I Just Decided - Let's Head Out of Dodge - EDIT: He Just Undecided Me

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    Oct 06, 2016 2:43 AM GMT
    I would have gone tomorrow, before the storm hits. But he wants to stay here, protect the place as it hits, and mop up any mess.

    OK, but our regular suite n Key West is available. We can have it Friday if he wishes, instead. For 4 or 5 days, even a week, whatever he likes. We need a break, from a lot of things going on.

    He replied he doesn't want to take our car down there, it's getting kinda iffy. Really? I didn't know that. OK, I'll rent one. And with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.

    I just don't like us to be under stress. This hurricane is enough. We'll stay here to insure the place is safe, and then we take off as soon as the storm passes. I won't care if the electricity is out, and the A/C, we won't be here.

    I can read his stress, and it's peaking. Time to just get him away to a peaceful place he loves. The Keys weren't touched by this storm. We'll stay there for 4, 5, as many days as he wants or needs.

    The online reservations system wouldn't work tonight. So tomorrow I'll phone at the crack of their business day. It also allows me to get personal discounts that aren't offered online. I think we're going to Key West. YAY!!!
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    Oct 06, 2016 3:28 AM GMT
    GET OUT NOW!!!

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/nearly-2m-urged-to-evacuate-as-matthew-edges-toward-us/ar-BBx0VuD?li=BBnb7Kz
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    Oct 06, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
    WestCoastJock said
    Sounds like you are kidnapping your husband. Another example of elder abuse.

    Why don't you just admit that YOU can't handle the storm. He seems to be able to handle it just fine. Or else his dementia has lulled him into a sense of serenity.

    Yep, taking him to Key West as a surprise gift, his favorite Florida getaway, sure is abusing him. We won't go if he really doesn't want to. And then a new car, how awful does it get? You should ask a Florida prosecutor to charge me. Too bad you don't have anyone to "abuse" you like that.

    Maybe if you were a real person with a real pic someone might shower some of their terrible abuse on you, too. Nah, on second thought I doubt it.
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    GET OUT NOW!!!

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/nearly-2m-urged-to-evacuate-as-matthew-edges-toward-us/ar-BBx0VuD?li=BBnb7Kz

    We've decided to sit it out in place. Looks like we're far enough from the ocean to not be placed under a legal mandatory evacuation order.
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    Oct 06, 2016 3:57 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidAnd with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.

    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.

    And you've got a lot of jealously issues. What, no one to buy YOU anything? Poor baby!
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    Oct 06, 2016 3:59 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said...if you were a real person with a real pic someone might shower some of their terrible abuse on you, too. Nah, on second thought I doubt it


    Art, got to start putting these members on Ignore.
    ya i know but
    no matter what you post they will replay the same way.

    if you can still read this; serious best wishes with the storm.
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    Oct 06, 2016 4:28 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    ...if you were a real person with a real pic someone might shower some of their terrible abuse on you, too. Nah, on second thought I doubt it

    Art, got to start putting these members on Ignore.
    ya i know but
    no matter what you post they will replay the same way.

    if you can still read this; serious best wishes with the storm.

    Thank you! Posting on the iPad from a restaurant having lunch, still open. Will be leaving for home shortly. Everything done there, except to remove the satellite dish.

    You're likely correct about them. They're just troublemakers here, who contribute nothing to RJ but their nastiness.

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    Oct 06, 2016 5:42 PM GMT
    WestCoastJock saidWhy don't you show your husband all the things you write here about him? How he is irresponsible with his credit card. How he was responsible for using ground beef that had been left out on the counter and caused food poisoning. How you were going to force him to go to Key West. How you are going to buy a BIG car no matter how much he disagrees. How you refer to him as your husband when he isn't.

    He has his own RJ account that I created for him years ago, he can read anything posted here as he wishes. And almost nothing I mention here about him isn't something I've already discussed with him, and often with our local friends, as well.

    Although I can be a little less "diplomatic" in my language about him here, than I am with our friends, since we're both anonymous entities to most of you. Except for those we've met in person.

    But he knows about the bigger car, I've told him. He's not the car person, gives me free reign in that regard. Although he did express a strong preference last time, which I honored. I told him this time we'll try different. And after all, it IS my money, not his, yet last time I put the car in his name, making it a gift, full cash purchase.

