Motivation and eating

  • transient

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    Nov 01, 2016 7:20 PM GMT
    I find it extremely hard to eat enough calories to increase muscle mass.

    I have no problem hitting weights heavily and mixing up my routine to always have DOMS the day after working out(sometimes for a couple of days) but I don't really see this transform into muscle mass.

    What's going on?

    Why do I work out two, three times a week till I'm sore for a few days afterwards, mixing up the routine but don't see the results as muscle mass.

    It's like I'm emaciating myself by using all my energy just to exist.

    What's wrong?
  • transient

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    Nov 11, 2016 6:07 PM GMT
    Seriously, not a single reply?

    Maybe I should de starting pseudoracist threads about sexual preferences or maybe about Trump.

    This is RealJock? Bodybuilding forum?

  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 11, 2016 10:28 PM GMT
    You're probably not getting enough protein. Drink two protein shakes of at least 35 grams of whey protein and no more than 150 calories per day. In addition to fresh protein and a healthy diet. Also,you say you are working out hard but do you give each muscle group sufficient focus to really push it to grow. 2-3 times/week isn't a lot of time in the gym. I do an entire day/week each for arms, chest, shoulders, back and legs. Most guys wanting to increase size will divide up their routine to devote an entire day to each group. You can reduce the number by mixing back and biceps and chest and tri to reduce it to 4 days/week. I see a lot of guys in the gym moving about the equipment without any real plan and they won't stay wth it because they won't get the results. But if your routine is solid, it's probably just you need more protein. And some fats to produce testosterone. Carbs are for energy.
  • Noeton

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    Nov 13, 2016 3:11 AM GMT
    transient saidSeriously, not a single reply?

    Maybe I should de starting pseudoracist threads about sexual preferences or maybe about Trump.

    This is RealJock? Bodybuilding forum?



    OK, OK, please no more of those kinds of threads!! Haha

    Lots of meat, eggs, dairy, fish, and poultry. GOMAD -- or at least a lot of whole milk a day. https://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/ Creatine. Good luck.
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    Nov 28, 2016 4:08 PM GMT
    transient saidI find it extremely hard to eat enough calories to increase muscle mass.

    I have no problem hitting weights heavily and mixing up my routine to always have DOMS the day after working out(sometimes for a couple of days) but I don't really see this transform into muscle mass.

    What's going on?

    Why do I work out two, three times a week till I'm sore for a few days afterwards, mixing up the routine but don't see the results as muscle mass.

    It's like I'm emaciating myself by using all my energy just to exist.

    What's wrong?


    You don't provide a lot of information so I'm guessing here. My first guess is that you are not getting enough calories. Your profile says that your work is physically demanding and the you also exercises. The standard 2000 calories is just not enough. Try increasing your intake by 200-500 calories a month over the next 6-9 months. Eating 6-8 meals a day is a good thing to do also. Good luck and don't give up.
  • transient

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    Nov 29, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
    Sorry for the delay, I appreciate the replies guys and I'm going to answer them one by one.

    Destinharbor saidYou're probably not getting enough protein. Drink two protein shakes of at least 35 grams of whey protein and no more than 150 calories per day. In addition to fresh protein and a healthy diet. Also,you say you are working out hard but do you give each muscle group sufficient focus to really push it to grow. 2-3 times/week isn't a lot of time in the gym. I do an entire day/week each for arms, chest, shoulders, back and legs. Most guys wanting to increase size will divide up their routine to devote an entire day to each group. You can reduce the number by mixing back and biceps and chest and tri to reduce it to 4 days/week. I see a lot of guys in the gym moving about the equipment without any real plan and they won't stay wth it because they won't get the results. But if your routine is solid, it's probably just you need more protein. And some fats to produce testosterone. Carbs are for energy.


    Thanks for your very thorough reply Destinharbour.

    I do appreciate how important protein is to muscle gain. I am however not in a position to buy protein powders.

