Top Evangelicals Stand By Trump Despite His Vulgar Comments About Sleeping With Married Woman

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    Oct 08, 2016 4:27 AM GMT
    Again, no surprise that the right wing nuts and "moral" majority really hasn't been moral after all icon_rolleyes.gificon_twisted.gif




    Ralph Reed and Tony Perkins say they don’t care about Trump’s latest controversy
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evangelicals-trump_us_57f83051e4b068ecb5de95fb


    Many social conservatives would find remarks like these appalling and disqualifying for a political candidate. Nevertheless, some of Trump’s prominent evangelical supporters are standing by him

    “I’ve listened to the tape, my view is that people of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defend religious freedom, create jobs, and oppose the Iran nuclear deal,” Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition and a member of Trump’s religious advisory board, said in a statement. “I think a 10-year-old tape of a private conversation with a TV talk show host ranks pretty low on their hierarchy of concerns.”

    Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, another Trump supporter, told BuzzFeed he isn’t concerned with sharing “values” with the GOP nominee.

    “My personal support for Donald Trump has never been based upon shared values, it is based upon shared concerns about issues such as: justices on the Supreme Court that ignore the constitution, America’s continued vulnerability to Islamic terrorists and the systematic attack on religious liberty that we’ve seen in the last 7 1/2 years,” he said in an email.

    Representatives for Liberty University president Jerry Falwell Jr. and Susan B. Anthony List president Marjorie Dannenfelser ― two prominent social conservatives backing Trump ― didn’t immediately return requests for comment.

    Trump’s comments have drawn widespread condemnation from Democrats and Republicans alike, including Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus. Trump, meanwhile, issued a non-apology for the old conversation, while his former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski defended him by saying the country is not “choosing a Sunday school teacher.”

    But some Christian leaders have already turned on Trump. Earlier Friday, more than 100 evangelical leaders posted a letter to Change.org urging fellow Christians to vote against Trump, arguing he “has fueled white American nationalism with xenophobic appeals and religious intolerance at the expense of gospel values, democratic principles, and important international relationships.”



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    Oct 08, 2016 4:56 AM GMT
    While Hilary stands by a rapists, and attacks, bullies, bastardise the women into silance, by dehumanizing the victims.
    Trump has evolved since.
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    Oct 08, 2016 3:11 PM GMT
    God_Said saidWhile Hilary stands by a rapists, and attacks, bullies, bastardise the women into silance, by dehumanizing the victims.
    Trump has evolved since.
    Trump is a massive improvement over that pathological liar and opportunist piece of shit, Hillary rotten Clinton. But don't waste your valuable time trying to educate the OP because he is utterly clueless and hopeless.
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    Oct 08, 2016 3:13 PM GMT
    The argument that's being proffered is that (a) Trump has "evolved" (whatever that means), (b) Trump was not in the political realm when he said those repugnant comments, and (c) the Bible tells us to forgive if a sinner asks for it. Trump's more recent repugnant comments render the first two invalid; the third would only be valid if the person asking for forgiveness is (a) truly repentant (i.e., not doing it out of convenience or other irredeemable agenda), and (b) not a recidivist or a chronic sinner who commits the same sins over and over again and then asks for forgiveness.
  • Geoffreysays

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    Oct 08, 2016 7:44 PM GMT


    Now we need to hear from MELANIA, IN HER OWN WORDS.
  • dreamcock

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    Oct 08, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    This country has far more pressing problems than something that was said 11 years ago-Hillary has been proven to be a corrupt liar and above the law and now the emails that have just been leaked show she wants open borders (as if we didn't already know that now it's been proven) it's only obvious she could care less what the American people want how is she going to fix the unemployment crisis by flooding the country with more people needing work ,but her plan is to get them to become dems and give them all the govt freebies too-she's too sickly too dishonest and too crooked for the presidency she will bankrupt and destroy this once mighty nation!! Obama got the ball rolling and she'll finish it off (if her sick ass can live through it )
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    Oct 08, 2016 8:13 PM GMT
    dreamcock saidThis country has far more pressing problems than something that was said 11 years ago-Hillary has been proven to be a corrupt liar and above the law and now the emails that have just been leaked show she wants open borders (as if we didn't already know that now it's been proven) it's only obvious she could care less what the American people want how is she going to fix the unemployment crisis by flooding the country with more people needing work ,but her plan is to get them to become dems and give them all the govt freebies too-she's too sickly too dishonest and too crooked for the presidency she will bankrupt and destroy this once mighty nation!! Obama got the ball rolling and she'll finish it off (if her sick ass can live through it )


    Do you believe that Hillary was born in this country

    Or HAWAII?
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    Oct 08, 2016 8:37 PM GMT
    Geoffreysays said
    dreamcock saidThis country has far more pressing problems than something that was said 11 years ago-Hillary has been proven to be a corrupt liar and above the law and now the emails that have just been leaked show she wants open borders (as if we didn't already know that now it's been proven) it's only obvious she could care less what the American people want how is she going to fix the unemployment crisis by flooding the country with more people needing work ,but her plan is to get them to become dems and give them all the govt freebies too-she's too sickly too dishonest and too crooked for the presidency she will bankrupt and destroy this once mighty nation!! Obama got the ball rolling and she'll finish it off (if her sick ass can live through it )


    Do you believe that Hillary was born in this country

    Or HAWAII?


