Glory hole dating strategy

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    Sep 12, 2016 9:20 PM GMT
    I've been single for 8 months and things sure have changed since I was last single. I go to hipster bars and I am envious of the socalizing I see there. That is how I remembered it was with gay men but now when I contact anyone on a gay app I'm immediately told that there can be no pre - meeting just cold NSA sex as if gay dating is down to the level of glory hole only.
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:27 PM GMT
    MaleElement saidI've been single for 8 months and things sure have changed since I was last single. I go to hipster bars and I am envious of the socalizing I see there. That is how I remembered it was with gay men but now when I contact anyone on a gay app I'm immediately told that there can be no pre - meeting just cold NSA sex as if gay dating is down to the level of glory hole only.


    Your basing everything in the gay community on a hook-up app? Have you thought of a traditional dating site or even meeting people in person? In the past, I have met people in a variety of gay places. I am sure you can meet people on a hook-up but need to weed through it.
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
    Glory Hole Dating Strategy

    Is a glory hole now considered dating?
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
    I am told that apps are the only way to contact gay men in 2016. That is certainly my observation in real life with every one looking at their phones and bars only populated by groups of gay friends. Dating apps, like OK Cupid ... You have got to be kidding? Have you ever tried to use that?

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    MaleElement saidI've been single for 8 months and things sure have changed since I was last single. I go to hipster bars and I am envious of the socalizing I see there. That is how I remembered it was with gay men but now when I contact anyone on a gay app I'm immediately told that there can be no pre - meeting just cold NSA sex as if gay dating is down to the level of glory hole only.


    Your basing everything in the gay community on a hook-up app? Have you thought of a traditional dating site or even meeting people in person? In the past, I have met people in a variety of gay places. I am sure you can meet people on a hook-up but need to weed through it.
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:38 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidGlory Hole Dating Strategy

    Is a glory hole now considered dating?


    I exaggerate a bit but pretty much that is it. NSA sex before any social contact . I really don't even know how that can me pulled off. Put I kinda of tried it and it seemed the guy was desperate to have no social contact at all.
  • nice_chap

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    Sep 12, 2016 9:43 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidGlory Hole Dating Strategy

    Is a glory hole now considered dating?


    he was speaking figuratively, as in tons of men on apps just wanna see your cock without making the effort to get to know anything else about you.
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    Sep 12, 2016 9:45 PM GMT
    Don't forget craigslist; apparently it's even more seedy than the dating apps.
  • ANTiSociaLiNJ...

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    Sep 12, 2016 9:54 PM GMT
    Dang, bro. Why you be knocking glory holes 'n shi'?icon_question.gif
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    Sep 12, 2016 10:32 PM GMT
    And why would you defend them? I thought gay was about men loving men. It gay is just gonna be about sociopathic behavior I'm outta here.

    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidDang, bro. Why you be knocking glory holes 'n shi'?icon_question.gif
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    Sep 12, 2016 10:57 PM GMT
    nice_chap said
    Art_Deco saidGlory Hole Dating Strategy

    Is a glory hole now considered dating?

    he was speaking figuratively, as in tons of men on apps just wanna see your cock without making the effort to get to know anything else about you.

    Thanks. And the OP also gave a somewhat similar explanation. That it was nothing really literal.

    OK, we all express ourselves differently. I suppose the more important point isn't semantic, but rather, an apparent degradation in the quality of gay sexual encounters.

    At least in San Francisco. Which hasn't had a very good gay sexual image in quite a long time.

    In straight circles, they use SF as the "poster child" for everything that's wrong with the gay community.

    And I don't know how to overcome that, if that image is in any way accurate. I guess look harder, because I can't believe that everyone in SF is that way.

