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    I do remember all of them icon_cool.gif Weird how a place like this can be a part of your thinking process, I do apologize If I offended HotJoe I do feel I was unfair to him a little bit.
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    Oct 02, 2016 8:50 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidHotJoe
    David3000
    Jmusmc85

    I do remember all of them icon_cool.gif Weird how a place like this can be a part of your thinking process, I do apologize If I offended HotJoe I do feel I was unfair to him a little bit.


    David3K has been mistaken for Brock... Jmusmc85 has some puppy screen name, I think? HottJoe comes and goes. But from a very random sampling of websites I frequently visit, activity has gone way down but I might be able to offer a partial reason why... And the only people that are seemingly posting anything anywhere these days are Russian trolls trying to get Trump elected and you might have figured some of them out on RJ already...
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    Bonaparts saidHotJoe
    David3000
    Jmusmc85

    I do remember all of them icon_cool.gif Weird how a place like this can be a part of your thinking process, I do apologize If I offended HotJoe I do feel I was unfair to him a little bit.


    David3K has been mistaken for Brock... Jmusmc85 has some puppy screen name, I think? HottJoe comes and goes. But from a very random sampling of websites I've visited, activity has gone way down but I might be able to offer a partial reason why... And the only people that are seemingly posting anything anywhere these days are Russian trolls trying to get Trump elected and you might have figured some of them out on RJ already...



    you are just ridiculous icon_biggrin.gif
    Brock is a troll for sure, yesterday he mistakenly was replying from another of his sock accounts Azure3000 and then deleted the comment to post from Brock account again icon_lol.gif what a fail
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    Oct 02, 2016 8:59 AM GMT
    Bonaparts said
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    Bonaparts saidHotJoe
    David3000
    Jmusmc85

    I do remember all of them icon_cool.gif Weird how a place like this can be a part of your thinking process, I do apologize If I offended HotJoe I do feel I was unfair to him a little bit.


    David3K has been mistaken for Brock... Jmusmc85 has some puppy screen name, I think? HottJoe comes and goes. But from a very random sampling of websites I've visited, activity has gone way down but I might be able to offer a partial reason why... And the only people that are seemingly posting anything anywhere these days are Russian trolls trying to get Trump elected and you might have figured some of them out on RJ already...



    you are just ridiculous icon_biggrin.gif


    Well the American public is being poisoned by acetaldehyde, myself included, and I'm doing my part...eventually...to save America from acetaldehyde, the Russians, and what may end up becoming societal wide erectile dysfunction (all that stupid Russian troll activity and even being involved in riots here has the end goal of solving erectile dysfunction for them, of all things)...
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    Oct 02, 2016 9:11 AM GMT
    Alright, well keep doing the good job then
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    How are you been doing anyway?
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    Oct 02, 2016 9:35 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidAlright, well keep doing the good job then
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    Such videos don't speak of specific troll activity as it relates to Trump, as these videos are from two years ago, but I have already accumulated thousands of screenshots around the net, including screenshots from Realjock of Russian troll activity as it relates to Trump.
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    Oct 02, 2016 9:40 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidAlright, well keep doing the good job then
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    How are you been doing anyway?


    Treating myself as if I'm an alcoholic...the acetaldehyde in the air and all...and like Russian troll activity and stupid Hollywood makeup "innovations" like foundation, you too could start being poisoned by acetaldehyde, as it's going global...
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    Oct 02, 2016 9:44 AM GMT
    Well, yes, everyone knows about Russian Trolls especially in Baltics, Ukraine, that is nothing new, there are troll factories - hundreads of people sitting all day long by the computers posting Russian propaganda messages and getting paid for it, but even with that they have 2 major challenges outside their country, first is people are aware about them already, second - Russian capacity of impacting any processes outside their country remains very low, since Russia does not have a huge nation and their economy is more weak than strong, to think that Russia can affect any political processes in USA is highly blown out of proportion and remain more as a conspiracy Theory than anything else + There is no connection between Trump and Russian government that can suggest Russia would benefit from investing huge resources to affect the election. Another challenge is language barrier since it is very obvious when someone tries to translate from google translate and most Russians don't know english.
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    Oct 02, 2016 9:58 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidWell, yes, everyone knows about Russian Trolls especially in Baltics, that is nothing new, there are troll factories - hundreads of people sitting all day long by the computers posting Russian propaganda messages and getting paid for it, but even with that they have 2 major challenges outside their country, first is people are aware about them already, second - Russian capacity of impacting any processes remains very low, since Russia does not have a huge nation and their economy is more weak than strong, to think that Russia can affect any political processes in USA is highly blown out of proportion and remain more as a conspiracy Theory than anything else + There is no connection between Trump and Russian government that can suggest Russia would benefit from investing huge resources to affect the election.


