Trump Is Going Kamikaze

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    Oct 12, 2016 2:28 PM GMT
    Recognizing that he's likely to lose in November, Trump has become even more unhinged, wreaking havoc wherever he goes. This act of desperation reminds me of the Kamikaze military campaign during World War II. Of course history informs us that ultimately the Japanese Imperial Army was defeated by the Allied Forces.

    Kamikaze were suicide attacks by military aviators from the Empire of Japan against Allied naval vessels in the closing stages of the Pacific campaign of World War II, designed to destroy warships more effectively than was possible with conventional attacks. During World War II, about 3,860 kamikaze pilots died, and about 19% of kamikaze attacks managed to hit a ship.These attacks, which began in October 1944, followed several critical military defeats for the Japanese. They had long since lost aerial dominance due to outdated aircraft and the loss of experienced pilots. On a macroeconomic scale, Japan suffered from a diminishing capacity for war, and a rapidly declining industrial capacity relative to the Allies. Despite these problems, the Japanese government expressed its reluctance to surrender. However, it soon became apparent that Japan was losing pilots faster than it could train their replacements. In combination, these factors led to the use of kamikaze tactics as Allied forces advanced towards the Japanese home islands. All told, more than 1,321 Japanese aircraft crash-dived their planes into Allied warships during the war in desperate efforts to reverse the growing Allied advantage in the Pacific. While approximately 3,000 Americans and British died because of these attacks, the damage done did not prevent the Allied capture of the Philippines, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. See, e.g., http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-kamikaze-attack-of-the-war-begins.

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    Oct 12, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
    Or Hitler in the bunker, moving imaginary armies around the board and planning the complete destruction of everything.
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    Oct 12, 2016 3:03 PM GMT
    Trump supporters believe the 2016 elections are hacked, and are staying home

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    Oct 12, 2016 3:17 PM GMT
    You gotta remember 2 important things about Trump, to understand him today:

    1) He's an insane megalomaniac.
    2) He's been spoiled with having bullied his way through company meetings and other situations, where he always got his way. His curt signature phrase "You're fired!" from his "Apprentice" TV reality show is very telling.

    His TV show, and his entire history, reveal how he thinks and acts.

    But now he's in a new reality show, called a Presidential Race. And he's not very good at it, doesn't know how to manipulate it. He can't "fire" several hundred million people, nor certain media persons, although he's tried doing the latter desperately. Like barring them from his presence.

    But his narrow little vision of how the world operates according to Trump isn't how a major modern democracy works (that almost sounds like a line from Gilbert & Sullivan). And that lack of ability for Trump to be more than he's always been, a selfish, unhinged real estate tycoon, is killing his political campaign.

    Just as I always predicted. Sorry to crow (but I am shamelessly crowing icon_redface.gif ), this is exactly what I foresaw would happen with him. Come on guys, I think l I deserve at least a little credit for a correct prediction. "Trump will self-destruct, Hillary will triumph". I said that back when the Republican primaries were just beginning.
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    Oct 12, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
    The problem with your analogy is that though reprehensible to our point of view as are suicide bombers, in the context of their culture the kamikazes were honorable people who while misdirected were giving up their life for their country.

    The kamikaze today would be Republicans denouncing Trump. The country-before-party people who would be willing to sacrifice their party for their country. That's where there's honor.

    There is no honor in what Trump is doing, it is not kamikaze, because he's no intention of sacrificing for his cause.

    He fully intends to continue his survival and to profit yugely from the shit he stirs.

    He's a rioter and a looter, not a kamikaze.
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    Oct 12, 2016 8:54 PM GMT
    theantijock saidThe problem with your analogy is that though reprehensible to our point of view as are suicide bombers, in the context of their culture the kamikazes were honorable people who while misdirected were giving up their life for their country.

    The kamikaze today would be Republicans denouncing Trump. The country-before-party people who would be willing to sacrifice their party for their country. That's where there's honor.

    There is no honor in what Trump is doing, it is not kamikaze, because he's no intention of sacrificing for his cause.

    He fully intends to continue his survival and to profit yugely from the shit he stirs.

    He's a rioter and a looter, not a kamikaze.