    That, or just relocate, if feasible. The cost of living, especially housing, is ridiculously overpriced anyway. I don't see that gay behavior as stated to exist as much elsewhere, except among the horny younger gay subset. To which the OP does not belong.
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    Sep 12, 2016 11:56 PM GMT
    MaleElement saidI am told that apps are the only way to contact gay men in 2016. That is certainly my observation in real life with every one looking at their phones and bars only populated by groups of gay friends. Dating apps, like OK Cupid ... You have got to be kidding? Have you ever tried to use that?

    buddycat said
    MaleElement saidI've been single for 8 months and things sure have changed since I was last single. I go to hipster bars and I am envious of the socalizing I see there. That is how I remembered it was with gay men but now when I contact anyone on a gay app I'm immediately told that there can be no pre - meeting just cold NSA sex as if gay dating is down to the level of glory hole only.


    Your basing everything in the gay community on a hook-up app? Have you thought of a traditional dating site or even meeting people in person? In the past, I have met people in a variety of gay places. I am sure you can meet people on a hook-up but need to weed through it.


    Either I'm misreading, or you're basically scoffing at OKCupid in favor of... what... Grindr? You go to a hookup app and, nine times out of ten, you're going to find people just wanting a hookup. Nothing surprising there.
  • Eleven

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    Sep 13, 2016 12:12 AM GMT
    Ive always wanted to use a glory hole since I was young but just too scared of whats on the other side, Im the kind of gay who needs to see a face
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    Sep 13, 2016 12:17 AM GMT
    Wave the magic wand and you'll have a date/conversation/social life for ever!! lol

    I dunno, work is the best remedy for socialising!

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    Sep 13, 2016 12:59 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    nice_chap said
    Art_Deco saidGlory Hole Dating Strategy

    Is a glory hole now considered dating?

    he was speaking figuratively, as in tons of men on apps just wanna see your cock without making the effort to get to know anything else about you.

    Thanks. And the OP also gave a somewhat similar explanation. That it was nothing really literal.

    OK, we all express ourselves differently. I suppose the more important point isn't semantic, but rather, an apparent degradation in the quality of gay sexual encounters.

    At least in San Francisco. Which hasn't had a very good gay sexual image in quite a long time.

    At least in straight circles, which use SF as the "poster child" for everything that's wrong with the gay community.

    And I don't know how to overcome that, if that image is in any way accurate. I guess look harder, because I can't believe that everyone in SF is that way.

    That, or just relocate, if feasible. The cost of living, especially housing, is ridiculously overpriced anyway. I don't see that gay behavior as much elsewhere, except among the horny younger gay subset. To which the OP does not belong.


    Why the hell do you care if San Francisco is the "poster child" for what is wrong with the gay community.........from a straight perspective? Or hasn't had a good gay sexual image in "quite a long time"?

    It's pure bull shit for one. If you knew anything about HIV (and you don't) you'd know San Francisco is LEADING the nation in care. More people are on PrEP and Undetectable.....and they have the LOWEST new infection per capita. And Florida, Miami and Wilton Manor are among the worst states and cities, with an INCREASING rate of HIV.

    Are the SF Gay Parades too "Gay" for you? Should they tone it down for your comfort? Was Harvey Milk too political for straight people?

    You moralize in generalities. San Francisco hasn't has a bath house since the 90s. There are in Miami. (Not that I think it matters one way or the other). And you worry about glory holes? I'm pretty sure they have Glory holes where you are too. Whatever you think the "image" of SF or Miami is, it's not realistic. And it's dangerous.
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    Sep 13, 2016 2:11 AM GMT
    MaleElement saidAnd why would you defend them? I thought gay was about men loving men. It gay is just gonna be about sociopathic behavior I'm outta here.

    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior saidDang, bro. Why you be knocking glory holes 'n shi'?icon_question.gif


    I was merely teasing. I can't believe you took me seriously.

    But in all honesty, if you're gonna mention what gay men love I do luvs me a good blowjob. icon_cool.gif
  • buddycat

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    Sep 13, 2016 3:57 AM GMT
    Oh I know what you are saying about OKCupid, it is like OKDorks. I was actually contacted on OKCupid by someone I already knew but does not remember or recognize me. He didn't seem to get the hint I would be friends and that is it asking questions like "are you single?" or "Tell me about yourself?". Maybe meeting people in person has gone out of style? That is all I am used to doing? Maybe just got to a gay bar?

