When one knows ones "True" purpose...

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    Feb 15, 2009 11:40 PM GMT
    Now i've had 3 different dreams, each one repeatedly. And they all end up at least to me revealing what I believe my True purpose is going to be while i'm on this World.
    Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?

    Now this becomes a very complicated matter for me mostly because i'm not in any way shape or form religious. And these dreams tend to in some way or form make it where I transcend my mortal limitations.
    It really scares me to death cause i'm a Big believer in dreams do come true.
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    Feb 16, 2009 1:31 AM GMT
    Paradigm saidNow i've had 3 different dreams, each one repeatedly. And they all end up at least to me revealing what I believe my True purpose is going to be while i'm on this World.
    Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?

    Now this becomes a very complicated matter for me mostly because i'm not in any way shape or form religious. And these dreams tend to in some way or form make it where I transcend my mortal limitations.
    It really scares me to death cause i'm a Big believer in dreams do come true.



    Dreams are very rarely exact and specifically directed at any one single topic. Generally they are a broad-brush and in code, telling you something that you already unconsiously know. If your dreams are telling you to follow some zen-like path, maybe you need to consider a job change ito some profession that requires you to be more of an advocate for those not able to advocate for themselves, or some sort of sensitive, helping. healing type of profession. You don't need to become a martyr or a "priest" to carry out this type of function. You apparently are not satisfied with your current situation in life and are being told to aim higher. Go for it and give it a try! At 23 you are stil a work in process, enjoy yourself and lay off of the late night snacks before bed! LOL!
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    Feb 16, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    Interesting post.

    It's an amazing feeling, yet, an equally terrifying feeling to feel that you truly KNOW your purpose in this life.

    I, too, can say that i feel that I have reached this understanding. So i can't tell you what you are feeling and why, but i can only speak from my own experience, which i guess you can take as an example, something to ponder.

    I am entirely convinced that I know my purpose for being on this small little planet, in whatever lifespan I am given to walk it. However, i feel as if it is no small purpose, and so, i absolutely agree with you when you say, "Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?" I would say, absolutely, YES, this is possible. I am continuously overwhelmed with this feeling.

    I feel as if a have an enormous burden on my shoulders, and that I am not worthy or able to undertake this task for my life. With that, no matter how much i seem to accomplish within this area in which i feel i am destined to be, i always am overcome with feeling like i am not doing enough, not going fast enough, that i want to do too much, too soon, and i feel perpetually unaccomplished. sometimes i just ask myself, "why me, damnit?"

    sometimes, i wish i had no drive, passion or purpose, so that i could sit back and relax, take things as they come. but those feelings are fleeting, because reality sets in and i realize that just isnt me.

    I am also a believer in dreams coming true, it has happened for me in many respects already. but the thing about dreams coming true, is that no matter how well you plan things out and push to achieve a goal, actualize a dream... if it happens, it will NEVER happen in the way you imagined. but.... this is the BEST part. if life were entirely planned and followed accordingly, it would be boring and pointless... anytime you think you have everything figured out, life has a funny way of proving otherwise. but this is why you must enjoy these small or sometimes large changes as they come... its not about fighting change, but grabbing it by the reigns and steering it in the right direction.

    so for you, congratulations in discovering your purpose... don't let it overwhelm you or become a daunting cloud over head, but rise up with it, embrace it, and enjoy the ride.

    ultimately, we don't know anything until its all over. so, do what you feel is best, and i guess you'll know if you were right when you're dead. haha.
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    Feb 16, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
    Have you ever had a dream while awake? I have!!!

    There was a time in my life I knew thing that were going to come to pass in my life, and they all did. I now live my life from day today, at this point, as I know nothing that is to come.

    After I left the City in the 80s and moved to the bush to work as a lumber Jake. After a few years I become very lonely. When one night shift. I would wish upon a star, asking when I was going to meet my sole mate. Why I had not meet him. Where was he. Was he some-were I could not get to, or he to me.

