Weak-minded, Strongheaded Trump Supporters Crave Authoritarianism, a Christian Conservative Website Reports

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    Sep 26, 2016 4:13 PM GMT
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    Destinharbor said http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4246910 ... Do right-wingers simply crave blind allegiance to strongmen...


    http://soshable.com/science-shows-trump-supporters-want-to-be-told-what-to-do/Science Shows Trump Supporters Want To Be Told What To Do

    A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people.


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    Sep 26, 2016 4:15 PM GMT
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533...a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism....

    My finding is the result of a national poll I conducted in the last five days of December under the auspices of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, sampling 1,800 registered voters across the country and the political spectrum. Running a standard statistical analysis, I found .... Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter...

    Not all authoritarians are Republicans by any means; in national surveys since 1992, many authoritarians have also self-identified as independents and Democrats. And in the 2008 Democratic primary, the political scientist Marc Hetherington found that authoritarianism mattered more than income, ideology, gender, age and education in predicting whether voters preferred Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. But Hetherington has also found, based on 14 years of polling, that authoritarians have steadily moved from the Democratic to the Republican Party over time. He hypothesizes that the trend began decades ago, as Democrats embraced civil rights, gay rights, employment protections and other political positions valuing freedom and equality. In my poll results, authoritarianism was not a statistically significant factor in the Democratic primary race, at least not so far, but it does appear to be playing an important role on the Republican side...49 percent of likely Republican primary voters I surveyed score in the top quarter of the authoritarian scale—more than twice as many as Democratic voters...


    http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/66323/In the nine months since New York billionaire Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign, many pundits and commentators have attributed his snowballing success to his popularity with white working class voters who also lacked a college education. Using new survey data, Jonathan Weiler and Matthew MacWilliams find that this characterization of Trump voter isn’t accurate; rather than class or education, authoritarianism is the biggest driver of support for Trump.


    http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/65819/Up to now, many political scientists and commentators have argued that support for Donald Trump is ‘capped’, given that he and Senator Ted Cruz (TX) are competing for the same pool of antiestablishment voters. Using new survey data from South Carolina Republican voters, Matthew C. MacWilliams finds that, along with concerns about terrorism, authoritarianism is a major predictor of people’s support for Donald Trump, and not a predictor of support for Ted Cruz. With these findings in mind, he argues that so long as people are concerned about outside threats – concerns which Trump is stoking – his support will continue to grow.
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    Sep 26, 2016 9:50 PM GMT
    You are dead wrong about Trump supporters bunk. If any group of voters have extremely weak minds, it is all you Hillary supporters who just want more big government so you can all just sit on your lazy asses and force the working, tax paying folks to pull your weight.
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    Sep 26, 2016 9:54 PM GMT
    "A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people."

    No surprise there.
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    Sep 27, 2016 3:30 AM GMT
    DOMINUS said"A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people."

    No surprise there.



    I suppose this is also the basis for religion and has been for thousands of years (until the internet). "Sheeple" comes to mind icon_redface.gif
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    DOMINUS said"A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people."

    No surprise there.


    I suppose this is also the basis for religion and has been for thousands of years (until the internet). "Sheeple" comes to mind icon_redface.gif


    I don't know if that's true in all cases but probably so in many. In Judaism, though, there's tradition of debate about how so-called scripture might be interpreted or applied. Thereby being Mishna and Talmud in conjunction with Torah and so we haven't known a lot of stoning. There's quite a bit of metaphorical leeway.

    Similarly, Buddha himself said, to paraphrase, don't believe what doesn't make sense to you, even if I the Buddha have said it.

    You can also have spiritual humanism which engages critical thinking. Etc.

    I've not done or read studies but offhand I'd think it most likely the fundies of any sect who tend more so towards authoritarianism, be they of a standard religion or an Oprah, Dyer et al fan. For most of the rest of religion, I tend to think the draw there less about seeking authority (outside of that little GOD thang) and more so a matter of seeking fellowship.
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    ELNathB said
    DOMINUS said"A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people."

    No surprise there.


