Wikileaks Email Release Reveals Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage

  • metta

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    Oct 10, 2016 11:46 PM GMT
    Wikileaks Email Release Reveals Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage

    http://wearechange.org/wikileaks-leak-reveals-clinton-still-secretly-gay-marriage/

    WIKILEAKS: HILLARY CLINTON IS PRIVATELY AGAINST GAYS & GAY MARRIAGE
    http://regated.com/2016/10/hillary-clinton-gay-marriage/

    Emails
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2631
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    Oct 11, 2016 1:30 AM GMT
    metta saidWikileaks Email Release Reveals Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage

    http://wearechange.org/wikileaks-leak-reveals-clinton-still-secretly-gay-marriage/


    How do you get to your thread title that supposedly "Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage" from this supposedly by her speechwriter (as if we are to believe that WikiLeaks is not just WikiHorseshit) :

    “I’m not saying double down or ever say it again. I’m just saying that she’s not going to want to say she was wrong about that, given she and her husband believe it and have repeated it many times. Better to reiterate evolution, opposition to DOMA when court considered it, and forward looking stance,”
    ?

    What do you think the reference is when it says: "given she and her husband believe it and have repeated it many times"?

    I ask because I'm pretty sure I recognize that reference but I'd like to hear your take on it first. Because if I'm right, that makes you alt-right.
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    Oct 11, 2016 1:16 PM GMT
    Gays need to pay to play if you want Clinton's support. Try taking up a collection and top the $150 Million that Clinton has already accepted from Billionaire Islamic Dictators who stone gays to death:

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  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 11, 2016 7:51 PM GMT
    Ya, right. That's why her campaign manager is gay and getting married and almost half her paid staff.
  • ANTiSociaLiNJ...

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    Oct 12, 2016 4:09 AM GMT
    Destinharbor saidYa, right. That's why her campaign manager is gay and getting married and almost half her paid staff.


    Gee, I wonder how many gay people she had working under her before 2013 which was the time when she stopped expressing her disapproval of gay marriage.
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    Oct 12, 2016 5:05 AM GMT
    Duh, it's no secret. She announced it on the Senate floor and repeatedly thereafter:



    Give her more than $150 Million like her Billionaire Islamic Benefactors and maybe she'll change her mind :

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    Better toss in some expensive jewelry to.



  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 12, 2016 5:57 AM GMT
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    Destinharbor saidYa, right. That's why her campaign manager is gay and getting married and almost half her paid staff.


    Gee, I wonder how many gay people she had working under her before 2013 which was the time when she stopped expressing her disapproval of gay marriage.

    Stupid argument. Did you pass 4th grade? Your intellectual progress seems to have stopped about then along with your emotional development. Ya, she put her future, her one shot in the hands of a gay guy just to attract the gay demographic which would put her in the White House. How dumb are you? Go back to Breitbart. Anyone outside your bubble can see through your stupidity in no time.
  • ANTiSociaLiNJ...

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    Oct 12, 2016 6:41 AM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    ANTiSociaLiNJUSTICeWarior said
    Destinharbor saidYa, right. That's why her campaign manager is gay and getting married and almost half her paid staff.


    Gee, I wonder how many gay people she had working under her before 2013 which was the time when she stopped expressing her disapproval of gay marriage.

    Stupid argument. Did you pass 4th grade? Your intellectual progress seems to have stopped about then along with your emotional development. Ya, she put her future, her one shot in the hands of a gay guy just to attract the gay demographic which would put her in the White House. How dumb are you? Go back to Breitbart. Anyone outside your bubble can see through your stupidity in no time.


    Just like a typical modern progressive liberal. Since I don't agree with your agenda I must be stupid.

    FYI: If you think Hillary isn't exploiting the fact that her campaign manager is gay and getting married to another man in order to salvage her reputation with the LGBT community then you truly are in denial.
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    Oct 12, 2016 9:08 AM GMT
    I've never voted Republican in my life, but this election has my vote. Check out the movie "13 Hours" THEN go to wikileaks.org and check out Hillary's emails (Hillary Clinton Email Archive). I've read them. They're not pretty. She should be in jail...not in charge of a large country.

    Of course Trump sucks fucking baws too, but at least he doesn't get my fellow service men and women killed. And Johnson and Bernie ain't any better. This is the worst election I've ever had to be a part of. The worst part is that our people voted these dumbasses to be our front runners.
  • WestCoastJock

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    Oct 12, 2016 3:16 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI've never voted Republican in my life, but this election has my vote. Check out the movie "13 Hours" THEN go to wikileaks.org and check out Hillary's emails (Hillary Clinton Email Archive). I've read them. They're not pretty. She should be in jail...not in charge of a large country.