    He's not being "forced" to go to Key West, I merely came up with the sudden suggestion, I believe for his own well-being. ***I'm*** the one gonna be doing all the work, paying for it, renting a car if he wants, doing the driving. If he says absolutely not then we don't go. Not a kidnapping.

    As for the food poisoning, HE'S the one who initially speculated that cause. Not me. Regardless of what your selective & biased memory may be recalling.
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    Oct 06, 2016 6:22 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidAnd with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.


    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.


    Very astute observation. Just to give you a bit of background on Art_deco and cars.....he used to brag about the large, luxurious automobiles owned by his father in the 1950's and how he loved driving them. He also ridiculed a poster whose father drove Fords, saying how his mother would scoff at such cars. Now we read about his car situation, and we understand his anger issues. Karma's a bitch, huh?

    Then again, maybe he just needs a bigger car for his fat ass...haha.


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    Oct 07, 2016 5:52 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    And with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.

    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.

    Very astute observation. Just to give you a bit of background on Art_deco and cars.....he used to brag about the large, luxurious automobiles owned by his father in the 1950's and how he loved driving them. He also ridiculed a poster whose father drove Fords, saying how his mother would scoff at such cars. Now we read about his car situation, and we understand his anger issues. Karma's a bitch, huh?

    Then again, maybe he just needs a bigger car for his fat ass...haha.

    Do you just make this stuff up? My Father's cars weren't "large, luxurious automobiles". He was such a terrible driver, always bashing his cars up, that he got my Mother's hand-me-down cars, and not always then. He sometimes had to buy used, if he totally wrecked his car, because my Mother wouldn't give him hers, or if he didn't want it. One of the few exceptions was his 1953 Buick Roadmaster, kinda big but I'd hardly term it luxurious. And not even attractive after he'd owned it for a few years. He had a gift for trashing cars both inside & out.

    The car my Mother didn't like was Chevrolets, which she viewed as an uncomfortable, unreliable, underpowered economy car. But then she wasn't a fan of Cadillacs, either, and virtually anything Ford. I think it had to do more with Henry Ford's politics than the cars themselves. She liked Chrysler products, and she drove enormous Imperials until they stopped making them.

    But my Father didn't always like driving her cars, except when all 4 of us were going somewhere together, or just the 2 of them. They both felt it better if the husband was seen behind the steering wheel, rather than his wife driving, with him as the passenger. Yet the only accidents my Mother's cars ever suffered were with my Father driving. She never had an accident of her own during my life, I never even saw her have a close call, a rather good driver.

    So good, in fact, that in 1943 she drove solo from the NYC area down to Louisiana to visit her younger brother training there at an Army camp (my namesake Robert, later killed in France following Normandy). Then continued on across the US Southwest to Southern California, where she visited an Army Air Corps (USAF predecessor) pilot she'd met on leave, to whom she became engaged at one point. And also my future Father, likewise stationed there in the Air Corps, whom she had known years earlier from New Jersey.

    Then drove herself all the way back. No highways, badly marked roads with poor maps, not many gas stations through the desert States, or rest stops or places to eat. She told me she had to change her own flat tires several times, a more common occurrence back then. Manual transmission, no power steering or brakes, no air conditioning through the desert, only able to manage a few hundred miles a day under those earlier driving limitations. A daunting physical challenge for a man at that time, much more so for a young female driving alone.

    One tough cookie, my Mother. Smarter than anything, would excel at anything she tried. And she later did things in the 1950s that were kinda groundbreaking & radical for women. So as she got older and began to get a little finicky in her likes & dislikes, for instance with cars, it could be overlooked within the family. In a sense she had earned the privilege.
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    Oct 07, 2016 6:38 AM GMT
    I spoke with the hubby earlier, now that the hurricane has passed us with no damage to our place. I reminded him our regular suite in Key West was available, and at an attractive price.

    He declined. I thought maybe he needed a break from here, but his concern was his left hip, which has gotten increasingly worse. He's worried he's gonna hafta have that one replaced, like he did his right. But whatever is causing his pain, he's not sure he can handle going out of town. He always has veto power over these actions. I may want something, but he can override me.

