Bad idea to have shirtless pictures on fb when applying for jobs?

  • Kromethius

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    Sep 20, 2016 10:23 AM GMT
    I have graduated from texas a&m since this past December for electrical engineering. I do have a shirtless pic of my progress on Facebook but have I been rejected mainly for having a shirtless pic?
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    Sep 20, 2016 10:53 AM GMT
    I think it would depend on the positions you're applying for. It might be worth not having a shirtless pic though if you're searchable, as people do make judgements on stupid things like that and it would be better not to give any ammunition.
  • nice_chap

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    Sep 20, 2016 11:22 AM GMT
    I think shirtless pics at the beach on holiday and stuff like that are fine because you'd naturally wear very little clothing in that sort of situation. But selfies where you are posing in the bathroom mirror or gym locker room might put off potential employers. They might think "he loves himself a bit too much and reckons he can just get what he wants by showing off his muscles, and will probably flirt with clients and make other employees feel uncomfortable. I can't take him seriously." Even though you're doing it to share your fitness progress with friends, because that's important to you, not everyone will get that impression at first. And first impressions are pretty important.

    Realjock is a site dedicated to fitness and gay dating, so it's totally fine to upload tons of shirtless selfies here, but facebook is a bit more universal. More and more people are using it to promote their business and professional skills, and if you don't want to risk missing out on career opportunities, then your content should ideally be kept tasteful.
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    Sep 20, 2016 11:58 AM GMT
    Is it your profile pic? That's probably a bad idea. Otherwise, you should keep your profile locked-down to friends-only. That way your potential employer won't see anything.
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    Sep 20, 2016 12:34 PM GMT
    If you suspect the shirtless Facebook pic is negatively affecting your job prospects, then just delete it. What's more important? Employment or displaying your bare chest? You already know the answer.

    And since you live in Texas (as I did for nearly 5 years, mostly in SAT where you live), I'd drop any references or hints that you're gay. You can't fight the engrained culture there, so simply undermine & subvert it with your success. Either that, or move elsewhere. Best of luck!
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    Sep 20, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
    all u snoopy motherfuckers can get fuckt Cus I'm not on social media
  • Eleven

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    Sep 20, 2016 2:51 PM GMT
    If you need to ask if its a bad idea don't do it....

    Im not a fan of changing who I am fpr jobs which is why I dont choose wanky professions.
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    Sep 20, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
    Eleven saidIf you need to ask if its a bad idea don't do it....

    Im not a fan of changing who I am fpr jobs which is why I dont choose wanky professions.

    ummm... the world needs engineers. It's a great profession, whether you think it's "wanky" or not. If it weren't for wanky engineers, and other wanks, you'd be living in a cave looking to get your next meal with a pointy stick. What exactly do YOU do that's so unwanky?
  • Eleven

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    Sep 20, 2016 4:51 PM GMT
    I didn't read he was an an electrical engineer, I was responding to the headline....

    And what I meant by wanky professions I mean commerce, advertising any corporate job where you have to kiss ass, assimilate and sell your soul to get ahead, types of jobs that do background checks like stalking your profile on FB.

    Personally Im a big fan of using public information to form opinions on people...
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 20, 2016 5:27 PM GMT
    I wouldn't think it would matter. I've hired a zillion people over the years and unless someone from HR told me a FB thread sounded sketchy, the fact that a guy was into body building would not have raised a hiring flag. But from your profile, it sounds like you should target a research company or a college graduate program and talk to them about your specific interests. A lot of grad programs merge engineering with med school, especially the research oriented schools.
  • MuscledHorse

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    Sep 20, 2016 10:47 PM GMT
    My best friend's (now ex) wife has run HR for a couple of good sized companies. Her lecture to employees was that facebook is their personal life and it should be locked down so only friends can see AND they should never be friends with people with whom they work. Even with all the execs she knew up to and including the CEO she was not friend s with them on facebook. Her professional life is her professional life and her personal life is her personal life. Many companies have had to issue social media guidelines to both employees and to HR hiring agents (as some were requiring applicants to login or provide their password to facebook in interviews, which was lawsuit territory and then some). As with her, I have seen a number of jobs end because of poor judgement on social media (don't call in sick and post pics at the beach, don't vent about people at work and disclose potentially sensitive company information, don't post pics of recreational drug use, etc)