    Trump is inattentive on those around him, and it is his advisers (his chief adviser formerly being Paul Manafort) that are the ones who have clear Russian ties, and it will be his advisers that will end up controlling a Trump presidency and never Trump himself... But onto Russian troll activity, instead of posting my own evidence, here is what worshipers of Kek/Pepe (a symbol of the Alt-Right) as an example, an otherwise Russian operation that could legitimately constitute a terrorist organization under definitions provided by the Patriot Act have done (the trolls/hackers are gloating over their accomplishments but it will be good evidence for Homeland Security...notice that they even reveal some of their tools they use to spam, make sure to pause the video at certain times and read what is being said):



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    Oct 02, 2016 10:22 AM GMT
    But you are kinda troll yourself, you are corrupted and taking sides, you can speculate connection between Trump and Russian government as much as you like, although there is no connection, what is a fact though, is that Clinton receives funds from Saudi Arabia which is far worse than Russia has ever been, and that is coming from me, coming from a nation that was affected from Russian terror and ideology, Russia is not that bad, Islamic world is the true devil on this planet, I don't know why USA has such a huge Russian phobia, soviet Union collapsed long time ago. USA has much stronger ties with islamic dictatorships than Russia. And by no means I am suggesting that Russia is an ally, but Russian global power is overestimated, Russia is struggling to even financially maintain it's own country, China is taking slowly Russia over, it has strong ties with western investors, all they have is an army and dictatorship. And no worries, like analysts are talking in Russia, Russia is heading straight to a revolution and revolution in Russia is inevitable.
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    Oct 02, 2016 10:35 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidWell, yes, everyone knows about Russian Trolls especially in Baltics, Ukraine, that is nothing new, there are troll factories - hundreads of people sitting all day long by the computers posting Russian propaganda messages and getting paid for it, but even with that they have 2 major challenges outside their country, first is people are aware about them already, second - Russian capacity of impacting any processes outside their country remains very low, since Russia does not have a huge nation and their economy is more weak than strong, to think that Russia can affect any political processes in USA is highly blown out of proportion and remain more as a conspiracy Theory than anything else + There is no connection between Trump and Russian government that can suggest Russia would benefit from investing huge resources to affect the election. Another challenge is language barrier since it is very obvious when someone tries to translate from google translate and most Russians don't know english.


    Russian trolling has become rather sophisticated though and THEY ARE WINNING THE HYBRID WAR, Brexit and Donald Trump's viability as a candidate happened because of them (he who controls the comment sections and social media, which the Russians do, control the interpretation of information, even if news is wholly negative towards Donald Trump or whatever). They still have a lot of broken English trolls on payroll, as Max Seddon of Buzzfeed, of all places, noted from translated emails in 2014 and prior Nashi trolling from 2012 (the defunct organization likely responsible for the 2007 Estonian cyber attacks), but well written English is the rule for Russian trolling. I have my own evidence that Russian trolling really started in 2007 around Ron Paul's 2008 Presidential Campaign (and not with Ukraine or the 2011 Duma elections) and it's really U.S. nationals, a fifth column if you will, and residents from Russia living in the U.S., apart from the more highly paid Russians that mastered English and still reside in Russia, that are trolls sent out to manipulate the American public (and as the videos I just posted, the Russians are also admitting to hacking).