    He also said this unpredictable hurricane is now projected to do a "U-turn" off North Caroline, and head back south! Maybe swing here again. He doesn't want to go out of town if that's a possibility.

    Plus we've already got reservations for that same suite in November for a week, and again in December-January for the New Year's Eve celebration there, which gets kinda wild. We're also taking a friend along for New Year's, so I got 2 of the only 4 rooms/suites on the balcony where the "Sushi Drop" (Sushi's a drag queen's name) is held, that you might see on CNN TV. You gotta make those reservations a year in advance. Actually all of our reservations there are usually made a year in advance, this month would have been an exception, but available.

    Sushi gets slowly lowered (hopefully not literally dropped) down to the sidewalk from our balcony, sitting inside a giant red high heel shoe at midnight, just as the Times Square ball is lowering in NYC. It's become a Key West tradition, Duval Street closed & packed with thousands in attendance.

    Our 84-year-old friend lives in an elderly care place, but still can leave freely. This may be his last gay hurrah, so we wanted to arrange this for him. Plus we get to enjoy it, too, something we've never done. I made all the arrangements for him, I'll do the driving, just like last time when we took him down to Key West, which he loved.

    The issue of abandoned elderly or otherwise lonely or even abused LGBT is currently a hot topic, but we do what we can to mitigate that situation. We're right at that point ourselves, so we can identify.

    And this guy, whom we see at lunch most weekdays, says that since he ran into us and our circle of friends he's never been happier. Actually he first met my husband 60 years ago in Boston. He gladly skips the meals served in the dining room of his own place, to be with all of us fellow gays. And we try to keep him laughing, engaged and smiling the whole time.

    He paid hundreds of thousands to be at his exclusive residence, plus $2500 a month maintenance fee ( icon_exclaim.gif ), gets every kind of service including medical, has a nice apartment, beautiful place we've visited. But it's sterile there, dead, Heaven's waiting room, no place for a gay man whose mind is still active.

    So we've kinda adopted him, had him over to our home for dinner, taken him down to Key West for a week (his first time), solve problems for him, every kind of thing you do to help guys. And now our other friends help, too. So he's got quite a support network going. This is what you do for the elderly LGBT. The opposite of elderly abuse, a possible hidden issue in our gay community.
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    Oct 07, 2016 8:04 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    WestCoastJock said
    Art_Deco saidAnd with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.

    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.

    And you've got a lot of jealously issues. What, no one to buy YOU anything? Poor baby!


    Assuming you're telling the truth about all of your tangible acquisitions, it sounds like you are the breadwinner in the relationship. And with all the fascinating stories of you bailing out your husband by paying off his exorbitant credit card bills, or all the expensive kitchen gadgets you buy for him it appears you found someone to love you for all the right reasons.

    !$$Kaching$$!




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    Oct 07, 2016 8:39 AM GMT
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    Assuming you're telling the truth about all of your tangible acquisitions, it sounds like you are the breadwinner in the relationship. And with all the fascinating stories of you bailing out your husband by paying off his exorbitant credit card bills, or all the expensive kitchen gadgets you buy for him it appears you found someone to love you for all the right reasons.

    !$$Kaching$$!

    Actually he can support himself well enough. I'm living in HIS mortgage-free condo, after all, I ought to pay my fair share. The things I give him are things that please him, and so therefore please me. And frankly, I usually see some benefits from them, too. I sometimes use those "expensive kitchen gadgets" myself, since they're sitting there. He's their main user, but I'm allowed, as well. I love them as fascinating mechanical toys, not because of any passion I have for food preparation like he has.

    You clearly don't understand relationships very well, and how they work. Your nearly empty RJ profile doesn't tell us, but if you have a partner, or when you acquire one, you might begin to comprehend what mutual love is.

    I didn't have to buy his love, he loved me before I had given him a single dime. Rather, initially he was giving ME money, and took me into his life and home without any expectations, HIS charity case. I can play my cards close to my chest when I want. I guess you could call it deceitful. But I've been taken advantage of before.

    But as soon as he brought into this condo, and made me his partner, I promptly began to buy him things. The biggest being a new car, cash, in his name, to demonstrate it was his alone, not a loaner from me that I could take back. His permanently.

