Vice President Debate

  • metta

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    Oct 05, 2016 1:00 AM GMT
    Live Debate


    Part 2
    https://www.facebook.com/democracynow/videos/10154538632403279/

    https://www.facebook.com/democracynow/videos/10154538313138279/

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/live-blog-stream-pence-kaine-debate/index.html



    RNC blog says Pence wins debate before debate starts

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/05/rnc-blog-declares-mike-pence-winner-before-debate-tapper-sot.cnn
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    Oct 05, 2016 2:44 AM GMT
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    Mike Pence was the most presidential.

    Best answers to questions on problems created under Obama......

    ISIS
    exploding debt
    foreign policy failures
    hatred of police
    immigration out of control
    cyber warfare
    North Korea nukes
    lack of good paying jobs
    increasing taxes
    slow economy
    obamacare

    If tonight showed us anything.....it's that Hillary and Obama are total failures.

    Time for a change.

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    Oct 05, 2016 2:51 AM GMT
    Has Pence yet met Trump?
  • mwolverine

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    Oct 05, 2016 6:44 AM GMT
    S2Ki said
    Mike Pence was the most presidential.

    Yes, moreso than Trump for sure.
    But this was the VP debate.
    I think this was the kickoff for Pense 2020.
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    Oct 05, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
    mwolverine said
    S2Ki said
    Mike Pence was the most presidential.

    Yes, moreso than Trump for sure.
    But this was the VP debate.
    I think this was the kickoff for Pense 2020.


    A successful entrepreneur chooses the best people....and Mike Pence shows why Trump will be a successful president.

    Trump built a business fortune on picking the best and leading them. They even built a successful TV show (14 seasons) on his talent. Wollman rink is another example......Trump got it done in 4 months......while crony NYC politicians spent years and millions NOT doing it. Click the link below and read about it.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/offwhitepapers/2015/08/24/donald-trump-and-the-wollman-rinking-of-american-politics/#1622887e26b2


    Who will choose the best...

    generals
    negotiators
    attorneys
    engineers
    managers
    doctors
    financial experts, etc.

    Certainly not Hillary. She will pick her usual cronies and hacks, who will enrich themselves at the continued cost of our failing republic.
  • mwolverine

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    Oct 05, 2016 2:47 PM GMT
    Trump's only record is enriching himself - to everyone else's detriment.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 05, 2016 3:39 PM GMT
    Mike Pence gave us solid proof tonight that Trump has good judgement by picking him as his VP choice
  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 05, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidMike Pence gave us solid proof tonight that Trump has good judgement by picking him as his VP choice

    Because he's a better liar the Trump? lol After the truth squad tallies up how many lies he told that we have video records of Trump absolutely saying, Hillary will have all the visuals she needs to break him. The split screen videos are already coming out of Hillary's campaign with Pence denying that Trump said something they have video of him saying, clearly. You know Pence and Trump want to reverse our right to marry, don't you? You don't care?
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    Oct 05, 2016 5:15 PM GMT
    They say Pence won it, but both candidates were awful, as was the moderator.
    Climate change, Wall Street, poverty, and income inequality didn't even get a mention.

    Instead you had both candidates talking a lot about how much they hate Russia, how difficult is the task facing American police, which one loves Reagan the most, and who would be a better friend to the right-wing government of Israel.

    It could have been a debate from 1984, as much as a debate from 2016.

    Bernie was the best of a bad bunch, but the only progressive in the race is Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party (Ajamu Baraka would have wiped the floor with those two).

    Just a shame she won't get a look-in, even with the Republican-Democrat duopoly running the most uninspiring two candidates for President in living memory.
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 05, 2016 5:50 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    CuriousJockAZ saidMike Pence gave us solid proof tonight that Trump has good judgement by picking him as his VP choice

    Because he's a better liar the Trump? lol After the truth squad tallies up how many lies he told that we have video records of Trump absolutely saying, Hillary will have all the visuals she needs to break him. The split screen videos are already coming out of Hillary's campaign with Pence denying that Trump said something they have video of him saying, clearly. You know Pence and Trump want to reverse our right to marry, don't you? You don't care?


    Reversing marriage equality can't be done by Trump or Pence, their Republican defenders like to say.
    Trump/Pence would have to appoint judges to the SCOTUS to reverse marriage equality;
    they have both promised to do exactly that.

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 06, 2016 4:51 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidYou know Pence and Trump want to reverse our right to marry, don't you? You don't care?


    No, I don't know any such thing and I certainly don't believe it. I think the whole Gay Marriage issue is basically a nonissue at this point. I have no doubt that a President Trump would be a friend to the LGBT community.
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:20 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-trump-didnt-say_us_57f49732e4b015995f2c171a?

    All The Things Mike Pence Said Trump Didn’t Say, He Did
    Donald Trump has said a lot of outrageous things. Mike Pence denies Trump said them. He did. Here’s proof.
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:25 PM GMT
    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/26/hoosiers-reacting-sex-marriage-ruling/29329915/

    Gov. Mike Pence 'disappointed' in marriage equality ruling
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:27 PM GMT
    Mike Pence’s Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak

    Pence first laid the groundwork for Indiana’s HIV outbreak as a congressman back in 2011, when the House passed his amendment to defund Planned Parenthood. Then in 2013, Pence’s first year as governor of Indiana, Scott County’s one Planned Parenthood closed in the wake of public health spending cuts. Since that particular Planned Parenthood was also the county’s only HIV testing center, there was no longer a place for the county’s 24,000 residents to get tested.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_us_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef
  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:30 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Destinharbor saidYou know Pence and Trump want to reverse our right to marry, don't you? You don't care?


