Same-Sex Marriage First For British Army Sergeant In Cyprus

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    Oct 07, 2016 6:52 PM GMT
    Same-Sex Marriage First For British Army Sergeant In Cyprus

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    Alastair Smith (pictured above, left), of the 2nd Battalion the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, tied the knot with civilian Aaron Weston (middle) in Dhekelia, Cyprus, the Ministry of Defence said. Sgt Smith, 36, said:
    "As well as having the great honour of being able to serve in an infantry battalion in the British Army, it's also an honour to be able to commit myself to my husband with the full backing and support of the British Army in the unique environment that Cyprus offers.

    Air Vice Marshal Mike Wigston (right), the Sovereign Base Area Administrator (SBAA), approved and conducted the ceremony last month.

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  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 07, 2016 7:36 PM GMT
    Another example of British leadership in our continuing quest for Civilization.
    Best Wishes to The Grooms!
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    Oct 08, 2016 9:18 AM GMT
    Is this news? Simply love the Princess of Wales though, Camilla will make a great Queen Consort.
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    Oct 08, 2016 3:00 PM GMT
    God_Said saidIs this news?


    Not especially, but I think it's a nice human interest story.
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    Oct 08, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
    Beautiful setting but that chaplain has huge ears. Look at the shadow it throws.
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    Oct 08, 2016 10:36 PM GMT
    theantijock saidBeautiful setting but that chaplain has huge ears. Look at the shadow it throws.


    lol

    He's not a chaplain btw. He's Commander British Forces Cyprus (a 2-star). He basically runs the Sovereign Base Areas (administratively as well as militarily). Sorry to bore you with the details, but I served out there for 4 years.

    Interestingly, British forces chaplains are governed by their own churches when it comes to conducting same-sex marriages, so Church of England and Catholic chaplains (which most of our chaplains are) still cannot marry same-sex couples. Military chapels can only be used for same-sex marriages in certain circumstances (any religious organisation that makes significant use of the chapel basically has a veto), so there is still some way to go on the equality front.
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    Oct 08, 2016 11:03 PM GMT
    Oh gawd, we want so much to legally marry. And call each other husband for real, not just a pretend term denoting love that gay guys of our generation sometimes use.

    But I still have a rapacious ex-wife my partner fears will sweep down and ruin both of us if we legally marry. And his own greedy family may use the courts to grab my money, if my partner predeceases me, claiming my estate to be his, and therefore theirs. He has no legal heirs except his closest kin, no children. They might challenge any legal documents and legal standing I have, wasting much of my money to defend my interests.

    And those same closest kin are now suing each other over my partner's oldest brother's estate, who just died this April. You think we worry they wouldn't do the same thing when my partner dies? He knows his nieces and nephew better than I do, and he sure expects it, if we get married and he predeceases me. I'd be getting served with paperwork before the funeral flowers had wilted.

    Same-sex marriage may be barely legal in the US, but the case law has yet to be established. We don't want either of our estates to be frozen in lengthy & expensive litigation by the vultures we know are in the wings.

    They can get one of us, but if we marry and co-mingle our funds, they could get it all. That's what keeps us from marrying legally.
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    Oct 09, 2016 6:25 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidOh gawd, we want so much to legally marry. And call each other husband for real, not just a pretend term denoting love that gay guys of our generation sometimes use.

    But I still have a rapacious ex-wife my partner fears will sweep down and ruin both of us if we legally marry. And his own greedy family may use the courts to grab my money, if my partner predeceases me, claiming my estate to be his, and therefore theirs. He has no legal heirs except his closest kin, no children. They might challenge any legal documents and legal standing I have, wasting much of my money to defend my interests.

    And those same closest kin are now suing each other over my partner's oldest brother's estate, who just died this April. You think we worry they wouldn't do the same thing when my partner dies? He knows his nieces and nephew better than I do, and he sure expects it, if we get married and he predeceases me. I'd be getting served with paperwork before the funeral flowers had wilted.

    Same-sex marriage may be barely legal in the US, but the case law has yet to be established. We don't want either of our estates to be frozen in lengthy & expensive litigation by the vultures we know are in the wings.

    They can get one of us, but if we marry and co-mingle our funds, they could get it all. That's what keeps us from marrying legally.

    You can't blame your ex wives being angry with you, for the way u used them. Any karma coming your way from it, is no doubt we'll earned. But what's an old Queens life, without drama. Face it, Carmine simply doesn't want to marry you. You had leed us to belive in the past, you could not wait to marry your man when it become legal.
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    Oct 09, 2016 11:03 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidBeautiful setting but that chaplain has huge ears. Look at the shadow it throws.


    lol

    He's not a chaplain btw. He's Commander British Forces Cyprus (a 2-star). He basically runs the Sovereign Base Areas (administratively as well as militarily). Sorry to bore you with the details, but I served out there for 4 years.

    Interestingly, British forces chaplains are governed by their own churches when it comes to conducting same-sex marriages, so Church of England and Catholic chaplains (which most of our chaplains are) still cannot marry same-sex couples. Military chapels can only be used for same-sex marriages in certain circumstances (any religious organisation that makes significant use of the chapel basically has a veto), so there is still some way to go on the equality front.


    I can't imagine ever finding you either boring or a bore. You strike me as a good man. I'd never have known the uniform and even if I did, apparently I'm easily distracted. I definitely get your having feelings for that place and event, having already investigated some of my past associations to see their current stand on gay rights, my temple, for instance, about which I was real proud to see they came out fairly early for marriage equality.

    That is curious the mix of authority over government facility especially on military property and particularly as we thought it a pretty big deal to stop the Boy Scouts from that.
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    Oct 12, 2016 3:51 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said

    Same-sex marriage may be barely legal in the US, but the case law has yet to be established. We don't want either of our estates to be frozen in lengthy & expensive litigation by the vultures we know are in the wings.

    They can get one of us, but if we marry and co-mingle our funds, they could get it all. That's what keeps us from marrying legally.


    This is total bullshit. There is no such thing. So when straight couples divorce who then later remarry and take another wife or husband - do either one of them have to be concerned with ex-spouses swooping to collect and take away an estate from the surviving partner?

    "Oh gawd, we want so much to legally marry."

    If you really wanted it, you'd delve into your deep pockets and hire a good attorney to draw up and stipulate in your Will that your beneficiary designation is your current legal spouse and no one else.
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    Oct 12, 2016 3:21 PM GMT
    do what you want but
    there are social and vet benefits that are better managed married
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    Oct 15, 2016 9:41 AM GMT
    I know you have lived in Cypus as a gay British soldier. That is a great news, Ex_Mil8...

    Is that an Orthodox Church in Cyprus?
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    Oct 17, 2016 6:27 PM GMT
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    Is that an Orthodox Church in Cyprus?


    Yes, it's Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church at Dhekelia (no same-sex marriages allowed in there either). Nice setting though.



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    Oct 19, 2016 9:08 AM GMT
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    Sam27 said
    Is that an Orthodox Church in Cyprus?


    Yes, it's Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church at Dhekelia (no same-sex marriages allowed in there either). Nice setting though.





    It is absolutely beautiful. :-)