Republicans plan to jack up the price of PrEP because, hey, who needs HIV/AIDS prevention anyway?

  • metta

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    Mar 11, 2017 4:00 AM GMT
    Republicans plan to jack up the price of PrEP because, hey, who needs HIV/AIDS prevention anyway?


    https://www.queerty.com/republicans-plan-jack-price-prep-hey-needs-hivaids-prevention-anyway-20170310
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    Mar 11, 2017 4:34 AM GMT
    Disgusting! And there are (alleged) gay men on this site who actually support US Republicans? Shame on them!

    I seriously doubt they could be gay at all. How could they be in favor of something that will potentially kill thousands of gay men, and others?
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    Mar 12, 2017 12:00 AM GMT
    art_deco saidDisgusting! And there are (alleged) gay men on this site who actually support US Republicans? Shame on them!

    I seriously doubt they could be gay at all. How could they be in favor of something that will potentially kill thousands of gay men, and others?




    Its 2017, and its like their "movement" and our "movement" are both starting all over again icon_eek.gificon_evil.gif

    If you are HIV negative, are you ready to be 'converted'? Do you like VAGINA yet? old article and before he became their VP, but he now has the power to carry out his dastardly republiCON, christian terrorist deed, its worth repeating,

    I was going to make a separate thread on the republiCONs and their anti liberal everything leader Pence and on how they plan to rid the world of us homosexuals, OH wait, that was tried already, there are many of us who believe that HIV/AIDS was created by the sinister plans of the right wing nut jobs (who came to power by 1980) to rid the world of the so called "undesirables", instead their "plan" misfired and infected and killed many of there own anigif_enhanced-7142-1435794806-4.gif




    Pence: “HIV-Positive People Must Be Put Through Conversion Therapy To Make America AIDS-Free Again” August 31st 2016
    http://politicot.com/pence-hiv-positive-people-must-put-conversion-therapy-make-america-aids-free/

    Vice Presidential candidate Mike Pence reportedly took issue with the fact that HIV/AIDS activists were speaking at the 1996 Republican Convention. He doesn’t exactly have the best track record when it comes to HIV/AIDS. As part of his continued war against Planned Parenthood while he was in Congress, his state GOP-led legislature slashed funding to the clinics that often provide people with HIV tests for low or no cost. They also banned needle exchange programs statewide that would have supplied drug users with clean needles so they wouldn’t spread diseases. The result was an outbreak of HIV in Scott County, Indiana in just 65 days.

    Pence has recently been at it again, claiming in an interview with ABC News that America has to be made “AIDS-free again,” apparently taking a page from his running mate Donald Trump’s catchy presidential campaign slogan. Pence argued that the only way to “cleanse” America from HIV and AIDS is to “put HIV-positive people through conversion therapy,” after which they would no longer be homosexuals, given that the disease would, according to the Vice Presidential candidate’s own vast medical experience, be “incapable of surviving” in a straight host.

    “This has long ceased to be a question of if and became a question of when,” Pence told ABC News. “I’m not familiar with the official statistics, I must admit, but I’m told that the numbers of HIV-positive people are on the rise, meaning that it’s only a matter of time before we’re faced with a full-on epidemic. I’m no expert, by all means, but I do have common sense and we ought to start calling things what they really are. Modern medicine has obviously failed to come up with a peaceful solution for AIDS, which means that, unfortunately, it has become the job of the government to take care of this outbreak by any means necessary. And when I say that, I’m referring to the need to protect the healthy population of the country.”

    Pence opined that America “has to act immediately” if it has any plans to stop the “general homosexualization” of American men “led by the liberals and feminists.” “That’s another reason why we must introduce mandatory conversion therapy for all males of all ages who are either hardcore gays or willing to experiment with other men,” Donald Trump’s running mate said. “AIDS has originated among homosexuals and, if I may say so myself, it is almost poetic that it should end with them as well. This is probably going to sound uncommon coming from a politician and a Republican one, at that, but I can’t help but feel all mushy inside when I think about what a glorious country we’ll have once we’re finally gay- and aids-free.”

    “What then?” the interviewer asked Pence. “Well, I guess then it’s on to the lesbians. I hear they’re a bit easier to work with, you know, since they’re women and they’re not as physically strong as the men, I think our doctors will have a much easier time getting them to calm down. Let me tell you, with the men it’s risky; they’ll probably keep tearing up the restraints on the tables. While we’re on the subject, I just realized – we’ll probably end up having to pay a fortune for replacement straps and chains. Let me make a mental note to talk to Donald about that. But anyway, it will definitely be much easier with the girls,” he concluded.




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    Mar 12, 2017 3:18 AM GMT
    Do these Republicans even realize that HIV/AIDS is not a gay disease? The virus (unlike these morons) does not discriminate. By making PrEP less readily accessible, the infection rates will go up, affecting all Americans (straight or otherwise). It's just common sense. Seriously!
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    Mar 12, 2017 4:47 AM GMT
    sweetyork saidDo these Republicans even realize that HIV/AIDS is not a gay disease? The virus (unlike these morons) does not discriminate. By making PrEP less readily accessible, the infection rates will go up, affecting all Americans (straight or otherwise). It's just common sense. Seriously!




    Remember those "death panels" the fear mongering republiCONS sprayed on the public before Obamacare passed? icon_twisted.gif



    Trump And Republicans Expect You To Die, Joe Public

    There is no Republican rhetorical ruse that works around it: Make healthcare unaffordable, and people die.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-and-republicans-expect-you-to-die-joe-public_us_58bd8453e4b0fa65b844b612



    Are you Joe Public? One of America’s more than 94 million permanently unemployed? A doctor, truck driver, or other worker at risk of technological unemployment? Then you, Joe, had best learn a new word: Democide.


