putting herself in really stressful situations for the sake of television.
  • MuscledHorse

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    Sep 19, 2016 12:20 PM GMT
    She (while still a He) was also in Andrew Fleming's movie 1993 "Threesome" (Laura Flynn Boyle, Josh Charles and Stephen Baldwin) as one of the two hilarious "Lobby Lizards" of the college dormitory where the film is set.
  • metta

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    Sep 22, 2016 7:21 PM GMT
    Alexis Arquette lived with HIV for 29 years, her death certificate reveals

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-alexis-arquette-hiv-death-certificate-20160920-snap-story.html
  • JackNNJ

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    Sep 24, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
    WestCoastJock saidWhy does the death certificate list Male for her gender?


    Because it hadn't transitioned. It was in the process, I guess that's why they're called

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