    Via dreams, even while awake. I was to come to know a Russian was going to come in to my life. The next year the wall come down, and communism was dead in Russia.

    latter I also knew an American was going to come into my life. Ha two men. How in the hell is that going to pan out? Gosh two men? I'm such I one man guy. Well as soon as I moved to the City, or just before in fact. I met the American I've been with for almost 20 years. 10 years latter I met the Russia who was In Australia, and my American Husband was home in America. finalising everthing, to move to Oz permanently.

    So I have these two men in my life, and all that I knew, has come to pass.

    But we must take care with such topics. There are those here that such topics bring out their insecurities, and they feel a strong need to abuse, in an attempt to dismiss the truth, and put up cuckoo clocks, so they feel they don't have to deal with it.
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    Feb 16, 2009 4:52 AM GMT
    Paradigm saidNow i've had 3 different dreams, each one repeatedly. And they all end up at least to me revealing what I believe my True purpose is going to be while i'm on this World.
    Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?

    Now this becomes a very complicated matter for me mostly because i'm not in any way shape or form religious. And these dreams tend to in some way or form make it where I transcend my mortal limitations.
    It really scares me to death cause i'm a Big believer in dreams do come true.


    There is a documentary called Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth. You may find your answer there.
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    Feb 16, 2009 5:07 AM GMT
    Paradigm saidIs it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for.


    It would likely be a misstep to take a dream literally.

    However, it is true that the apprehension of "destiny" is usually scary and intimidating. That is, from a metaphorical perspective, what most paintings of the Annunciation are about, according to some thinkers. Mary receives word of her own destiny -- a virgin birth, becoming the mother of Christ -- and she steps back in horror in most paintings of the event.

    I've seen this be the case with many clients -- the stepping back, not the virgin birth.

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    Feb 16, 2009 5:29 PM GMT
    Well i've actually had several dreams previously that ended up happening. Now those dreams though they seemed trivial I suppose and meaningless came to have a bigger impact than I initially believed they would.
    Like I dreamed of having to face the fact that i'm gay and tell my parents, and then I was alone in the dream. It came to pass when I turned 13, I told my folks and even though I wasn't officially disowned then the emotional connection most people have with their family was servered. Though it would be a decade later that my parents and siblings would later disown me from their family.
    I also dreamed of meeting a friend who I would eventually meet online, end up moving in with and the similarities between us would bloom a relationship, but it would end in disaster before it really got anywhere. It came to pass.
    But in the dreams that had me write this go beyond any dread i've ever felt. I've been shot in the chest before, during the time I spent in Iraq thankfully I had my kevlar body armor on even though it barely pierced it. Dying i'm not too afraid of, partly cause sometimes I feel i'm already a walking zombie.
    Now in each of these 3 dreams i'm sort of thrust into a leadership position and in charge of many lives. Also the number 23 keeps repeating in each of these dreams and that i'll be in the service of justice. At first I feared it would happen on my 23rd birthday, well it hasn't so that's some burden off my shoulders. But then i'm coming to think it'll happen in the year 2023.

    So you know Sporty_g my current profession is being a Nutritionist at a Children's Hospital. Now it's not especially considered a Healing career but being able to help people lose weight, or helping them with a diet better suited to a health issue that they just started having does make me feel somewhat proud of what i'm doing for others. But unfortunately being around too many people makes me nervous to the point where sometimes I have a panic attack.

    You're right MeOhMy, I certainly feel like I won't be able to come into this role i'm per se thrust upon and will in the end miserably. And it does seem like everything I do do isn't good enough at least not for me to do this odd role.

    Yes Pattison I have had dreams while awake and even some of those have come true for me exactly the way it was in my dream.

    Interesting growingbig, so far what I can find on that seems quiet unique i'll have to look harder for clips of it that I can watch.

    I'd hate to assume what you just said ObsceneWish... But you're saying it's perfectly natural to be afraid of dreams that have a possibility to come true, right? But then why do you think we have dreams that would point in this direction?

    Normally I would just forget the dreams but these seem more vivid with names of people and places that I don't even know "yet" with a few people i've met that I think well come into play when this all happens.
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    Feb 16, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
    Paradigm saidInteresting growingbig, so far what I can find on that seems quiet unique i'll have to look harder for clips of it that I can watch.