    And a person that you've previously posted Youtube videos from, Paul Joseph Watson, is the man who is essentially responsible for starting concerns about Hilary's health with one of his videos...which could actually be legitimate at the end of the day...but I know it's still apart of a Russian disinformation campaign against Hilary so that Trump gets elected (a simple overview of his videos on MH17 [he essentially becomes one of the biggest apologists for mass murder...], Putin, Russia, etc, it becomes obvious that he's a paid agent of the Russian government in spite of being a British citizen), and his video cost her key points in the election. Concerns about her health will plague her for another month, but Paul Joseph Watson is just one small part of a huge Russian apparatus sent to destabilize the West.
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    Oct 02, 2016 10:38 AM GMT
    Brexit and Trump, Paul Joseph watson did not happen because of Russia, it happened because of regressive left. Russia has nothing to do with it. Listen, I am sure Clinton will win in the election anyway, so you can all be happy and ''safe'' icon_wink.gif And Russia is losing since the collapse of soviet Union, it lost all of the former Warsaw pact countries, it lost Baltics and most recently it lost Ukraine.
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    Oct 02, 2016 10:58 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidBut you are kinda troll yourself, you are corrupted and taking sides, you can speculate connection between Trump and Russian government as much as you like, although there is no connection, what is a fact though, is that Clinton receives funds from Saudi Arabia which is far worse than Russia has ever been, and that is coming from me, coming from a nation that was affected from Russian terror and ideology, Russia is not that bad, Islamic world is the true devil on this planet, I don't know why USA has such a huge Russian phobia, soviet Union collapsed long time ago. USA has much stronger ties with islamic dictatorships than Russia. And by no means I am suggesting that Russia is an ally, but Russian global power is overestimated, Russia is struggling to even financially maintain it's own country, China is taking slowly Russia over, it has strong ties with western investors, all they have is an army and dictatorship.


    I'm trying to collect evidence as we speak, although it's haphazard (and Anonymous keeps on getting ISIS accounts deleted), but it reveals that the nature of ISIS recruitment, has the same nature to the trolling that is trying to get Trump elected. In fact, I think Trump's presidential viability and ISIS recruitment are connected in the way a brother and sister is, but they exist in a state like abandoned children who simply don't know their connection or who their parents are...that being Russia. It's not just Trump that the Russians want to get elected though and they are behind Hungary's Jobbik (party members tend to get arrested for illegal activities and are generally suspected to be Russian agents) and Germany's AfD and France's own National Front before the Paris Attacks was solely funded by a Russian bank. Jobbik and the National Front stand a good chance of becoming the ruling party of their countries, and both of them with clear cut Russian ties.

    For now...watch this one video:

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    Oct 02, 2016 11:27 AM GMT
    Bonaparts saidBrexit and Trump, Paul Joseph watson did not happen because of Russia, it happened because of regressive left. Russia has nothing to do with it. Listen, I am sure Clinton will win in the election anyway, so you can all be happy and ''safe'' icon_wink.gif And Russia is losing since the collapse of soviet Union, it lost all of the former Warsaw pact countries, it lost Baltics and most recently it lost Ukraine.


    But they are doing what they can to get all of this back...and they are winning...as the West simply does not have the tools to fight the Russians yet. Russian air-strikes are the single greatest reasons for the Syrian Refugee Crisis and not what Russian disinformation has people believe. US Centcom and allies are the ones fighting ISIS, not the Russians, whose air-strikes, 90% of them, only target our allies (it's a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it's a civil war much in the way Vietnam was, but with ISIS acting as "zombies" who the Russians can occasionally use against NATO allies, and apart from recruitment sponsored by the Russian government aimed at the West, half of ISIS is essentially Russian speakers from Chechnya, Dagestan and from various parts of the former Soviet Union). The Russian army itself, and not separatists, accidentally shot MH17 down, but the magic of Russian disinformation (like from the likes of Watson) has people believe that the Ukrainians did it instead.

    I'm well aware of the limitations that the Russians have but I know not to underestimate them as you do or be manipulated by them as you've become.