    MaleElement saidI am told that apps are the only way to contact gay men in 2016. That is certainly my observation in real life with every one looking at their phones and bars only populated by groups of gay friends. Dating apps, like OK Cupid ... You have got to be kidding? Have you ever tried to use that?

    buddycat said
    MaleElement saidI've been single for 8 months and things sure have changed since I was last single. I go to hipster bars and I am envious of the socalizing I see there. That is how I remembered it was with gay men but now when I contact anyone on a gay app I'm immediately told that there can be no pre - meeting just cold NSA sex as if gay dating is down to the level of glory hole only.


    Your basing everything in the gay community on a hook-up app? Have you thought of a traditional dating site or even meeting people in person? In the past, I have met people in a variety of gay places. I am sure you can meet people on a hook-up but need to weed through it.
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    Sep 29, 2016 3:45 AM GMT
    Nowadays, gay apps are used principally to hook up. Getting to know each other seems unnecessary if the objective is to get laid and nothing more.
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    Sep 29, 2016 5:02 AM GMT
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    Why the hell do you care if San Francisco is the "poster child" for what is wrong with the gay community.........from a straight perspective? Or hasn't had a good gay sexual image in "quite a long time"?

    It's pure bull shit for one. If you knew anything about HIV (and you don't) you'd know San Francisco is LEADING the nation in care. More people are on PrEP and Undetectable.....and they have the LOWEST new infection per capita. And Florida, Miami and Wilton Manor are among the worst states and cities, with an INCREASING rate of HIV.

    Are the SF Gay Parades too "Gay" for you? Should they tone it down for your comfort? Was Harvey Milk too political for straight people?

    You moralize in generalities. San Francisco hasn't has a bath house since the 90s. There are in Miami. (Not that I think it matters one way or the other). And you worry about glory holes? I'm pretty sure they have Glory holes where you are too. Whatever you think the "image" of SF or Miami is, it's not realistic. And it's dangerous.

    Dangerous how? And what has this got to do with your obsession with encouraging gays to all have unsafe sex? So that you have more barebacking opportunities? I wasn't aware this thread had anything to do with your own unhealthy compulsions.

    And I DO care about SF having a bad image with straight people. Hell, SF even often has a bad image with gays. Anything that damages the gay image in general undermines voter support for our achieving equal civil rights, and all the things we're fighting for.

    Your failure to appreciate that shows how little you really are engaged in the gay community. Other than your personal quest to have everyone bareback, to satisfy your own selfish sexual needs.

    Sorry, I don't think most of us wanna agree to risk that. The medicine isn't quite there yet to assure us we can safely take that chance. Getting closer, but not as things currently are. Maybe in a few years, with more competent, objective studies done.

    In the meantime, one simply doesn't bareback. We take safe-sex options instead. Sorry to digress from the thread topic, but then you did hijack things from the subject at hand. Or was that the subject in hole. OK, never mind, it's getting late here.
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    Sep 29, 2016 10:19 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    TIMinPS said
    Why the hell do you care if San Francisco is the "poster child" for what is wrong with the gay community.........from a straight perspective? Or hasn't had a good gay sexual image in "quite a long time"?

    It's pure bull shit for one. If you knew anything about HIV (and you don't) you'd know San Francisco is LEADING the nation in care. More people are on PrEP and Undetectable.....and they have the LOWEST new infection per capita. And Florida, Miami and Wilton Manor are among the worst states and cities, with an INCREASING rate of HIV.

    Are the SF Gay Parades too "Gay" for you? Should they tone it down for your comfort? Was Harvey Milk too political for straight people?

    You moralize in generalities. San Francisco hasn't has a bath house since the 90s. There are in Miami. (Not that I think it matters one way or the other). And you worry about glory holes? I'm pretty sure they have Glory holes where you are too. Whatever you think the "image" of SF or Miami is, it's not realistic. And it's dangerous.