    If you have a Netflix account you can rent it. The documentary with Bil Moyer is about 6 hours long.
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    Feb 16, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
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    Paradigm saidInteresting growingbig, so far what I can find on that seems quiet unique i'll have to look harder for clips of it that I can watch.


    If you have a Netflix account you can rent it. The documentary with Bil Moyer is about 6 hours long.

    Sadly I don't have an account with Netflix icon_cry.gif
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    Feb 16, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
    Above I talked about my man in Russia coming into my life. The night is tattooed in my memory. I was at home, it was a Wednesday Night, a week night. I just decided to go out to a gay bar, a leather one for that matter, the Laird. Gees going out on a working week night. Not some-thing I really ever did.

    Well I was to meet Seb this night and we connected right away. Over passing weeks I was able to tell him things I already knew about "him". I was telling him I had been waiting for a Russian to come into my life since 1988, and it was now 1999.

    I would have to say the time we spent together was the happiest time in my life. I was so happy. I just did not know how in the hell I was going to work it. My American Husband and I were about to build a house, we had the acre. He was home in the USA selling up, to move here permanently, and I was down here in Oz falling in love with a Russian I'd been waiting for, for ten years. I Russian I had already talked to him about.

    Well I was so happy, anyway. So the day he told me he would be home in Russia in a few days. My world just fell all around me, and at this moment I had a dream while awake. It was then that I talked to him of things yet to come to pass.

    I talked about that year around my Birthday, that a building in Moscow would be blown up. , and the same for the folling year. He was not happy about this as it means his city gets celled off, and their freedom of movment is taken away. When I hard on the new the second one in 2000 had come to pass. I broke out in a big sweet. because when I got to 2001, I talked about my 40th B'day.

    I talked about how when I awoke on my 40th B'day the world would of changed. he went Oh no. Please no-more for my Country. I said Oh no. This time it will be the USA. I talked about New York, and twin towers. I see in my head a building just fall. I asked of him what would do that?

    Cut the story short. I wanted him to know all I had told him was true, and I did not want him to go home and forget me. Well he already knew what I told him was true, as I already knew things about him before we meet.

    He has never forgotten me either, as I have shoe boxers full of love letters from Russia. Still affect almost 10 years He remembers me, and I still have his love. He has never had another love in his life since. I've always been the one. I once felt so unloved and now I have an American who has loved me for almost 20 years, and a Russian for almost 10 years.

    I feel so blessed. All I can say: If there is a God. He loves us too!
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    Feb 22, 2009 4:45 PM GMT



    Hey Paradigm, "Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?"

    How's this? CS Lewis wrote that sometimes the best way to reach an adult is through a children's story.

    Prince Caspian was told, by Aslan, that he was the right man to be King because he felt unworthy.

    -Doug
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    Feb 24, 2009 12:21 AM GMT
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    It is possible if you let others invalidate that purpose or if you have judgments and resistance to what you feel your purpose is. Regardless of where you're at and all those around you, just remember that everyone is on their own path and that it's not a hierarchy of importance.

    Being aware of yourself as an immortal being (your spirit or your soul) has nothing to do with religion. Let go of those dogmas and allow yourself to listen to your inner self.
    You'll be the only one that will know for sure if this dream is premonitory or not. Deciphering one's dreams can be very complex. Once in awhile my dreams are exact premonitions of what's to come in the future in the physical world but mostly it's symbolic.

    So....what is this repeated dream? I'm sure I am not the only one who's curious. icon_smile.gif
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    I suppose you're right in everything, but soo much that i've done seems to have been judged and invalidated by others that my own judgements and resistances seem to start to mimic them and I forget myself.
    It's hard for me at least to seperate religion from ones immortal self. Almost everyone in any religion is willing to say how they can't be apart to realize either, and how they complete the other to a perfection that can't be found anywhere else.

    You hit a bull's eye meninlove! So I suppose then it comes down to either I start to truly believe in myself or die in body as i've died in mind.