    Here's what former Supreme Commander of NATO, from just a few months ago, said before leaving the post:


    And one of the biggest fears of the Russians as they hosted the Sochi Winter Olympics was an Islamic terrorist attack, and to resolve the issue they helped grow ISIS...:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
    "Yet a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the “Russian special services have controlled” the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions. In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."
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    Oct 02, 2016 11:59 AM GMT
    TV5Monde was hacked by ISIS' CyberCaliphate and their channel and facebook was inoperative for 18 hours last year in April.
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    The channel did an investigation and found APT 28, or electronic signatures that indicated a Russian origin in the malware used to hack the channel, the malware being written in Russian and having a timezone related to Moscow, and not at all having anything in Arabic in spite of passing themselves as ISIS. The CyberCaliphate is also responsible for "death lists", which is really a ruse to distract the country in which the death lists target, Canadian death lists being in vogue at the moment, but this really has nothing to do with ISIS but the Artic where the Russians are installing numerous military bases there as we speak, and the Canadians have to distract themselves and go out and protect the tens of thousands of Canadians on these death lists (though no one has ever died from being on one yet, they still have to make an effort, right?). Now there is an onslaught of propaganda against Justin Trudeau from sources I believe to be Russian agents (your guy Paul Joseph Watson, might join them one day) and I really wonder if the Canadians have the capacity to deal with any of this at all?
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    Oct 02, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
    Ouh no, I don't really believe in Russian propaganda, I know that MH17 was shot by russian rebels which in reality was russian contractor army and Russia is directly responsible for war in Ukraine, but at the same time I am skeptical to some conspiracy theories ( while you seem to be fully in to them ) and not giving credit to them. Over exaggeration and blowing things out of proportion, distorting of facts works on both sides and spying is nothing new. And linking islamic terrorism with Russia is far stretched, islamic terrorism is happening all around the globe for centuries and rooted deeply into the religion, Russia might used it for it's own gain, but so does USA, but it does not stem from Russia or USA, you should be smarter than that, or maybe you are just some lunatic that believes that only cause of anything in this world is questionable and hidden behind conspiracy theories, sometimes you just have to use the common sense and obvious facts. Anyway, USA to war with middle east since 90' and gained almost nothing out of it, Trump is right, at least USA could had taken the oil, but Obama said the dates when USA is leaving Iraq, crazy.


    And about Hilaty and Paul Joseph Watson, haven't seen a video where he is twisting facts, Hilary has seizures, uncontrollable laughter, she suddenly becomes disoriented, uncontrollably coughs, loses conscience - there is something horribly wrong with her, you have quite a simple explanation for everything, every opinion you don't like or is against clinton becomes pro russian spies icon_lol.gif


    I mean I do believe that most things you posted are possibly true and Russia is part of the processes of things you stated, but Russia is not the reason for most of the things that happen, Russia is like a little fuel to the fire, but fire is burning for different reasons.
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    Oct 02, 2016 2:58 PM GMT

    We haven't heard from Jon since before our latin gays were massacred at Pulse Orlando, June pride month. Its possible he may have known someone who was killed or injured at this life changing event.

    Its sad but very true, this particular election and its extreme right wing vitriol has had long lasting changes, for better or worse among relationships. People revealing their true feelings in masse, taking sides, dividing the nation even further. I have warned that this election "is it", really, this is it. This decides the direction America will go (into 2050 or back to 1950). Its a very intense moment, tense times

    There are a few (middle) people who no longer participate on the RJ forums, my guess is they are still here though, watching...


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    Oct 02, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
    I am assuming that you think electing Trump would bring the USA back to 1950' icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 02, 2016 3:18 PM GMT
    Bonaparts saidI am assuming that you think electing Trump would bring the USA back to 1950' icon_lol.gif





    Yes, its the crazy christian thought that counts. The right wing lunatic take over is what scares people the most icon_redface.gif

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    Oct 02, 2016 3:30 PM GMT
    I am sorry but you are watching the Young Turks, that channel is pro islamic regressive left nonsense mostly, good that you are not worried about muslims taking over or implementing hate speech, because right wing christians would seem like heaven compared to some islamic rules and traditions and world will soon make no sense thanks to regressive left - everything will be racist, inflammatory, bigoted, fascistic, and phobic and of course privileged whites.


    But anyway, I am sure Clinton will win, because you are stronger together even with basket of deplorables.