    Knocked his socks off. Had no idea this guy he thought might be virtually homeless could do that. And I've been rewarding him for his selfless kindness to me ever since. I'm not buying his love, I'm returning his own for me.

    Now maybe when you're in a similar situation with an LTR, partner or husband you'll begin to understand this. But until that happens I don't think you're in a good position to be second-guessing me.
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    Oct 07, 2016 8:44 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidAnd with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.


    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.


    Tottaly agree, and Bobby Boo boo, projects that onto those of us at RJ, that the little fellow beholds contemp for.
    He can't tell me I'm jealous, calling the Worlds most livable City home, in a relationship over a quarter of a century long; no doubt something Our Bobby will never experience. Oh and he gave me 3 week's in Hawaii for ones last major B'day.

    Can't help feeling there is somthing sociopathic about our Bobby Boo boo. Oh and taking advantage to undo a Carmine's wish, to get his own; how sad, how controling. What would mummy think if she could come back for a day, and see what a deplorable, grotesque common little man, her son has growing into.
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    Oct 07, 2016 8:58 AM GMT
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    Tottaly agree, and Bobby Boo boo, projects that onto those of us at RJ, that the little fellow beholds contemporary for.
    He can't tell me I'm jealous, calling the Worlds most livable City home, ina relationship over a quarter of a century long; no doubt something Our Bobby will never experience. Oh and he have me 3 week's in Hawaii for ones last major B'day.

    Can't help feeling there is somthing sociopathic about our Bobby Boo boo. Oh and taking advantage to undo a Carmine wish, to get his own; how sad.

    I thought at one point you told us you had 2 husbands at once? What happened to the other one? Your husbands seem to come and go.

    And one made you an American by default, or some ancestors of yours did. Plus you had once set foot in the country, now described as Hawaii, which really makes you the superior expert on all things US. So that you can confidently blather about all your crackpot observations regarding the American scene here. Along with your totally wacky revisions of our US history.
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    Art_Deco said
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    Tottaly agree, and Bobby Boo boo, projects that onto those of us at RJ, that the little fellow beholds contemporary for.
    He can't tell me I'm jealous, calling the Worlds most livable City home, ina relationship over a quarter of a century long; no doubt something Our Bobby will never experience. Oh and he have me 3 week's in Hawaii for ones last major B'day.

    Can't help feeling there is somthing sociopathic about our Bobby Boo boo. Oh and taking advantage to undo a Carmine wish, to get his own; how sad.

    I thought at one point you told us you had 2 husbands at once? What happened to the other one? Your husbands seem to come and go.

    And one made you an American by default, or some ancestors of yours did. Plus you had once set foot in the country, now described as Hawaii, which really makes you the superior expert on all things US. So that you can confidently blather about all your crackpot observations regarding the American scene here. Along with your totally wacky revisions of our US history.


    And others have written here that you have NO husband. Why don't you actually marry the guy?

    You know, his boyfriend doesn't acknowledge Bobby as a boyfriend on FB. The term marriage is nothing but a from of status to our Bobby Boo boo, just ask his ex wives.
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    Oct 08, 2016 3:56 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
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    Art_Deco said
    And with that opening I'll buy us a new one. This time something of MY choosing. A nice big car, that he probably won't like. Well, last time I got a little compact, to please him, and I've had enough of that. Now I get MY turn.

    You have a lot of pent-up anger issues you need to work through.

    Very astute observation. Just to give you a bit of background on Art_deco and cars.....he used to brag about the large, luxurious automobiles owned by his father in the 1950's and how he loved driving them. He also ridiculed a poster whose father drove Fords, saying how his mother would scoff at such cars. Now we read about his car situation, and we understand his anger issues. Karma's a bitch, huh?

    Then again, maybe he just needs a bigger car for his fat ass...haha.

    Do you just make this stuff up? My Father's cars weren't "large, luxurious automobiles". He was such a terrible driver, always bashing his cars up, that he got my Mother's hand-me-down cars, and not always then. He sometimes had to buy used, if he totally wrecked his car, because my Mother wouldn't give him hers, or if he didn't want it. One of the few exceptions was his 1953 Buick Roadmaster, kinda big but I'd hardly term it luxurious. And not even attractive after he'd owned it for a few years. He had a gift for trashing cars both inside & out.