    What’s “democide?” It’s the killing of people by a government most often based on their socioeconomic status.


    The Republican healthcare plan, the “AHCA” dubbed “Trumpcare” earlier this week, is more than mean-spirited. It is madness. It is that pure evil that oozes up from the cracks of greed, selfishness, and self-entitlement.


    Is it outside the realm of possibility for that small sect of the wealthiest Social Darwinists, who believe that the rich and powerful are the product of natural selection, and their well-paid Republican think tanks and politicians, to entertain the notion of “thinning the herd?”


    What has their agenda been in Trump’s first 50 days? Keep more poor people from entering the country. Thin the herd. Deport the working poor. Thin the herd.


    You don’t have to have a Paul Ryan Powerpoint presentation to figure out that Trumpcare, which proposes moving millions of people from Medicaid to “tax credits,” isn’t just an accounting sleight of hand to have the government pay for healthcare without really calling it a social program. It is a reverse redistribution of wealth, back to the haves, that can only have one absolute effect.


    Democide.


    If that sounds like the premise for some cheesy Hollywood future Nazi flick, think again. Democide is not uncommon in human history. Simple starvation is usually the class weapon of choice. The Irish famine killed an estimated million people, and Stalin’s starvation of the USSR, most notably Ukraine, sent as many as 49 million people to their deaths.


    There are 94.7 million Americans who are considered not in the labor force, not even seeking a job, a number which jumped again another 664,000 in 2016, CNBC reports.


    Out of 209 million working-age Americans, that’s a staggering 45 percent of the workforce, which may explain why Democratic tone-deafness to their plight pushed ballots for Trump in key rust belt states.


    While the GOP distracts us with border walls, and pits poor and threatened middle class whites against equally struggling minorities and immigrants, two forces are at work, which conservatives assiduously avoid discussing, that have huge ramifications to every American and most of the economies of the planet.


    Automation and global warming.


    Automation affords us all kinds of wonders. Instant global communications, cool games, amazing images, better cars, new medicines. Used properly, it can bring humanity greater prosperity, health, and well being. That is, if, of course, you believe that all human beings have equal worth, and, freed of work by the machines, can be equally supported, along with the rich and powerful, by the technology that takes them out of the working world.


    Republicans, of the Social Darwinist/Randian selfish stripe, though, hold a darker world view of that automation, rooted in their selfish dogma. They aren’t just rethinking your right to healthcare. They’re mulling over how many of us are really all that necessary in this brave new world.


    The assembly line, the warehouse of the 21st century, doesn’t use sweatshop labor. Robots in a warehouse don’t eat, sleep, drink, need breaks, have family problems, or health issues


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  • PennsyGuy

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    Mar 12, 2017 5:11 AM GMT
    metta saidRepublicans plan to jack up the price of PrEP because, hey, who needs HIV/AIDS prevention anyway?


    https://www.queerty.com/republicans-plan-jack-price-prep-hey-needs-hivaids-prevention-anyway-20170310


    Queerty.com? Hardly a trusted news source. I'm surprised that this post is even allowed here, since only "trusted news sources" are allowed, per the forum management.
  • NealJohn

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    Mar 12, 2017 11:56 AM GMT
    Yeah. Because the government should be subsidizing your sex pill. Here's an idea, wear a condom! Or don't have so much promiscuous sex. Your government is not your parent, and it shouldn't be subsidizing your fast and loose sexual behavior.
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    Mar 12, 2017 9:48 PM GMT
    Scare tactics...
    TRUMP will make America great again!
  • musclmed

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    Mar 27, 2017 5:52 AM GMT
    whether Prep is safe or effective needs to be discussed with a patients doctor. Not in a forum , and certainly not by Norm From Cheers.

    The crap about Pence has been debunked.

    https://beinglibertarian.com/mike-pence-never-advocated-conversion-therapy/


    None of the words in that Politico article were uttered in the order that were listed. They have artfully cut and pasted his words together. Because he NEVER sat with an interview with that reporter. Its Propaganda pure and simple. And its shameful and fake news.
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    Mar 30, 2017 9:27 AM GMT
    metta saidRepublicans plan to jack up the price of PrEP because, hey, who needs HIV/AIDS prevention anyway?


    https://www.queerty.com/republicans-plan-jack-price-prep-hey-needs-hivaids-prevention-anyway-20170310


    Or another way to look at it could be removing subsidies. I do think those at the highest risk will have access through programs suited to them. As for an increasing number of Gay Men who see it as an excuse to bareback as often as possible and if pushed would be able to afford it, why should they have subsidised access?
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    Apr 14, 2017 7:06 AM GMT
    If a person taking Truvada becomes infected, there is a greater chance that their HIV will be resistant to Truvada. Currently, Truvada is the backbone of successful AIDS treatment. The creation of Truvada-resistant strains of HIV is incredibly worrying.

    Truvada has serious side effects, including kidney damage and bone loss. These risks may be acceptable when a person has HIV or AIDS, but people taking PrEP are healthy. There will be healthy people who will not get the preventive benefits of PrEP, but who will suffer kidney damage and other harms.

    https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/08/03/hiv-prevention-pill-will-do-more-harm-than-good-hiv-pill-will-give-a-false-sense-of-security