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    Oct 02, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
    Bonaparts saidOuh no, I don't really believe in Russian propaganda, I know that MH17 was shot by russian rebels which in reality was russian contractor army and Russia is directly responsible for war in Ukraine, but at the same time I am skeptical to some conspiracy theories ( while you seem to be fully in to them ) and not giving credit to them. Over exaggeration and blowing things out of proportion, distorting of facts works on both sides and spying is nothing new. And linking islamic terrorism with Russia is far stretched, islamic terrorism is happening all around the globe for centuries and rooted deeply into the religion, Russia might used it for it's own gain, but so does USA, but it does not stem from Russia or USA, you should be smarter than that, or maybe you are just some lunatic that believes that only cause of anything in this world is questionable and hidden behind conspiracy theories, sometimes you just have to use the common sense and obvious facts. Anyway, USA to war with middle east since 90' and gained almost nothing out of it, Trump is right, at least USA could had taken the oil, but Obama said the dates when USA is leaving Iraq, crazy.


    You do realize that various German political parties just reported to have been hacked and APT 28 signatures have been found as well? From the TV5Monde ISIS hack, to ISIS death lists, to the Pentagon email hacks of last year, to Breedlove, who was just referenced in an earlier video here, and who has himself been hacked, to the current CIA Director Brennan getting hacked, etc, all of them are indicative of APT 28 (Advanced Persistent Threat) with the most infamous APT 28 case being the Guccifer 2.0 hacks of Hilary and the DNC. APT 28, from Fire-Eye the company brought in to examine the hacks:
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    And you need to realize that the predominant powers of the Middle East is Turkey, Iran and Israel and not Saudi Arabia or the Arabs. Saudi Arabia can't even win the war in Yemen and many nations are losing confidence in the country. Islamicism is simply incidental to a region that is so fraught with far stronger ethnic and cultural divisions, and some ethnic states, like Iran and Turkey being able to rely upon networks well beyond their countries borders. And unlike ISIS, they have the resources, manpower and capacity to restart an Islamic Caliphate if they so desired. Iran has an infrastructure of spies throughout the Middle East, which ISIS can only dream of having. Shia Islam, the state religion of Iran, actively supports the concept of "taqiyya", something akin to lying, deception, and subversion towards political goals. Things get accomplished without the enemy ever being wised to what happened. Openly announcing hatred or saying something like "Death to America" equals zero chances of that person and their associates being threats as it would warrant vigilance from intelligence agencies. If Islam ever takes over the West in Iranian form it will never be as overt as it is in the Youtube videos you watch about Muslims taking over the West. And the Iranian spy network has significantly undermined and subverted Arab power in the Middle East, and could be partly responsible for why the Arabs are losing the current war in Yemen and may soon be encircled by Iran and her proxies if the West does nothing. Turkey could also rely on shared Turkic cultural identity that is spread in more than 10 countries beyond Turkey itself. China and Russia have always feared potential Turkic insurgencies that can happen if a stronger Turkey or other Turkic power lends support to them. ISIS is a joke when they think they can found a caliphate with the resources that they have yet depend solely on foreign fighters and taxing subject populations (currently ruling some 8 million people) who simply resent them. And what amounts as ISIS recruitment online, or in person, the organization of cells, and generally terrorizing the West, are likely Russian operations in some form.

    You lack my own plasticity of mind, but there's a reason why Darwin published the Origin of Species so as to accustom people with the idea that human beings, like animals, can be deficit in the traits that can make them survive in a given environment. See Darwinism is simply a random and purposeless process of extermination and selection by trial and error (think of not being able to plan a bridge over a river that simply needs to be built straight across but requires a costly trial and error process of trying hundreds of different bridges until it arrives at one that is simply straight). I'll still try to make you or whoever I come across be aware of anything I know, but if the only way to reach you is to falsely compliment you or be nice to you, then it's simply better to let Darwinian processes take over and accept that people can't be receptive to my message.
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    Oct 02, 2016 3:59 PM GMT
    Bonaparts saidI am sorry but you are watching the Young Turks, that channel is pro islamic regressive left nonsense mostly, good that you are not worried about muslims taking over or implementing hate speech, because right wing christians would seem like heaven compared to some islamic rules and traditions and world will soon make no sense thanks to regressive left - everything will be racist, inflammatory, bigoted, fascistic, and phobic and of course privileged whites.