    I suppose this is also the basis for religion and has been for thousands of years (until the internet). "Sheeple" comes to mind icon_redface.gif


    I don't know if that's true in all cases but probably so in many. In Judaism, though, there's tradition of debate about how so-called scripture might be interpreted or applied. Thereby being Mishna and Talmud in conjunction with Torah and so we haven't known a lot of stoning. There's quite a bit of metaphorical leeway.

    Similarly, Buddha himself said, to paraphrase, don't believe what doesn't make sense to you, even if I the Buddha have said it.

    You can also have spiritual humanism which engages critical thinking. Etc.

    I've not done or read studies but offhand I'd think it most likely the fundies of any sect who tend more so towards authoritarianism, be they of a standard religion or an Oprah, Dyer et al fan. For most of the rest of religion, I tend to think the draw there less about seeking authority (outside of that little GOD thang) and more so a matter of seeking fellowship.



    Well, "lead, follow or get out of the way", in many cases, lost souls are the ones that end up following, and "the blind, leading the blind"

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    Sep 27, 2016 4:53 PM GMT
    Republicans like daddy figures, and Democrats like mommy figures. Both are bad for the country at the extremes. But the tribalism Trump is using to fire up his crowd is over the line encouraging totalitarianism whereas Hillary's is barely left of center.
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    Sep 27, 2016 4:57 PM GMT
    ELNathB said
    DOMINUS said"A new study conducted by the University of Massachusetts determined that there was one prevalent trait among those who support Donald Trump: they believe in authoritarianism. They like strong leaders who will do the thinking for them and who will make decisions with or without the consent of the people."

    No surprise there.



    I suppose this is also the basis for religion and has been for thousands of years (until the internet). "Sheeple" comes to mind icon_redface.gif
    A study from an ultra leftist public university in an ultra leftist state that is nothing more but pure, unsubstantiated rubbish. Throwing all conservatives into one basket with mostly nonsensical assumptions that just proves to me and most other sound minded people that it is you liberals who are ignorant and intolerant.
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    Sep 29, 2016 5:17 PM GMT
    http://www.psyencelab.com/uploads/5/4/6/5/54658091/comment-authoritarian_values.pdf...Donald Trump’s supporters reflecting far radical rightwing populist voters’ views in Europe rather than traditional Republican views and values in the U.S. ...

    Recent empirical research has examined the relationship between the psychological construct of authoritarianism and voters who favor 2016 Republican United States Presidential candidate Donald Trump...

    ...Persuasion is the process of changing attitudes, and media can provide a platform for political parties to advance their agendas and change a population’s attitudes on issues to favor the positions of the particular political party....

    During an election cycle, partisan voters will always believe that the news outlets are biased against them, whether they are or not. However, bias in the news in the United States may very well be real due to the following dynamic. Fox News works very hard to tell their viewers (largely Republican; Pew Research Center, 2010) that Fox News is unbiased and the other outlets are all biased towards liberal Democrats. By doing this, Fox News identifies as biased to the viewers of all other outlets. Once that has occurred, Fox News can direct their coverage to the preferences of their audience and actually be biased in the supplemental commentaries that they provide. All parties likely overestimate the probability that a neutral viewer would be persuaded by the coverage, especially since the identification of bias self-selects the viewership, and neither side listens to the other. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to Fox News, but Fox News plays a key role in the cycle regarding how American politics may have become so recently polarized. Group polarization is the tendency for groups to make decisions that are more extreme than the members are initially inclined to make as individual...

    ...The following events may have created the context for recent widespread political polarization in the United States: 1994 GOP “Contract with America,” 1996 Fox News Channel launched with Roger Ailes as CEO, GOP attempted to impeach Clinton, 2000 Presidential election went to the Supreme Court for a decision, subsequently George W. Bush serves a term where many Democrats did not acknowledge that he was the elected President, 2008 Democrats win the White House with a Black President and a changing electorate demographic, and 2016 Trump appeals to authoritarians. All of this, given the new mass media venues (i.e., cable news, internet, social media), provides a context where political positions are easily polarized to the extremes and this can be used by political parties to win elections. One component of this polarization cycle was authoritarianism.