    The car my Mother didn't like was Chevrolets, which she viewed as an uncomfortable, unreliable, underpowered economy car. But then she wasn't a fan of Cadillacs, either, and virtually anything Ford. I think it had to do more with Henry Ford's politics than the cars themselves. She liked Chrysler products, and she drove enormous Imperials until they stopped making them.

    [snip]


    Ah Bobby....I wrote "large, luxurious"....and you say they're enormous.

    But let's take a walk down memory lane, shall we?

    On Sep 09, 2013 6:33 PM....
    ART_DECO
    First of all, you douchebag, my family owned these exclusive cars. as you already know. It's what I grew up with.

    They are not PIMPerials, as you insist on calling them, but Imperials.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3432662


    And later on at Nov 26, 2013 3:23 PM
    ART_DECO
    As for "PIMPalas" or any Chevrolet, my Mother wouldn't even get into one. All her life, whenever I went to buy a car, she always advised me against getting anything "common" and especially a Chevy. I never did.


    ART_DECOSo you can take your poor man's Pontiacs and shove them up your ass. When I was a teenager Pontiacs were what disadvantaged kids had to drive.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3555927?forumpage=2

    WestCoastJock is right.....you have serious anger issues.

    An angry fat man in a little "sketchy" car. Maybe a Clinton sticker too?

    I'm not making fun of you. Everybody has crosses to bear, but honestly, yours are worse than most. My opinion? I think your obsession with the relative wealth of your childhood, and how you mock and demean others is self defeating and exposes your unresolved and deep rooted psychological issues. That you desire a "big car" and ridicule other types of cars (just like mom did - sound familiar?) tells me that you never separated from mom in a healthy way. And no wonder....your father seemed quite autocratic and domineering, and likely competed with you for mom's attention. You mention that your father was "messy" and a "poor driver".....strong unconscious sexual overtones right there....shows your unresolved anger toward him, and still an unconscious desire to castrate or even kill him.

    Now as an adult you view other men as a threat, because your daddy issues are unresolved. Your mocking of other men's cars shows how you feel powerless, and you subconsciously desire to castrate them to get even. This even spills over to your partner. You exposing his numerous faults on here is another example of your desire to castrate. It also spills over into your politics....with your obsessive support for the Democrat Party. Most Democrat issues are really just unconscious desires to castrate men...."take away the guns" and "make cars shorter and less powerful" and "pass tax laws to cut large paychecks" ...all issues that disproportionately affect men.

    Please read up on the Oedipus complex and try to find a good therapist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex
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    Oct 08, 2016 6:24 AM GMT
    WestCoastJock saidWhy don't you show your husband all the things you write here about him? How he is irresponsible with his credit card. How he was responsible for using ground beef that had been left out on the counter and caused food poisoning. How you were going to force him to go to Key West. How you are going to buy a BIG car no matter how much he disagrees. How you refer to him as your husband when he isn't.


    Honestly, can you please crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and stop posting here? I'm sure there are nasty ass salmon smoothies elsewhere. While I don't post hardly at all, you make for some terrible reading. Go away you little, short, bitter, nasty little troll. There's crap flavored smoothies wherever you choose to go you autistic piece of crap. Although calling you autistic gives genuinely autistic people a bad name. I hope you run out of kale for your full of fat salmon smoothies.
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    Oct 08, 2016 8:57 AM GMT
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    Tottaly agree, and Bobby Boo boo, projects that onto those of us at RJ, that the little fellow beholds contemporary for.
    He can't tell me I'm jealous, calling the Worlds most livable City home, ina relationship over a quarter of a century long; no doubt something Our Bobby will never experience. Oh and he have me 3 week's in Hawaii for ones last major B'day.

    Can't help feeling there is somthing sociopathic about our Bobby Boo boo. Oh and taking advantage to undo a Carmine wish, to get his own; how sad.

    I thought at one point you told us you had 2 husbands at once? What happened to the other one? Your husbands seem to come and go.

    And one made you an American by default, or some ancestors of yours did. Plus you had once set foot in the country, now described as Hawaii, which really makes you the superior expert on all things US. So that you can confidently blather about all your crackpot observations regarding the American scene here. Along with your totally wacky revisions of our US history.