    Having a shirtless pic is no crime. In fact, I actually have a (professionally shot) shirtless pic on my linkedin page from when I did personal training alongside my pharmacy work and it has not negatively impacted my work life as a health care professional. If any weight is given to a shirtless pic of a guy in good shape I would expect it to be seen as a sign he isn't going to cost the company a lot of health care dollars and be a drag on their bottom line. Just keep your personal life your personal life and do not mix it with your work life.
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    Sep 20, 2016 10:59 PM GMT
    nice_chap saidI think shirtless pics at the beach on holiday and stuff like that are fine because you'd naturally wear very little clothing in that sort of situation. But selfies where you are posing in the bathroom mirror or gym locker room might put off potential employers. They might think "he loves himself a bit too much and reckons he can just get what he wants by showing off his muscles, and will probably flirt with clients and make other employees feel uncomfortable. I can't take him seriously." Even though you're doing it to share your fitness progress with friends, because that's important to you, not everyone will get that impression at first. And first impressions are pretty important.

    All this.
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    Sep 21, 2016 1:32 PM GMT
    You would think an electrical engineer's social life could be private but not. The last company i worked for everyone behaved so badly in and out of the office. You got to figure if a FB account is really worth it.

    some say gay forums like realJock or gaySpeak are old inter web formats but they tend to keep your family life more private.

    Just a word to the OP; engineering you will always be judge by none technical peeps. Even if you career has nothing to do with say sales these people will continually hang around your work environment. Typical gringo company structure; for every one engineer they have ten business or law grads with their hands firmly on a company tit. They will judge you by THEIR standards.
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    Sep 21, 2016 2:36 PM GMT
    Since you don't know how any employer will react to some photos, just don't post anything but innocuous vacation pics, pet pics, and so forth. Assuming you post anything at all that an employer could access.

    When I initially retired from the Army and was considering trying civilian jobs I had professional 8x10 resume photos done. We didn't have Facebook and the others yet. I presented my image in the best light I could (which for me would actually be with a flashlight under a blanket).

    Today it doesn't matter for me, not job hunting. But even my RJ profile pic of me kissing with my husband might lose me a job opportunity if I was applying.

    Oh, sure, gay marriage and PDAs are pretty well legal in the US today. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE likes them. Prejudice & discrimination against LGBT still exists, as they do for minorities. And often very hard to prove against anonymous HR departments through which you may apply. If I were job hunting again I'd take my RJ pics down.

    It's a matter of priorities: what's more important? A job or having a pic online?
  • Kromethius

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    Sep 22, 2016 2:55 AM GMT
    thank you so much for your words but see I also jerked off on skype with random guys so idk if they may have recorded me and I'll never know... plus I don't know if they may have found my other gay apps or if catfishers have been posting my pictures
  • Kromethius

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    Sep 22, 2016 2:56 AM GMT
    can they hack in and see my adult pics or other private pics?
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    Sep 22, 2016 3:29 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidIf you suspect the shirtless Facebook pic is negatively affecting your job prospects, then just delete it. What's more important? Employment or displaying your bare chest? You already know the answer.

    And since you live in Texas (as I did for nearly 5 years, mostly in SAT where you live), I'd drop any references or hints that you're gay. You can't fight the engrained culture there, so simply undermine & subvert it with your success. Either that, or move elsewhere. Best of luck!


    I'd say Art_deco's advice is too cautious. But, what stage in the hiring process do things seem to stop?

    I'm an alumnus of the Texas A&M MBA program (a top 25 ranked business school), so we know the Aggie Honor Code...."An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do." Having a shirtless pic is inline with that code. Good employers understand you have a personal life, and will respect that. We're talking about FB - not LinkedIn.

    I've hired many college graduates, and if I saw your shirtless photos on FB, I'd see them as a sign that you have confidence in yourself and the self-discipline required to build such muscles. Do you want to work for a company that sees your positive inner traits....the real you....and seeks to build on that? Granted, being "the real you" may turn off an employer here and there. But it may further attract the right one. Being genuine and real and comfortable in your skin (no pun intended) will get you a lot further in the business world. That's a promise.