    Of course Trump sucks fucking baws too, but at least he doesn't get my fellow service men and women killed. And Johnson and Bernie ain't any better. This is the worst election I've ever had to be a part of. The worst part is that our people voted these dumbasses to be our front runners.


    She is the most corrupt person that will ever be president because the majority of Americans can't think objectively.

    Here are the top 10 fears of 2016:

    Corruption of government officials (same top fear as 2015) — 60.6%
    Terrorist attacks — 41%
    Not having enough money for the future — 39.9%
    Being a victim of terror — 38.5%
    Government restrictions on firearms and ammunition — 38.5%
    People I love dying — 38.1%
    Economic or financial collapse — 37.5%
    Identity theft — 37.1%
    People I love becoming seriously ill — 35.9%
    The Affordable Health Care Act/”Obamacare” — 35.5%
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/10/12/survey-top-10-things-americans-fear-most/91934874/
  • metta

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    Oct 12, 2016 3:32 PM GMT
    "Simply put, “13 Hours” is a pretty dreadful movie and while watching it, I sat there trying to figure out what kind of audience might actually go for it. Those of the liberal persuasion will write it off because it presents elements that have been highly disputed or flat-out denied (such as the stand-down orders) as unquestioned fact. Conservatives may be upset that it doesn’t go far enough in tying Hillary Clinton to the events depicted—unless I missed it, she is never once mentioned specifically. As an action movie and as a historical document, it is a bombastic and wholly inauthentic mess that displays precious little interest in the men whose actions and sacrifices it purports to honor. There is a good and interesting movie out there to be made about the tragic events at Benghazi and the political aftermath but “13 Hours” is definitely not it."

    http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/13-hours-the-secret-soldiers-of-benghazi-2016
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    Oct 12, 2016 3:42 PM GMT
    metta saidWikileaks Email Release Reveals Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage

    http://wearechange.org/wikileaks-leak-reveals-clinton-still-secretly-gay-marriage/


    How do you get to your thread title that supposedly "Clinton Still Secretly Against Gay Marriage" from this supposedly by her speechwriter (as if we are to believe that WikiLeaks is not just WikiHorseshit) :

    “I’m not saying double down or ever say it again. I’m just saying that she’s not going to want to say she was wrong about that, given she and her husband believe it and have repeated it many times. Better to reiterate evolution, opposition to DOMA when court considered it, and forward looking stance,”
    ?

    What do you think the reference is when it says: "given she and her husband believe it and have repeated it many times"?

    I ask because I'm pretty sure I recognize that reference but I'd like to hear your take on it first. Because if I'm right, that makes you alt-right.
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    Oct 12, 2016 3:44 PM GMT
    paulflexes said...Republican...has my vote.....


    I've always suspected this of you.
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    Oct 12, 2016 5:02 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI've never voted Republican in my life, but this election has my vote. Check out the movie "13 Hours" THEN go to wikileaks.org and check out Hillary's emails (Hillary Clinton Email Archive). I've read them. They're not pretty. She should be in jail...not in charge of a large country.

    Of course Trump sucks fucking baws too, but at least he doesn't get my fellow service men and women killed. And Johnson and Bernie ain't any better. This is the worst election I've ever had to be a part of. The worst part is that our people voted these dumbasses to be our front runners.


    She is the most corrupt person that will ever be president because the majority of Americans can't think objectively.

    Here are the top 10 fears of 2016:

    Corruption of government officials (same top fear as 2015) — 60.6%
    Terrorist attacks — 41%
    Not having enough money for the future — 39.9%
    Being a victim of terror — 38.5%
    Government restrictions on firearms and ammunition — 38.5%
    People I love dying — 38.1%
    Economic or financial collapse — 37.5%
    Identity theft — 37.1%
    People I love becoming seriously ill — 35.9%
    The Affordable Health Care Act/”Obamacare” — 35.5%
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/10/12/survey-top-10-things-americans-fear-most/91934874/
    I was going to fact check that, but regardless of statistics, those are also my top 10 fears...in order of my fear level.
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    Oct 12, 2016 7:56 PM GMT
    Speaking of fact checking...

    CLAIM: An e-mail chain revealed by WikiLeaks documents that Hillary Clinton privately maintains an anti-marriage equality stance while publicly stating otherwise.

    red.gif FALSE

    While it's true Hillary Clinton didn't publicly reverse her position on same-sex marriage until 2013, the "belief" questioned above was her assertion that DOMA was necessary to prevent a more restrictive constitutional amendment limiting same-sex marriage, not a belief in opposition to marriage equality. No part of the e-mail chain referenced here supports the notion that Hillary Clinton continued to privately oppose same-sex marriage despite her public-facing support for it.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-secretly-opposes-equality/
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    Oct 12, 2016 9:12 PM GMT
    Yep, that'd be what I thought I recognized. Mil8 gets the dollar.

    The Alt-R(eality) award goes to Alt-Metta.