    Yes Bobby Boo boo, one has been blessed in life to of been so deeply loved, and yes by two men for about twelve years, and one was to share here the death of my Russian man. That left me with my American man. No One ever made one An American, as I'm proudly a True Blue Aussie. But one does have a long family history in America, on both sides of ones family tree. Yep, town's, streets, Boulevards, even a State Park Named after us. Embarrassingly, we even had a Democrat Governor, who also supported prohibition. Oh how I love the Islands of Hawaii, and Mount Kea, one has also been on Mainland America a number of times now too. But would never give up my life Down Under to live there. Yes you have resented and attacked one, for talking about America, because your stuck in the time zone of the 40s, 50s. But America is not Gret anymore, and Obama has created the Divided States of America.
    But one is not responsible for your pompous narcissism, and you delusions of grandeur. Or your many, many years living as a self loathing bisexual, looking down on us Bona Fide Homosexuals, as something dirty and beneath you. Something you did attempt to blame one for. Doing a Hilary and projecting again; you sad little man.
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    Oct 08, 2016 11:58 AM GMT
    Bobby Boo boo. As for being so loved for 12 years, by a Russian, and an American is fine as a Bona Fide Homosexual. Since unlike you, one has never had access to marriage. So why live by a hetrosexual moral code. But at the end of the day, you will never experience being loved so deeply or wholly, as I have. Jealous much. Doesn't take away one has also been with the same man for over a quarter of a century. You could of experience the same joy, but you made other lifestyle choices.
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    Oct 08, 2016 3:42 PM GMT
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    WestCoastJock saidWhy don't you show your husband all the things you write here about him? How he is irresponsible with his credit card. How he was responsible for using ground beef that had been left out on the counter and caused food poisoning. How you were going to force him to go to Key West. How you are going to buy a BIG car no matter how much he disagrees. How you refer to him as your husband when he isn't.


    Honestly, can you please crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and stop posting here? I'm sure there are nasty ass salmon smoothies elsewhere. While I don't post hardly at all, you make for some terrible reading. Go away you little, short, bitter, nasty little troll. There's crap flavored smoothies wherever you choose to go you autistic piece of crap. Although calling you autistic gives genuinely autistic people a bad name. I hope you run out of kale for your full of fat salmon smoothies.
    Why are you beating up on WestCoastJock when he is actually stating nothing but the absolute truth about Fart Deco. If anyone needs to stop posting on these forums, it is Fart Deco and all his loyal sycophants and apologists. If you really knew anything about Art, you would quickly realize that he is an opinionated, miserable, old goat who gets all bent out of shape when you debate issues with him and if you disagree with him on just about anything. I gave up on that man quite a while ago and have him on ignore.
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    Oct 10, 2016 1:27 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said

    Now maybe when you're in a similar situation with an LTR, partner or husband you'll begin to understand this. But until that happens I don't think you're in a good position to be second-guessing me.


    Don't presume to know anything about my life. Just because I don't litter the RJ forums with a half a dozen threads about my personal life on a daily basis, the way in which you do here constantly, doesn't mean you're entitled to make assumptions about me. I've been in a loving relationship for nearly three years.

    Let us not forget; you once were married to a woman because you made the conscious willful choice to be in the closet. Would you have lectured me back then on relationships? Especially, considering now that she along with your children, from that sham of a marriage, want nothing to do with you.

    In any event, I'm happy for you. You finally found a way to keep a mate by your side....for a price. icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 10, 2016 5:12 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    Art_Deco said
    Now maybe when you're in a similar situation with an LTR, partner or husband you'll begin to understand this. But until that happens I don't think you're in a good position to be second-guessing me.

    Don't presume to know anything about my life. Just because I don't litter the RJ forums with a half a dozen threads about my personal life on a daily basis, the way in which you do here constantly, doesn't mean you're entitled to make assumptions about me. I've been in a loving relationship for nearly three years.

    Let us not forget; you once were married to a woman because you made the conscious willful choice to be in the closet. Would you have lectured me back then on relationships? Especially, considering now that she along with your children, from that sham of a marriage, want nothing to do with you.