    I don't doubt that they work, it's a complex issue personal to me.

    I live a self providing (aiming for self sufficiency) life and have very little money - being unable to keep a car running due to finances, I can't afford protein powders.

    I am also very strict on my diet - little or no processed food, recently pescitarian convert from vegetarian - I just can't allow a large part of my diet to be highly refined and processed dairy byproducts.

    This said,your original response is correct - increase protein intake.

    I also appreciate the idea of focusing on only one body area per day and working out much more frequently. This is what I was doing untill recently and after not making much gains.

    After some research I have been working g out heavily doing combination lifts to push more than one muscle group....compound movements.

    I have been working for the last month or two doing sets using weights I max out on at 12 reps but continuing untill failure repeatedly untill 50 reps per exercise.

    This makes things super swift and mega DOMS.

    I'm going for minimum effort for maximum return......not because I'm lazy but because I simply don't have enough energy to work out 7 days a week wasting energy I'm struggling to use to create muscle.

    I hope this helps explain myself a little better?

    I also have no access to a gym - I have free weights, bodyweight equipment and gymnastic rings.

    I probably walk between 2 and 10 miles a day with work,life and goats so I don't do cardio.

  • transient

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    Nov 29, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
    Noeton said
    transient said




    OK, OK, please no more of those kinds of threads!! Haha

    Lots of meat, eggs, dairy, fish, and poultry. GOMAD -- or at least a lot of whole milk a day. https://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/ Creatine. Good luck.


    I have recently started eating fish to supplement my vegetarian diet and I feel good eating it once a week or so.

    When my goats are in full milk production (about half the year and not at the moment), I drink a few litres if fresh raw whey everyday - the byproduct of me making cheese. I also eat a lot of fresh cheese during this time too.

    At the moment there's not much milk or cheese!
  • transient

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    Nov 29, 2016 4:41 PM GMT
    jimib said
    transient said.

    What's wrong?


    You don't provide a lot of information so I'm guessing here. My first guess is that you are not getting enough calories. Your profile says that your work is physically demanding and the you also exercises. The standard 2000 calories is just not enough. Try increasing your intake by 200-500 calories a month over the next 6-9 months. Eating 6-8 meals a day is a good thing to do also. Good luck and don't give up.


    Jimib,
    Thanks for your reply too.

    It's not easy for me to count calories as most of my food is made from raw ingredients with no calorific value.

    I don't know how I could grow enough food, or afford to buy enough to eat 6 or 8 meals per day.

    There would be permanent digestion and I would never get any work done being soporific all the time.
  • transient

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    Nov 29, 2016 4:43 PM GMT
    I'm going to knock myself out with a planned squats, shoulder press and bentover rows workout.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 04, 2016 3:37 AM GMT
    I have pretty much given up on a bodybuilding routine because my physique is too damn stubborn to respond to a workout routine. I detest the ridiculously strict diets and the unrealistic concept of five or six small meals a day. To hell with the gym, go for a bike ride or run your ass off.
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    Dec 04, 2016 3:44 AM GMT
    ^
    5 or 6 is too much for you? I have 9.

    Having more meals is good for low appetite folks because it keeps the portions small.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 04, 2016 3:55 AM GMT
    bachian said^
    5 or 6 is too much for you? I have 9.

    Having more meals is good for low appetite folks because it keeps the portions small.
    Nine meals a day, I am sure that your employer loves you for thaticon_razz.gificon_exclaim.gif
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    Dec 04, 2016 9:32 PM GMT
    ^
    Bananas, cashew nuts, whey shakes, smoothies prepared at home (stored at the company's fridge): none of that requires me to stop what I'm doing to eat.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 08, 2016 2:28 PM GMT
    bachian said^
    Bananas, cashew nuts, whey shakes, smoothies prepared at home (stored at the company's fridge): none of that requires me to stop what I'm doing to eat.
    I will definitely pass on the bananas and cashew nutsicon_neutral.gif