Oranges, Polyamine Putrescine, Aging, Harms of Polyamine Putrescine Deficiency or Too Much of It

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    Dec 18, 2016 9:55 PM GMT
    Oranges, Polyamine Putrescine, Aging, Harms of Polyamine Putrescine Deficiency or Too Much of It

    In 2006, I knew that oranges should be used sparingly: They are high in the polyamine putrescine, which can raise polyamine levels.

    10 years later, I'm older.

    The Journal of Biochem writes that polyamines decrease with age.
    http://jb.oxfordjournals.org/content/139/1/81.abstract

    This article
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1271/bbb.61.1582
    says we do not want deficiency or overproduction of polyamines.

    So, can I avoid oranges less? Would 1 orange a week be okay?
    When I was in my twenties, I used to drink 12 ounces of orange juice 4 mornings per week. What is the harm of too many polyamines in an adult, and too much polyamine putrescine, specifically?

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    Dec 19, 2016 2:54 AM GMT
    The "harm" is in you doing 7500 POSTS!
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    Eddy12free saidThe "harm" is in you doing 7500 POSTS!


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    Dec 20, 2016 4:19 PM GMT
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    Orange
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Immunotoxin (reactive polysaccharide)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •
    Orange Juice
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-
    metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (anti-metabolite)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •

    Apple
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Rutin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (High Gallic acid concentration)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Immunotoxin (reactive polysaccharide)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Coumarin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •
    Apple Juice
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Rutin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (High Gallic acid concentration)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-
    metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (anti-metabolite)
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    Dec 20, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
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    Polyamines seem to be involved the cell division process. Needs are different between children, adolescents and adults.

    One form of cell division you would not want to fuel is cancer, one argument for not getting 'too much'.

    I've oversimplified my understanding and the subject does not seem to be understood as well as it could be by anyone.


    It is a metabolic inhibitor for blood type O.
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    Polyamines seem to be involved the cell division process. Needs are different between children, adolescents and adults.

    One form of cell division you would not want to fuel is cancer, one argument for not getting 'too much'.

    I've oversimplified my understanding and the subject does not seem to be understood as well as it could be by anyone.


    Oranges are a metabolic inhibitor for type O.

    Stephenoabc

    Thank you. Who wants their metabolism inhibited?
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    Dec 20, 2016 4:51 PM GMT
    Orange
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Immunotoxin (reactive polysaccharide)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •
    Orange Juice
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-
    metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (anti-metabolite)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •

    Apple
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Rutin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (High Gallic acid concentration)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Immunotoxin (reactive polysaccharide)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Coumarin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •
    Apple Juice
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Rutin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (High Gallic acid concentration)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-
    metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (anti-metabolite)

    Alright, let's think about this or set up our ducks to think about this.
    One likely does not want the items below in one's oranges, apples, apple juice, or any of one's food intake.


    GT1 Epigenotoxin (anti-metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Coumarin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Hemmaglutinating Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (High Gallic acid concentration)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Rutin Phenolics)

    Blood Group O Non secretor Immunotoxin (reactive polysaccharide)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-metabolite)
    Physician Restricted Component (Hemmaglutinating Lectin) •

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    Dec 22, 2016 8:49 PM GMT
    GT1 means Genotype 1
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    Dec 22, 2016 9:36 PM GMT
    The hard way: Googling each term, for example Coumarin Phenolics:

    Google Result: http://www.wholisticresearch.com/info/artshow.php3?artid=432

    Patients who have symptoms that are due to a phenolic compound such as those listed here, or which have a component that is caused by a phenolic, are not allergic to them but are intolerant or sensitive. They are able to tolerate a limited amount of the phenolic, but if the intake exceeds this then symptoms appear. It appears that the tolerance level reduces the more symptoms occur, but that if the phenolic is avoided the tolerance increases. The best practical policy is to be conscious not to eat too many foods that contain the offending phenolic during any 48-hour period.


    Phenolic Intolerances can be the explanation for symptoms that appear to have no trigger and which appear to recur randomly. This is particularly true for Nicotine and Tyramine phenolics, but can apply to all of them. The phenolics listed here are the most common in their impact on humans.


    Acetyl - and Methyl -salicylic acid are contained in:

    blackberry, blueberry, brussel sprouts, plum, strawberry

    Methyl-salicylic acid and Acetyl-salicylic acid sensitivity is a frequent cause of hyperactivity and, in children, behavioural disorders.



    CHOLINE is contained in:

    Milk (cows), Milk (goats), Oyster, Salmon, Shrimp



    COUMARIN is contained in:

    apple, banana, barley, beef, beer, beet, beet-sugar, celery, cheese, cottage cheese, chicken, cocoa, chocolate, corn, egg, lemon, lettuce, lime, cow’s and goat’s milk, mutton, oats, pea, peanut, peppercorn, sweet potato, rice, tomato, tuna, turkey, wheat, yeast

    Coumarin is one of the most common to cause problems and is, unfortunately, one of the most widespread phenolics. It is often associated with respiratory conditions.
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    Dec 22, 2016 9:43 PM GMT
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