    No, I don't know any such thing and I certainly don't believe it. I think the whole Gay Marriage issue is basically a nonissue at this point. I have no doubt that a President Trump would be a friend to the LGBT community.

    This is delusional. Pence is extremely anti-gay, Santorum is an advisor, He'll likely get several Supreme Court appointments and have the opportunity to take the Court backwards for a generation. Including reversing Roe V Wade and gay marriage. You like the way it was in the 50's, eh?
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
    Trump hopes for reversal on same-sex-marriage

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-iowa-caucuses-marriage-218471

    If I’m elected I would be very strong in putting certain judges on the bench that maybe could change thing, but they have a long way to go," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:44 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Destinharbor saidYou know Pence and Trump want to reverse our right to marry, don't you? You don't care?


    No, I don't know any such thing and I certainly don't believe it. I think the whole Gay Marriage issue is basically a nonissue at this point. I have no doubt that a President Trump would be a friend to the LGBT community.


    Agreed. Plus, the religious right is focused on how muslims treat Christians overseas.

    As for Trump/Pence, their plan is to solve the deep crisis the US is now in. Eight years ago, who would have believed....

    - Terrorist attacks on US soil are a monthly event?
    - National debt doubled to 19.5 billion dollars?
    - ISIS rising from the very lands our soldiers had secured?
    - Russia is talking direct war with the US?
    - Worst economic recovery since WWII?

    Foolish Tim Kaine says don't worry, because Bin Ladin is dead. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
    Donald Trump’s Tax Plan Could Tack $10 Trillion onto America’s Debt

    http://fortune.com/2016/03/08/donald-trumps-tax-plan-primary/


    Trump plans to bankrupt us by giving himself more tax breaks.
    He and Pence are also eager to reverse gay marriage equality to please their right wing religious supporters.
    So remind me why any gay man should vote for these double douches?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 07, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
    Geoffreysays said

    Trump plans to bankrupt us by giving himself more tax breaks.

    Not True....Trump's Tax plan includes tax breaks across the board including for corporations

    Geoffreysays said

    He and Pence are also eager to reverse gay marriage equality to please their right wing religious supporters.

    Donald Trump is the most gay-friendly GOP nominee probably ever. Granted, he may have had to say certain things along the way to getting the nomination to appease evangelicals and others, but, if you listened to Trump's convention speech, you would know that Trump is a friend of the LGBT community, as he has been for decades


    Geoffreysays said

    So remind me why any gay man should vote for these double douches?

    Remind me why we any gay man would vote for a candidate who all too willingly takes millions of dollars in donations from countries who kill gays? Remind me why we shouldn't be concerned about "gay safety" as much as "gay rights"? Remind me where it's written that all gays are required to put gay issues above and beyond any other important issues in our lives?
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 07, 2016 5:07 PM GMT

    Donald Trump Hopes to Reverse Same Sex Marriage

    Presidential candidate Donald Trump is not shy about sharing his views on same sex marriage. On Sunday, January 31, in an interview with Fox News Sunday’s Chris Wallace, Trump revealed that he disagrees with the legalization of same-sex marriage and went on to say, “It has been ruled upon. It has been there. If I’m elected, I would be very strong in putting certain judges on the bench that maybe could change things, but they have a long way to go.”

    To clarify the statement, Wallace followed with, “Are you saying that if you become President you might try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage?” in which the Republican candidate answered, “I would strongly consider that, yes.”

    http://www.marriage.com/blog/breaking-news/donald-trump-hopes-to-reverse-same-sex-marriage/

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 07, 2016 5:29 PM GMT
    I'm not the least bit worried about Trump (or anyone else) reversing "Gay Marriage". This is a non-issue, and it would be political suicide for anyone to try and reverse this.
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 07, 2016 5:39 PM GMT
    Trump has made it clear that he will cave into political pressure from the religious right.
    Pence has made it clear that he intends to represent the religious right.

    POLITICAL SUICIDE is a gay man voting for his avowed enemies.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 07, 2016 5:57 PM GMT
    Geoffreysays saidTrump has made it clear that he will cave into political pressure from the religious right.
    Pence has made it clear that he intends to represent the religious right.

    POLITICAL SUICIDE is a gay man voting for his avowed enemies.


    Trump will not be caving to anybody when it comes to gay rights. I feel quite confident about that. The Supreme Court has ruled. I don't consider this an issue any longer
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 07, 2016 6:26 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Geoffreysays saidTrump has made it clear that he will cave into political pressure from the religious right.
    Pence has made it clear that he intends to represent the religious right.

    POLITICAL SUICIDE is a gay man voting for his avowed enemies.


    Trump will not be caving to anybody when it comes to gay rights.
    I feel quite confident about that.
    The Supreme Court has ruled.
    I don't consider this an issue any longer


    Your feelings and considerations may not guide a Trump/Pence administration.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 07, 2016 7:31 PM GMT
    Geoffreysays saidYour feelings and considerations may not guide a Trump/Pence administration.


    True, but I do think the feelings of the American people will, and the majority of the American people are fine with gay marriage. I can't imagine that they would rock the boat with something that would be so unpopular. Not gonna happen.