    I'll write the dreams down, but know I few these as probably the most sacred thing I possess a secret i've not told anyone else. I'll start with the first one that I started having.
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    Feb 24, 2009 12:31 AM GMT
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    ObsceneWish said That is, from a metaphorical perspective, what most paintings of the Annunciation are about, according to some thinkers.


    Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought that the Annuciation was the biblical principle that deities should speak really really clearly.


    Ha ha...love it. I think if this was true there would be a lot less blood shed over the years.
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    Feb 24, 2009 9:20 PM GMT
    Well it's only a dream i've not told because I wasn't sure how others would look at me because of what the dream had in it...I thought I had written the first part last night but I don't see it on the forum icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 24, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    Dreams have a way of coming true. Not because they are premonitions, but because they involve us, and move us emotionally at times, and we end up fulfilling them. Many things I do today I credit to dreams. Part of a dream that is so compelling is that it's received without much censoring, and can evoke things that we'd normally repress. We're braver or meeker or can fly.
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    Feb 24, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidDreams have a way of coming true. Not because they are premonitions, but because they involve us, and move us emotionally at times, and we end up fulfilling them. Many things I do today I credit to dreams. Part of a dream that is so compelling is that it's received without much censoring, and can evoke things that we'd normally repress. We're braver or meeker or can fly.


    Self fulfilling prophecies, if you will.
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    Feb 24, 2009 10:41 PM GMT
    Paradigm saidNow i've had 3 different dreams, each one repeatedly. And they all end up at least to me revealing what I believe my True purpose is going to be while i'm on this World.
    Is it possible to feel unworthy of what one thinks they are meant for?

    Now this becomes a very complicated matter for me mostly because i'm not in any way shape or form religious. And these dreams tend to in some way or form make it where I transcend my mortal limitations.
    It really scares me to death cause i'm a Big believer in dreams do come true.
    Wow, if dreams really do come true, I should start wearing a bullet proof vest.
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    Feb 24, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    Based on what I've heard from people who have been able interpret my dreams, they are rarely literal. I'm told they're a manifestation of our subconscious thoughts.
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    Feb 25, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    If you mean dreams, as in when you are asleep, I think that dreams are just the defrag for the brain. I don't think they really have any significant meaning other than sometimes they involve thoughts that you have been thinking about earlier, as part of the defrag process. I realize that is not very romantic but I think it is pretty accurate.

    If you mean dreams, as in aspirations, I think that we create our own purpose in life. Either that, or we allow others to create that purpose for us, or even worse, go through life just being a consumer (which many people seen to be ok doing icon_confused.gif).

    I like to say that I live what I believe. And I try to find balance in what I do.
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    Feb 25, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    metta8 saidIf you mean dreams, as in when you are asleep, I think that dreams are just the defrag for the brain. I don't think they really have any significant meaning other than sometimes they involve thoughts that you have been thinking about earlier, as part of the defrag process. I realize that is not very romantic but I think it is pretty accurate.

    If you mean dreams, as in aspirations, I think that we create our own purpose in life. Either that, or we allow others to create that purpose for us, or even worse, go through life just being a consumer (which many people seen to be ok doing icon_confused.gif).

    I like to say that I live what I believe. And I try to find balance in what I do.

    Well naturally yes dreams are suppose to be the minds way to keep us lets say occupied during the night sort of like a movie while we sleep. And in fact you are suppose to have something like 3-5 dreams pre night depending on how long you sleep if I recall right. But i've come to realize I rarely dream. I've even talked to psychologist and this one dream expert I know in Las Vegas about me not having dreams. And have even been connected to one of those alpha and beta wave detector machine thingy or whatever it is and does.
    When I do dream though they all happen to be about things that will eventually happen to me. And on the rare occasion might happen. So i've come to realize all my dreams have a futuristic outlook I suppose, and aren't the nonsensical versions the vast majority have.

    Well Maverick75 i'm sure you don't have to start wearing a bullet-proof vest, unless that's what you've come to the conclusion of from actually analyzing your dreams. For I do personally believe dreams have more credence then most people give them.

    Well FrontRowln not everyone is the same thus what might be true for one person isn't for all. Or at least in my case my dreams transcend that line and are very much literal in every sense.