    As corrupt & wicked as she is I believe she was born in HELL, Satan would be proud to call her his own!
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    Oct 09, 2016 12:32 AM GMT
    Christians will sacrifice their moral code just for the sake of power grabbing, we all know SCOTUS is the big prize here icon_rolleyes.gif




    Franklin Graham Rips Trump Comments, Urges Voters to Turn Out for SCOTUS
    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/franklin-graham-trump-comments-offend-vote-scotus/2016/10/08/id/752353/

    The Rev. Franklin Graham Saturday slammed Donald Trump's "crude" remarks in the 2005 video that was leaked on Friday and called on Americans to vote on Nov. 8 because "the most important issue of this election is the Supreme Court."


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    Oct 09, 2016 2:02 AM GMT
    ELNathB saidChristians will sacrifice their moral code just for the sake of power grabbing, we all know SCOTUS is the big prize here icon_rolleyes.gif




    Franklin Graham Rips Trump Comments, Urges Voters to Turn Out for SCOTUS
    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/franklin-graham-trump-comments-offend-vote-scotus/2016/10/08/id/752353/

    The Rev. Franklin Graham Saturday slammed Donald Trump's "crude" remarks in the 2005 video that was leaked on Friday and called on Americans to vote on Nov. 8 because "the most important issue of this election is the Supreme Court."



    This.

    Systematic attack on religion?! looooooolllll.

    The oppressors think they are oppressed because they are not allowed to oppress so much.
  • daveindenver

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    Oct 09, 2016 7:50 AM GMT
    Trump supporters...just getting more desperate.
    It sucks for you guys.
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    Oct 09, 2016 8:21 AM GMT
    daveindenver said
    Trump supporters...just getting more desperate.
    It sucks for you guys.

    Someone here termed them "Kremlin trolls" and I'm beginning to believe it.

    We know there are "boiler rooms" in the countries of our geopolitical enemies that attack us, and hack us. RJ is a social site with nearly 400,000 listed members. How tempting would that be to them?

    It was also proven that a so-called "family values" group here in the US infiltrated social web sites with fake accounts and disinformation. Why would RJ be immune?

    So that when I read totally insupportable arguments defending Trump, that no rational person could accept, much less create, I have to wonder. I must conclude 1 of 2 things: either they are crazy, and devoid of rational thought, or else they are being blindly directed to post what they do here.

    But either way, irrational, nonsensical statements should never be given any credence. I hate to waste time doing so myself by commenting, but others here may be more naive about these things. And those more vulnerable to this kind of propaganda assault, I suspect, are the real targets of these guys.
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    Oct 09, 2016 8:59 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]roadbikeRob said[/cite]
    God_Said saidWhile Hilary stands by a rapists, and attacks, bullies, bastardise the women into silance, by dehumanizing the victims.
    Trump has evolved since.
    Trump is a massive improvement over that pathological liar and opportunist piece of shit, Hillary rotten Clinton. But don't waste your valuable time trying to educate the OP because he is utterly clueless and hopeless. Without any doubt your right. But his delusional pompous narcissism can be entertaining. Like te mad hatter. Or Lady Muck in Keeping Up Appearances.
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    Oct 09, 2016 11:33 AM GMT
    God_Said said[quote][cite]roadbikeRob said[/cite]
    God_Said saidWhile Hilary stands by a rapists, and attacks, bullies, bastardise the women into silance, by dehumanizing the victims.
    Trump has evolved since.
    Trump is a massive improvement over that pathological liar and opportunist piece of shit, Hillary rotten Clinton. But don't waste your valuable time trying to educate the OP because he is utterly clueless and hopeless. Without any doubt your right. But his delusional pompous narcissism can be entertaining. Like te mad hatter. Or Lady Muck in Keeping Up Appearances.


    He is a white supremacist who read Mein Kampf every night eith Hitler as his idol. Yet dumb dumbs like you fall all over yourselves voting for Hitler Lite!!!
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    Oct 09, 2016 2:24 PM GMT
    Trump's lewd comments 11 years ago are irrelevant to whether or not one should vote for him.
    When he made the comments, was it off the record or on the record?
    I'd say off the record, man-to-man, Trump-to-Bush.
    I agree with Trump. He may not have said it this time but blame the media which has no class.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 09, 2016 2:51 PM GMT
    Geoffreysays said

    Now we need to hear from MELANIA, IN HER OWN WORDS.



    Melanie statement...https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/784830734657871876

    SHOCKER! Trump has a potty mouth and is attracted to beautiful women --- Who knew?!?!?!? Bottomline: We've known Trump was no saint from the get-go. We're not electing a Pastor in Chief. This election is about something bigger than Trump. He's just the messenger. Obviously, the sanctimonious holier-than-thou crowd will come out of their glass houses to throw stones. Trump will survive.

