A Week of Whoppers From Donald Trump

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    Sep 24, 2016 6:18 PM GMT
    Click on the link. It's a long list.

    All politicians bend the truth to fit their purposes, including Hillary Clinton. But Donald J. Trump has unleashed a blizzard of falsehoods, exaggerations and outright lies in the general election, peppering his speeches, interviews and Twitter posts with untruths so frequent that they can seem flighty or random — even compulsive.

    The New York Times closely tracked Mr. Trump’s public statements from Sept. 15-21, and assembled a list of his 31 biggest whoppers, many of them uttered repeatedly. This total excludes dozens more: Untruths that appeared to be mere hyperbole or humor, or delivered purely for effect, or what could generously be called rounding errors.


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    Sep 24, 2016 11:08 PM GMT
    No doubt Mr Trump has a whopper, and Mrs Clitoris has a fillet O Fish.
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    Sep 25, 2016 4:12 PM GMT
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statements-20160925-snap-story.htmlScope of Trump's falsehoods unprecedented for a modern presidential candidate

    Donald Trump says that taxes in the United States are higher than almost anywhere else on earth. They’re not.

    He says he opposed the Iraq war from the start. He didn’t.

    Now, after years of spreading the lie that President Obama was born in Africa, Trump says that Hillary Clinton did it first (untrue) and that he’s the one who put the controversy to rest (also untrue).

    Never in modern presidential politics has a major candidate made false statements as routinely as Trump has. Over and over, independent researchers have examined what the Republican nominee says and concluded it was not the truth — but “pants on fire” (PolitiFact) or “four Pinocchios” (Washington Post Fact Checker).
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    Sep 25, 2016 4:18 PM GMT
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    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statements-20160925-snap-story.htmlScope of Trump's falsehoods unprecedented for a modern presidential candidate

    Donald Trump says that taxes in the United States are higher than almost anywhere else on earth. They’re not.

    He says he opposed the Iraq war from the start. He didn’t.

    Now, after years of spreading the lie that President Obama was born in Africa, Trump says that Hillary Clinton did it first (untrue) and that he’s the one who put the controversy to rest (also untrue).

    Never in modern presidential politics has a major candidate made false statements as routinely as Trump has. Over and over, independent researchers have examined what the Republican nominee says and concluded it was not the truth — but “pants on fire” (PolitiFact) or “four Pinocchios” (Washington Post Fact Checker).



    Setting expectations low so you can exceed them when it counts is a well-known strategy. This debate is going to be epic. Then again, it's being hyped so much that it may prove anti-climactic
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    Sep 25, 2016 6:01 PM GMT
    Curious, some admire Trump's ability to lie so shamelessly.
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:30 AM GMT
    TimTheThird saidCurious, some admire Trump's ability to lie so shamelessly.
    If anyone is the big liar in this Presidential race, it is Hillary rotten Clinton. That crooked, power hungry cunt is scared shitless of the truth. But you dumb as rocks democrats will lie and cover up for her no matter what the situation. Go figure!
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:56 AM GMT
    TimTheThird saidCurious, some admire Trump's ability to lie so shamelessly.
    Trumpers admire Trumps ability to be the most childish, despicable, narcissistic, unstable human to ever run for President. His supporters are more embarrassing than he is. The man will be the downfall of the US, if not the world. Half of Americans think he's going to use nukes while in office. It's truly terrifying.
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:59 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    TimTheThird saidCurious, some admire Trump's ability to lie so shamelessly.
    If anyone is the big liar in this Presidential race, it is Hillary rotten Clinton. That crooked, power hungry cunt is scared shitless of the truth. But you dumb as rocks democrats will lie and cover up for her no matter what the situation. Go figure!
    How ironic. You're quite the hypocrite. It's a proven fact Trump has lied more than Hillary, and he's just as much if not more corrupt than her, but you guys worship him so you stick your head in the sand and pretend its not true. Meanwhile you will put into office the most destructive, dangerous President in US history. Trump is going to make Bush look like a good president.
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    Sep 26, 2016 1:24 AM GMT
    tRump lies lies 70% of the time, Hillary 28% according to Politifact (a Pulitzer prize winning site)

    Under "mostly false" "false" and "pants on fire" categories. He was also awarded LIE of the YEAR 2015.
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    Sep 26, 2016 11:38 AM GMT
    Trump's lies aside, I'm looking forward to tonight's Super Brawl. I wonder which Trump is going to show up. I agree, however, that Clinton is being held to a much higher standard. Accordingly, Trump only needs to show a minute of decency and many people will consider it a "win" for him. What a shame.
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:29 PM GMT
    TIMinPS saidtRump lies lies 70% of the time, Hillary 28% according to Politifact (a Pulitzer prize winning site)

    Under "mostly false" "false" and "pants on fire" categories. He was also awarded LIE of the YEAR 2015.


    Even of that 28%--though I haven't studied this to say definitively--it would seem to me that some of that (and some of his bullshit) might have been not so much lying but offering wrong facts in the course of conversation/interview/whatever. She doesn't have google at her finger tips to check her facts every time she chats. Which is particularly scummy of RJepublicans who do have that resource but, like Trump, purposely lie anyway.

    And let's face it, sometimes in the world of diplomats, a person can be put into a situation where it's impossible or even wrong to tell the truth. The extreme example being B. Clinton denying sex in the oval office because as far as I'm concerned the question was inappropriate as the incident involved consenting adults and therefore it was the president's job to lie in response to that question. Just as we tell children white lies,, just as we don't always tell entire truths all the time to protect people's feelings, etc.

    So of the 28%, even of the 70%, some of that is at least explainable, even if someone thinks it not excusable. So then the big difference is not how either number might look alone but the big difference between the two. Because we can be pretty sure that tRump's 70% lying wasn't mostly him protecting other people's feelings.

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