OMG- received this years CA general election Nov 8 voters guide

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    Sep 30, 2016 2:48 AM GMT
    Its no wonder many skip voting, at least here in CA, legislation piled on the propositions in the general election in anticipation of the largest voter turn out in history. Most don't have the time or inclination to read all this stuff. (yes on 60, NO required condoms for porn), (yes on 64, legalized marijuana)


    225 page booklet icon_eek.gif Do I need to hire an attorney to review this with me? WTF icon_confused.gif

    10 pages just for legalized marijuana alone, and the "text of proposed laws" make up half the book icon_eek.gif

    The US presidential candidates are not even in this booklet! They are listed on the Secretary of States website only WTF icon_eek.gif


    Size matters, its bigger than the IRS tax form instruction booklet icon_redface.gif

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    Sep 30, 2016 2:51 AM GMT
    Az is a hotter mess!
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    Sep 30, 2016 2:53 AM GMT
    2Bnaked saidAz is a hotter mess!



    Oh? What does AZ got going on in the general election? Ive never seen this many props in CA, at one time since I moved here 16 years ago icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 30, 2016 3:01 AM GMT


    Hate to see what this years paper ballot looks like icon_redface.gif
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    Sep 30, 2016 4:32 AM GMT
    Our early voting, which we always do, is done exactly the same as actual voting day. Although I understand some States are presenting voters with impossible ballots.

    We already know how to vote on our major choices. The challenge is all these other local candidates for school boards, minor judgeships, and all kinds of candidates we know nothing about. And State Constitutional amendments, County initiatives, the list becomes endless. All Greek to us.

    Therefore we rely on the advice of experts, who are more plugged into these issues. It mainly used to be our attorney, but he's now an elected Fort Lauderdale official, and he naturally says he can no longer ethically advise on elections.

    So we go to other resources. And make our list before we go into the voting booth.

    If I find a race with names unknown to me, and sometimes it happens, I skip over it. Many of those local races don't have a party affiliation. I won't just throw a dart at the ballot. I hate to waste the vote, but if I haven't heard about these individuals and what's involved, despite our getting a local newspaper and being an online regular for local news, I simply won't guess.
  • metta

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    Sep 30, 2016 7:02 PM GMT
    I know that we, in California, have some important propositions. I don't know all of the props yet but I'm going to vote to end capital punishment and to legalize marijuana. I haven't gotten my guide yet.
  • bro4bro

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    Sep 30, 2016 7:16 PM GMT
    Hmm, Nath, something tells me you won't have to read all 10 pages to decide how you're gonna vote on legalizing marijuana...
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    Sep 30, 2016 11:28 PM GMT
    It's the new normal. Scams are easy to
    Hide in 3,000 page bills .

    ELNathB saidIts no wonder many skip voting, at least here in CA, legislation piled on the propositions in the general election in anticipation of the largest voter turn out in history. Most don't have the time or inclination to read all this stuff. (yes on 60, NO required condoms for porn), (yes on 64, legalized marijuana)


    225 page booklet icon_eek.gif Do I need to hire an attorney to review this with me? WTF icon_confused.gif

    10 pages just for legalized marijuana alone, and the "text of proposed laws" make up half the book icon_eek.gif

    The US presidential candidates are not even in this booklet! They are listed on the Secretary of States website only WTF icon_eek.gif


    Size matters, its bigger than the IRS tax form instruction booklet icon_redface.gif

    650x366

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    Oct 03, 2016 12:15 AM GMT
    We got our sample ballot in the mail yesterday (Sat), and we've already marked it as best we could. Next we'll discuss it with others, regarding the candidates & issues that are unknown to us. If we remain confused or unconvinced, we'll be compelled to skip that item, much as we'd rather not. As I stated earlier here, I simply won't throw a dart at the wall.
  • tazzari

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    Oct 03, 2016 10:31 AM GMT
    We get a pretty thick pamphlet in Washington, too. But it's the price you pay for living in an active democracy. Made worse in Washington by too many peoplke not willing to let legislators do their job - we have far too many initiatives asking for votes on things people don't understand but feel strongly about anyway.

    But it beats hell out of living in a long list of other countries...

    Vote on the issues you are concerned about, and let the others go; it's irresponsible to vote on things one doesn't have a good understanding of.

    And vote for Hillary.
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    Oct 10, 2016 4:22 PM GMT
    No mailed sample ballot yet but early voting has started here in CA this week. Found our ballot on line though


    https://www.lavote.net/WebApps/PollLocator/ballot/3496/350.pdf


    Um NO on 60? This one was a bit confusing in the ballot booklet which indicated a yes (for no condoms).
    The way its worded on the sample ballot, a no (for no condoms) icon_confused.gif

    ADULT FILMS. CONDOMS. HEALTH REQUIREMENTS. INITIATIVE STATUTE. Requires adult film performers to use condoms during filming of sexual intercourse. Requires producers to pay for performer vaccinations, testing, and medical examinations. Requires producers to post condom requirement at film sites. Fiscal Impact: Likely reduction of state and local tax revenues of several million dollars annually. Increased state spending that could exceed $1 million annually on regulation, partially offset by new fees.
  • metta

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    Oct 10, 2016 4:35 PM GMT
    ^
    I think you should have gotten yours by now. You might want to double check your voter registration, just in case.

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/registration-status/
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    Oct 10, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
    metta said^
    I think you should have gotten yours by now. You might want to double check your voter registration, just in case.

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/registration-status/





    Already did that, im Active and eligible to vote 11/8/16, odd that I didn't receive the sample ballot but at least I have it online