    Yes and no. Although the kamikaze campaign was grounded in the notion of loyalty and honor (which clearly neither Trump nor his reporters have), it was also premised on the principle that death was preferable to defeat. In a very real sense, it was an act of desperation. That's where I draw the analogy.
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    Oct 12, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidThe problem with your analogy is that though reprehensible to our point of view as are suicide bombers, in the context of their culture the kamikazes were honorable people who while misdirected were giving up their life for their country.

    The kamikaze today would be Republicans denouncing Trump. The country-before-party people who would be willing to sacrifice their party for their country. That's where there's honor.

    There is no honor in what Trump is doing, it is not kamikaze, because he's no intention of sacrificing for his cause.

    He fully intends to continue his survival and to profit yugely from the shit he stirs.

    He's a rioter and a looter, not a kamikaze.


    Yes and no. Although the kamikaze campaign was grounded in the notion of loyalty and honor (which clearly neither Trump nor his reporters have), it was also premised on the principle that death was preferable to defeat. In a very real sense, it was an act of desperation. That's where I draw the analogy.


    I supposed you could make an argument for kamikaze-esque in technique if you could establish that he's acting out of desperation but I don't make that presumption. Rather, this seems to me quite in line with the "normal" tenor of his campaign. If so, then neither component corresponds: not honor, nor desperation.

    Now you could argue--successfully haha--that his entire campaign has been one of desperation but then how to break out what is being presented as a new low? In trying to wrap you mind around that, even just for entertainment, his madness will engulf you.

    Just as a suicide bombing doesn't seem honorable to us, from Trump's point of view, his actions now are not out of desperation. For him this is just par for the golf course. His entire act is stirring shit. That's what he does. And then when everyone has left the room because they can no longer stand the stench, he sweeps up to pocket what change in finds on the floor. He's a lowlife scrounger, unfit for president, unfit for kamikaze duty.

    I do not mean in any sense to honor kamikazes who destroyed so many American lives, but this analogy dishonors even from the then enemy's point of view what bravery and selflessness there was to be found in that.
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    Oct 13, 2016 12:17 AM GMT
    ^^^Word of advice from someone who knows the Japanese culture personally: Be very careful when making that argument to Nisei veterans and Nikkei folks in the US---they're not necessarily enamored with the kamikazes. I understand from a purely intellectual standpoint where you're coming from, but many people in the Japanese diaspora may not share the same understanding because of deeply personal and other reasons.
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    Oct 13, 2016 12:26 AM GMT
    Well, I didn't know for a fact but I'd've imagine so, thus my careful phrasing "even from the then enemy's point of view".
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    Oct 13, 2016 12:27 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidYou gotta remember 2 important things about Trump, to understand him today:

    1) He's an insane megalomaniac.
    2) He's been spoiled with having bullied his way through company meetings and other situations, where he always got his way. His curt signature phrase "You're fired!" from his "Apprentice" TV reality show is very telling.
    Yep, but he seems to be doing this on purpose just to expand his brand and gain more clients all over the world. That means he really doesn't want to win; he just wants to get richer.
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    Oct 13, 2016 4:05 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    You gotta remember 2 important things about Trump, to understand him today:

    1) He's an insane megalomaniac.
    2) He's been spoiled with having bullied his way through company meetings and other situations, where he always got his way. His curt signature phrase "You're fired!" from his "Apprentice" TV reality show is very telling.

    Yep, but he seems to be doing this on purpose just to expand his brand and gain more clients all over the world. That means he really doesn't want to win; he just wants to get richer.

    Paul, you're as astute as ever. Getting richer is all Trump knows.

    But he's delusional about his own success. He fantasizes that it's greater than it is, and that his terrible failures don't exist. Plus he believes, which is most dangerous to us, that his imaginary genius makes him infallible in all things.

    He knows more than our top US Generals & Admirals. He's certainly smarter than mere US citizens. In fact, there's nobody better than he is.

    The reality is that Trump's a casebook example of someone suffering from megalomania disorder. In the future medical books ought to be revised to refer to "Trump's Disease" in describing this condition.

    In fact, that's a good idea for a recommendation to the American Psychiatric Association. Not that I myself have any credentials or standing with that organization, but they might nevertheless choose to review the issue on its merits.
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    Oct 13, 2016 4:16 AM GMT
    I have no problem with Kamikaze Trump, in fact, this is why he's the nominee.