    Dangerous how? And what has this got to do with your obsession with encouraging gays to all have unsafe sex? So that you have more barebacking opportunities? I wasn't aware this thread had anything to do with your own unhealthy compulsions.

    And I DO care about SF having a bad image with straight people. Hell, SF even often has a bad image with gays. Anything that damages the gay image in general undermines voter support for our achieving equal civil rights, and all the things we're fighting for.

    Your failure to appreciate that shows how little you really are engaged in the gay community. Other than your personal quest to have everyone bareback, to satisfy your own selfish sexual needs.

    Sorry, I don't think most of us wanna agree to risk that. The medicine isn't quite there yet to assure us we can safely take that chance. Getting closer, but not as things currently are. Maybe in a few years, with more competent, objective studies done.

    For some people it will never be safe enough, granted. But to codify that is like saying we need to empty out every swimming pool that has had a POZ person in it.........just in case.

    In the meantime, one simply doesn't bareback. (you don't, many do. And always have. That's the point of ART and PrEP, even in the absence of condoms they provide SUPERIOR protection to HIV.) We take safe-sex options instead. Sorry to digress from the thread topic, but then you did hijack things from the subject at hand. Or was that the subject in hole. OK, never mind, it's getting late here.


    You're a fucking nitwit. I never mentioned barebacking. The compulsion seems to be YOURS. I was talking about HIV treatment and prevention............and the success San Francisco has had. If anything SF is the poster child of WHAT TO DO. RIGHT. Miami (and you apparently) are not taking the correct steps to prevent HIV, an example of WHAT TO DO WRONG. If you and your city is dissing PrEP and ART then it explains why your new HIV cases are so HIGH.

    San Francisco has been ground zero for Gay Rights.......always.

    Read the fucking Partner Study. And all the others too. ZERO transmissions.

    Massive HIV Treatment Study Found Zero Transmissions Between Mixed-Status Couples

    https://thinkprogress.org/massive-hiv-treatment-study-found-zero-transmissions-between-mixed-status-couples-73d4a497f77b#.r7oxfhvdo

    You seem to think SF has a bad image, other than it being expensive I don't see a problem with SF. It's the Gay epicenter for everything.

    In another thread you were chastising someone for not being informed "I can discuss an issue with someone who thinks for himself, and whose mind is open to ideas. Wasting my time with the closed minds of propaganda sellers is like arguing with an outdoor political billboard sign, useless pursuits I would rather forego." YOU are that billboard when it comes to HIV. Unfortunately it's people like you that condemn modern medicine for the old stand-by of condoms, and people actually listen you! Even the mean and stupid hateful shit. icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 02, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
    So happy I don't associate with insecure men who have smart phones and think they are entitled to sex. Boring guys are always boring, don't need no app to know that.
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    Oct 02, 2016 4:44 PM GMT
    MaleElement saidI am told that apps are the only way to contact gay men in 2016. That is certainly my observation in real life with every one looking at their phones and bars only populated by groups of gay friends. Dating apps, like OK Cupid ... You have got to be kidding? Have you ever tried to use that?
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    OK Cupid can't be all bad. I know of two gay couples (over 50 years old) in SF who met their partners on OK Cupid in the last couple years - and both couples are getting married.
  • LEANDRO_NJ

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    Oct 03, 2016 1:41 AM GMT
    No pun intended, but why complain about glory hole dating, when you are showing your cock for anyone who never met you or seen you face to face? isn't that how glory holes are carry out in real life!?

    There is nothing wrong in using every available venue in today's world to find your special someone, and that includes online dating! why not join a local group (doesn't have to be exclusively gay) with like interests, hobbies, or pass times! I am willing to bet you'll find someone worth dating in no time.
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    Oct 08, 2016 11:42 PM GMT
    Lol jesus, When does glory hole considered dating?? Lol, I thought only married closeted guys only go there to unload and leave?? Not that I know, Ok,
    I've only done it once Lol, in a dark sex club in LA, lol never again !! icon_razz.gificon_redface.gificon_redface.gif