    Seriously Metta, I don't say this meanly. I don't know if you are grieving but there's real noticeable change between what used to be reasonable postings in your past here and some of your current nonsense. I don't know if you've been snorting too much of the green or if it's stress. If it is just your political playing (which counters how we knew you in the past by how you previously presented yourself as being).

    If you've got some paranoia going as well, you don't have to take my word on it. Just look at this evidence:

    WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOUTHBEACH ATTACKED YOU?

    Again, I don't say this meanly, Metta: seek help.
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    Oct 18, 2016 12:27 AM GMT
    theantijock saidYep, that'd be what I thought I recognized. Mil8 gets the dollar.

    The Alt-R(eality) award goes to Alt-Metta.

    Seriously Metta, I don't say this meanly. I don't know if you are grieving but there's real noticeable change between what used to be reasonable postings in your past here and some of your current nonsense. I don't know if you've been snorting too much of the green or if it's stress. If it is just your political playing (which counters how we knew you in the past by how you previously presented yourself as being).

    If you've got some paranoia going as well, you don't have to take my word on it. Just look at this evidence:

    WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOUTHBEACH ATTACKED YOU?

    Again, I don't say this meanly, Metta: seek help.


    Yeah, MEtta's been on a Anti-Hillary campaign for awhile. he's been spouting off britbart BS for awhile now.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 22, 2016 4:15 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidSpeaking of fact checking...

    CLAIM: An e-mail chain revealed by WikiLeaks documents that Hillary Clinton privately maintains an anti-marriage equality stance while publicly stating otherwise.

    red.gif FALSE

    While it's true Hillary Clinton didn't publicly reverse her position on same-sex marriage until 2013, the "belief" questioned above was her assertion that DOMA was necessary to prevent a more restrictive constitutional amendment limiting same-sex marriage, not a belief in opposition to marriage equality. No part of the e-mail chain referenced here supports the notion that Hillary Clinton continued to privately oppose same-sex marriage despite her public-facing support for it.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-secretly-opposes-equality/
    No it is not false mr. Hillary lover. But you are addicted to that lying liberal Snopes.com so it doesn't surprise me that you think that Hillary is all for gay marriage when in truth she really is still opposed but has changed her position just to pander to a significant number of voters.
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    Oct 22, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
    hillary hates gays and the ones voting for her are self hating gays
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 22, 2016 5:40 PM GMT
    Ekho saidhillary hates gays and the ones voting for her are self hating gays
    Hillary is only seeking support from gays just to further her own self aggrandizement. She hasn't evolved one iota about gay equality or about any of the issues facing other minority groups in the USA. She is just using all her ardent supporters as useful tools to gain power and dominance. Once she gets elected, all those wonderful campaign promises and speeches will be thrown out the window and it will be business as usual in Washington because the crooked, entrenched, political establishment will continue their dictatorship of American government and politics.
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    Oct 22, 2016 8:49 PM GMT
    Despite his many faults, Donald Trump was publicly in favor of gay marriage eight years before Hillary Clinton made her pivot in 2013. I realize it was easier for him to express those views in 2005 because he wasn't a politician worried about votes, but on the other hand, that also shows it's what he really believed, again because he wasn't a politician pandering for votes. By contrast, if Clinton genuinely cared about gay rights, such as marriage equality and the repeal of DADT, why didn't she champion these issues and push legislation on them during her eight years in the Senate? It would have helped to have the world's most influential woman on our side, and although it might not have been easy, it's what a leader would have done. Instead, it feels as if she waited on the sidelines until after we reached those milestones, then she rushed up and announced, "Oh yeah, that's what I would have done."

    Even in this election, the only time I heard either candidate bring up gay issues was when Trump repeatedly condemned anti-gay violence in Orlando and the Middle East, which is all the more impressive because casting terrorism as an anti-gay issue must lose him more voters than it gains. He's far from perfect, but he's the most socially liberal Republican nominee in my lifetime, and between him and Clinton, I think he's the only one who genuinely cares about gay rights.
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    Oct 22, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidStupid argument. Did you pass 4th grade? Your intellectual progress seems to have stopped about then along with your emotional development. Ya, she put her future, her one shot in the hands of a gay guy just to attract the gay demographic which would put her in the White House. How dumb are you? Go back to Breitbart. Anyone outside your bubble can see through your stupidity in no time.


    I think you're the one acting like a child, intellectually and emotionally. There were no insults coming from his side when he quoted you. And he is right, it doesn't take a full scale investigation to compile and review a very contradictory history of Hillary's stances on gay marriage over the years. She assumed the position with those who threw more cash at her. Sometimes it was the anti-gay establishment, sometimes the gay lobby.

    If you people want somebody as president, you need somebody consistent. And no, not consistent in bad decision making or criminal activity.