    (Note: To be clear, I personally found Trump's words on the tape extremely disgusting and totally disappointing. They were hard to hear. I do not in any way condone that sort of talk. That said....I get it. I have enough straight guy friends to know that talk like that among guys is not exactly uncommon)
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    Oct 09, 2016 3:14 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Geoffreysays said

    Now we need to hear from MELANIA, IN HER OWN WORDS.



    Melanie statement...https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/784830734657871876

    SHOCKER! Trump has a potty mouth and is attracted to beautiful women --- Who knew?!?!?!? Bottomline: We've known Trump was no saint from the get-go. We're not electing a Pastor in Chief. This election is about something bigger than Trump. He's just the messenger. Obviously, the sanctimonious holier-than-thou crowd will come out of their glass houses to throw stones. Trump will survive.

    (Note: To be clear, I personally found Trump's words on the tape extremely disgusting and totally disappointing. They were hard to hear. I do not in any way condone that sort of talk. That said....I get it. I have enough straight guy friends to know that talk like that among guys is not exactly uncommon


    +1 go into any straight gym locker room and you hear this all day long!
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    Oct 09, 2016 4:46 PM GMT
    ELNathB said... Ralph Reed and Tony Perkins say they don’t care about Trump’s latest controversy... social conservatives would find remarks like these appalling and disqualifying for a political candidate. Nevertheless, some of Trump’s prominent evangelical supporters are standing by him...
    the wing nuts have the same Trump thing going on real time in their lives, so does everyone in their church. The wives are already discounted by 20% and love the life they live.
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    Oct 09, 2016 4:46 PM GMT
    daveindenver saidTrump supporters...just getting more desperate.
    It sucks for you guys.
    In your dreams bunkicon_exclaim.gif There are a lot more of us than you guys fully realize. You need to stop listening to and believing all the propaganda from the corporate mainstream media and come out into the real world where the large majority of Americans reside.icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 09, 2016 7:08 PM GMT
    https://youtu.be/su-Rt4QJZ08?t=10m33s

    Start at 10:33 if it doesn't do so.
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    Oct 11, 2016 4:12 AM GMT
    Finally, mainstream gets it, republican-christian sexual OCD! icon_eek.gif




    Trump tape reveals religious right hypocrisy
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/opinions/religious-right-hypocrisy-over-trump-tape-barber/index.html


    When Trump promised a wall to keep out Mexicans, many who are now "outraged" cheered him on. When he pledged to ban all Muslims from traveling to America, they celebrated his defense of "religious freedom." When he supported voter suppression laws that sought to abridge the right to vote for African-Americans, Latinos and poor people, they stood with him. When he announced that he would repeal the Affordable Care Act, a move that would devastate the lives of many poor working women and men, they endorsed him. When he said he did not support making the minimum wage a living wage, they lifted him up as what America needed. When he announced an economic plan that would take us back into recession, hurting many working families, they declared him the one for the country. When he unashamedly vowed to block gun laws that would help keep assault weapons off the street, they applauded him. And when Trump mocked women, people with disabilities, and his political opponents, the religious right stood by their man.

    This hypocritical outrage exposes the deep fears at the heart of religious support for Trump. From James Dobson to Jerry Falwell to Eric Metaxas, Trump's most ardent religious apologists have cited "religious liberty" as a key reason for backing a candidate of questionable character. Sure, he is a "baby Christian," Dobson admits. But he has embraced a definition of religious liberty peculiarly obsessed with sex.

    In this campaign season, the religious right's traditional issue of abortion has gotten little air time. (When asked about Supreme Court nominees Sunday night, Trump didn't mention Roe v. Wade.) Trump has a long record of supporting the right to abortion, so his embrace of a "pro-life" platform in an apparent effort to secure the nomination of the Republican party has been dubious, at best. Rather than dwell on issues of life, which have persisted for decades despite Republican presidents and majorities in both houses of Congress and on the Supreme Court, the religious right has focused its energies on religious freedom -- only the freedom to practice one's religion has been limited to issues of sexuality.

    Four hundred years ago, when Puritans, Quakers, Moravians and Catholics fled Europe to practice their faith in this new land, their religious concerns varied. But whatever their group's concern, they wanted religious freedom to keep the government from telling them what they had to believe or how they had to practice their belief

    Today's religious freedom advocates want just the opposite. An obsession with sex has compelled them to turn the very definition of religious freedom against itself. In the name of their religious convictions, they have supported candidates who promise to oppose civil marriage for gay people, to allow discrimination in business based on sexuality, and to prohibit transgender neighbors access to public accommodations. They embraced Trump because he was willing to endorse this violent imposition of their religious convictions on all Americans.

    These same people, however, cannot stomach the fact that Trump has talked about violently imposing his own desires on women like their wives and daughters. They are right, of course, to stand up and say Trump cannot be allowed the power of the presidency. But it is little comfort to hear them suggesting that a more "reasonable" person should stand in his place to implement policies that exert violence against poor women of color, women without access to health care, and women who happened to be born somewhere else