State of Minnesota health care system on verge of collapse


  • Oct 02, 2016 6:26 PM GMT
    Just like our NHS. This is from the local Minnesota television broadcaster.


    Minnesota health insurance market in 'emergency situation'

    T. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota's top health insurance regulator says the state's individual market is in "an emergency situation" amid big rate increases for next year.

    Department of Commerce Commissioner Mike Rothman said Friday that the five companies offering plans through the state's exchange or directly to consumers were prepared to leave the market for 2017. He said big rate increases were the tradeoff to convince all but one company to remain for now.

    Rate increases finalized this week range from a 50 percent average hike for HealthPartners plans to a 67 percent jump on average on UCare

    http://www.fox9.com/health/208893336-story
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    Oct 03, 2016 5:32 PM GMT
    Let me get this right....the health insurance providers aren't "making enough money" so they don't want to supply the jurisdiction? Their *profit* level is determining whether people can afford healthcare.....wow. Give me the occasionally inefficient Canadian single-payer system any day....

  • Oct 04, 2016 1:37 PM GMT
    Doctor9 saidLet me get this right....the health insurance providers aren't "making enough money" so they don't want to supply the jurisdiction? Their *profit* level is determining whether people can afford healthcare.....wow. Give me the occasionally inefficient Canadian single-payer system any day....

    No mate, you've got it wrong. The health insurance companies are losing billions. They will soon be out of business if they continue to lose all that money.
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    Oct 04, 2016 4:18 PM GMT
    HotBlokeWestminster said
    Doctor9 saidLet me get this right....the health insurance providers aren't "making enough money" so they don't want to supply the jurisdiction? Their *profit* level is determining whether people can afford healthcare.....wow. Give me the occasionally inefficient Canadian single-payer system any day....

    No mate, you've got it wrong. The health insurance companies are losing billions. They will soon be out of business if they continue to lose all that money.

    Absolute bullshit. They're making more money than they ever have, up over double digits. The particular segment involved in Obamacare isn't but their real motivation is because Obama has opposed the merger of two of the biggest insurance carriers stating the anti-competitive shrinkage in the market and they think this will force the FEDs to back down and allow the merger. The rest see an opportunity to steal what they can while the merger is fought. The insurance companies are scum and every time they don't get whatever they want they're screaming OBAMACARE and fools believe them. But I agree, the Canadian universal system is better. Our path to get there is is the "Single payor" buy-in to Medicare option that Hillary has proposed.
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    Oct 04, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
    The extreme reluctance of Americans to adopt a Canadian-style health care system is one thing that absolutely stumps me. I can think of numerous logical reasons why voters support Trump or Hillary despite their eyebrow-raising flaws but the thing with healthcare leaves me flummoxed.

    When I ponder it I'm inevitably drawn to the People of Walmart web site for an explanation that seems to hold water.

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    Oct 04, 2016 5:00 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    HotBlokeWestminster said
    Doctor9 saidLet me get this right....the health insurance providers aren't "making enough money" so they don't want to supply the jurisdiction? Their *profit* level is determining whether people can afford healthcare.....wow. Give me the occasionally inefficient Canadian single-payer system any day....

    No mate, you've got it wrong. The health insurance companies are losing billions. They will soon be out of business if they continue to lose all that money.

    Absolute bullshit. They're making more money than they ever have, up over double digits. The particular segment involved in Obamacare isn't but their real motivation is because Obama has opposed the merger of two of the biggest insurance carriers stating the anti-competitive shrinkage in the market and they think this will force the FEDs to back down and allow the merger. The rest see an opportunity to steal what they can while the merger is fought. The insurance companies are scum and every time they don't get whatever they want they're screaming OBAMACARE and fools believe them. But I agree, the Canadian universal system is better. Our path to get there is is the "Single payor" buy-in to Medicare option that Hillary has proposed.



    Perfectly quoted mate !! i agree with you a million time ..
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    Oct 04, 2016 5:09 PM GMT
    where is minnesota?
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    Oct 04, 2016 5:58 PM GMT
    pellaz saidwhere is minnesota?
    I hope that you are not serious with that question because if you don't know that Minnesota is a state in the union than you are typical Hillary supporter, a brain dead, dreamy eyed screwball.
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    Oct 04, 2016 6:42 PM GMT
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    pellaz saidwhere is minnesota?
    I hope that you are not serious with that question because if you don't know that Minnesota is a state in the union than you are typical Hillary supporter, a brain dead, dreamy eyed screwball.


    Would that be *unlike* a typical Trump supporter who blames Obama for not being on duty in the Oval Office on 9/11, when he wouldn't be *elected* for 7 more years? I know, they have to blame Obama for everything, but *really*? I saw the interview....scary scary...
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    Oct 04, 2016 6:48 PM GMT
    thanks but got road bike blocked, nice to figure he as someone to talk to.

  • Oct 06, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
    The Obamacare in the state of Tennessee is also on the verge of collapse.

    ObamaCare’s Meltdown Has Arrived

    With insurers pulling back, half of Tennesseans covered under the plan are losing their coverage.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/obamacares-meltdown-has-arrived-1475709560