    But anyway, I am sure Clinton will win, because you are stronger together even with basket of deplorables.






    You still have lost the message entirely. The USA was NOT FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY, how many times do we have to say this before christians will accept it? Our laws are and have been secular based. The founding fathers made sure "we the people" recognize separating the religious from state governmental secular affairs. Given the history christianity has played in many wars, I think it was very prudent of them to keep government out of the belief business.

    If only the christians would stop attempting to dominate, control and power are difficult to give up when you have had it for so long. "Freedom of Religion" also means "Freedom from Religion". Christians are just mad, figuratively and literally that people, they once controlled, are and have been awakening to the truth(s) that this "church" has been hiding for centuries. You are free to practice whatever religion you want, but not at the expense of others who don't feel believe the same.

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    Bonaparts saidI am sorry but you are watching the Young Turks, that channel is pro islamic regressive left nonsense mostly, good that you are not worried about muslims taking over or implementing hate speech, because right wing christians would seem like heaven compared to some islamic rules and traditions and world will soon make no sense thanks to regressive left - everything will be racist, inflammatory, bigoted, fascistic, and phobic and of course privileged whites.


    But anyway, I am sure Clinton will win, because you are stronger together even with basket of deplorables.








    You still have lost the message entirely. The USA was NOT FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY, how many times do we have to say this before christians will accept it? Our laws are and have been secular based. The founding fathers made sure "we the people" recognize separating the religious from state governmental secular affairs. Given the history christianity has played in many wars, I think it was very prudent of them to keep government out of the belief business.

    If only the christians would stop attempting to dominate, control and power are difficult to give up when you have had it for so long. "Freedom of Religion" also means "Freedom from Religion". Christians are just mad, figuratively and literally that people, they once controlled, are and have been awakening to the truth(s) that this "church" has been hiding for centuries. You are free to practice whatever religion you want, but not at the expense of others who don't feel the same.

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    you are the one who brought christians up not me icon_rolleyes.gif you seem obsessed with christians
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    Bonaparts saidI am sorry but you are watching the Young Turks, that channel is pro islamic regressive left nonsense mostly, good that you are not worried about muslims taking over or implementing hate speech, because right wing christians would seem like heaven compared to some islamic rules and traditions and world will soon make no sense thanks to regressive left - everything will be racist, inflammatory, bigoted, fascistic, and phobic and of course privileged whites.


    But anyway, I am sure Clinton will win, because you are stronger together even with basket of deplorables.








    You still have lost the message entirely. The USA was NOT FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY, how many times do we have to say this before christians will accept it? Our laws are and have been secular based. The founding fathers made sure "we the people" recognize separating the religious from state governmental secular affairs. Given the history christianity has played in many wars, I think it was very prudent of them to keep government out of the belief business.

    If only the christians would stop attempting to dominate, control and power are difficult to give up when you have had it for so long. "Freedom of Religion" also means "Freedom from Religion". Christians are just mad, figuratively and literally that people, they once controlled, are and have been awakening to the truth(s) that this "church" has been hiding for centuries. You are free to practice whatever religion you want, but not at the expense of others who don't feel the same.

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    you are the one who brought christians up not me icon_rolleyes.gif you seem obsessed with christians





    I am not the one that suffers from OCD and or has control issues icon_rolleyes.gif



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    Oct 02, 2016 4:57 PM GMT
    It's nice that you are completely ok when muslim pastors advocate for killing of gays as mercy to them, as an act of compassion, most of them and the difference is muslims actually do it, in America, you seemed to be traumatized by christians that you don't even see a real lurking threat to gays, in every country where there is a muslim population. While in America, where majority or half of the nation are Christians you have the most liberties on the planet, the irony.

    ''Donald Trump has repeatedly not only in his private life but also in his public statements, stood up for homosexuals in ways that the progressive left never has. He came out immediately after Orlando with very strong, very inspiring statements in my view, about how we need to protect ourselves and the steps we need to take to protect gay people. What did Hillary Clinton do? Pander to and make excuses for Islam.'''



    Anyway you can all vote for Hilary, she can win and you can be happy, This thread is not about that anyway.