    In any event, I'm happy for you. You finally found a way to keep a mate by your side....for a price. icon_razz.gif

    Oh, we're not entitled to make assumptions about you, but you can assume I was in the closet? False, I never was. And my marriage was no sham, at least not from my viewpoint. Until I realized she wanted me for my money, and little more. Which isn't much. She still does. So in that sense she does continue to want something to do with me - money.

    We had marital difficulties, becoming estranged and then separated, for the usual reasons. I didn't even know I was gay at the time, and so obviously couldn't have told her. When I did come out to myself, and did tell her, she became enraged. A not uncommon reaction of wives. And she's been looking for revenge ever since. Turning our young sons against me is one way.

    But if you wanna throw that painful aspect of my failed marriage at me in public here, fine. It merely demonstrates was a piece of filth you are. Have a nice day, dirtbag. icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 10, 2016 6:28 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    Art_Deco said
    Now maybe when you're in a similar situation with an LTR, partner or husband you'll begin to understand this. But until that happens I don't think you're in a good position to be second-guessing me.

    Don't presume to know anything about my life. Just because I don't litter the RJ forums with a half a dozen threads about my personal life on a daily basis, the way in which you do here constantly, doesn't mean you're entitled to make assumptions about me. I've been in a loving relationship for nearly three years.

    Let us not forget; you once were married to a woman because you made the conscious willful choice to be in the closet. Would you have lectured me back then on relationships? Especially, considering now that she along with your children, from that sham of a marriage, want nothing to do with you.

    In any event, I'm happy for you. You finally found a way to keep a mate by your side....for a price. icon_razz.gif

    Oh, we're not entitled to make assumptions about you, but you can assume I was in the closet? False, I never was. And my marriage was no sham, at least not from my viewpoint. Until I realized she wanted me for my money, and little more. Which isn't much. She still does. So in that sense she does continue to want something to do with me - money.

    We had marital difficulties, becoming estranged and then separated, for the usual reasons. I didn't even know I was gay at the time, and so obviously couldn't have told her. When I did come out to myself, and did tell her, she became enraged. A not uncommon reaction of wives. And she's been looking for revenge ever since. Turning our young sons against me is one way.

    But if you wanna throw that painful aspect of my failed marriage at me in public here, fine. It merely demonstrates was a piece of filth you are. Have a nice day, dirtbag. icon_razz.gif


    So now you're saying your ex-wife knew all along you were a flute player yet married you anyway? Never mind, I don't really care. Well, Hyacinth. When you garrulously carry on and on about yourself in a self-eulogizing manner while simultaneously degrading others whom you disapprove of you set yourself up for some honest, albeit, painful scrutinizing. Of course, when you show your filthy side you pull all types of justifiable reasons from your fat ass to condone your own behavior. The typical hypocritical, two-faced, modern-progressive liberal traits we've all come to know, recognize and cherish. icon_idea.gif
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    Oct 10, 2016 7:17 AM GMT
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    So now you're saying your ex-wife knew all along you were a flute player yet married you anyway? Never mind, I don't really care. Well, Hyacinth. When you garrulously carry on and on about yourself in a self-eulogizing manner while simultaneously degrading others whom you disapprove of you set yourself up for some honest, albeit, painful scrutinizing. Of course, when you show your filthy side you pull all types of justifiable reasons from your fat ass to condone your own behavior. The typical hypocritical, two-faced, modern-progressive liberal traits we've all come to know, recognize and cherish. icon_idea.gif

    You just like to make this stuff up, don't you? Or copy what your handlers give you to post here.

    When did I say anything remotely like that? Please quote it here.

    I never touched a man sexually until after I had become estranged from my wife. I often write about (and get criticized here) for having been such a "late bloomer" at 45.

    You also claim I'm "fat". What is your evidence for that? I do say I'm overweight in my RJ profile, I'm always tough on myself. But I'm way less than the 209 pounds in yours, and at 5'11" you must be the one who actually has the fat ass. And yet is actually the one who's doing the degrading with your comments.

    But your profile is mostly blank. Most trolls are. Except to reveal you have an overweight fat ass. Maybe you need to double-check your conversion scale from metric to US height & weight, so you can come up with a more attractive set of numbers. Your handlers might be able to create a more flattering profile for you.