GOP Senators and Trump Distancing Themselves from Trumpcare

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    Mar 15, 2017 1:37 PM GMT
    NYT: But by underscoring the bill’s effect on the ranks of the uninsured, Congress’s official scorekeeper, the C.B.O., made wavering Senate Republicans all the more skittish of the House’s legislation. Any of the changes that senators are seeking would almost certainly alienate conservative House Republicans who already believe the bill is too generous.

    “The C.B.O. score has modified the dynamics,” said Representative Leonard Lance, Republican of New Jersey. “It’s incumbent upon our leadership in the House to make sure that whatever is being discussed has the ability to pass in the Senate,” Mr. Lance said, “and I do not believe that that is currently the case.”

    Mr. Trump was left to strike a balance between siding with House Republicans while also distancing himself from the details, with top aides conceding that the legislation needed modifications before it could pass the full Congress.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/14/us/politics/paul-ryan-health-care.html?
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    Mar 15, 2017 5:32 PM GMT
    No doubt this was all part of Trump's master plan. Give Paul Ryan just enough rope to ALMOST hang himself, then Trump comes riding in with his bag of "The Art of the Deal" negotiating skills to save the day. Wait for it.
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    Mar 15, 2017 5:44 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    No doubt this was all part of Trump's master plan. Give Paul Ryan just enough rope to ALMOST hang himself, then Trump comes riding in with his bag of "The Art of the Deal" negotiating skills to save the day. Wait for it.

    That may be what Trump attempts in the end. But "master plan"? He's not politically smart enough for that.

    He wants to destroy Obamacare (ACA) because that's what he promised to do. But he left the details to a Republican Congress, and so far they've botched it. Trump himself hasn't a clue about health care.

    Nor does his Admin. Bannon wants to eliminate all health care coverage. Let the sick die.
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    Mar 15, 2017 6:37 PM GMT
    art_deco saidHe's not politically smart enough for that.



    Really? Lemme guess, you also didn't think he was "politically smart" enough to beat 16 other very capable GOP candidates AND the Clinton machine?

    art_deco saidHe wants to destroy Obamacare (ACA) because that's what he promised to do. But he left the details to a Republican Congress, and so far they've botched it. Trump himself hasn't a clue about health care.


    WRONG! He wants to repeal Obamacare because it's an EPIC fail that will crash and burn on its own if nothing is done. As for "leaving the details up to Congress", that was the right way it should be done. Let's wait and see what the bill ends up as, not what it is presently.

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    Mar 15, 2017 6:42 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    art_deco saidHe's not politically smart enough for that.



    Really? Lemme guess, you also didn't think he was "politically smart" enough to beat 16 other very capable GOP candidates AND the Clinton machine?

    art_deco saidHe wants to destroy Obamacare (ACA) because that's what he promised to do. But he left the details to a Republican Congress, and so far they've botched it. Trump himself hasn't a clue about health care.


    WRONG! He wants to repeal Obamacare because it's an EPIC fail that will crash and burn on its own if nothing is done. As for "leaving the details up to Congress", that was the right way it should be done. Let's wait and see what the bill ends up as, not what it is presently.

    Well, I wouldn't say Obamacare was an epic fail, sure it needs to address premiums for individuals and couple making 120-250 thousand. These people saw the highest increases...How's your microwave babe?
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    Mar 15, 2017 7:36 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNo doubt this was all part of Trump's master plan. Give Paul Ryan just enough rope to ALMOST hang himself, then Trump comes riding in with his bag of "The Art of the Deal" negotiating skills to save the day. Wait for it.


    According to Paul Ryan, Trumpcare -- as the same suggests -- "is something we wrote with President Trump."
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/03/15/speaker-ryan-on-gop-health-care-plan-takes-out-900b-tax-increases-makes-tax-reform-easier.html
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 16, 2017 4:20 PM GMT
    mybud saidHow's your microwave babe?


    We are having a very "special" relationship --- thank you for asking icon_wink.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 16, 2017 4:27 PM GMT
    nicelyproportioned said

    According to Paul Ryan, Trumpcare -- as the same suggests -- "is something we wrote with President Trump."


    This is true, however, the bill is a long way from getting anywhere near Trump's desk (if it ever gets there at all) and both Ryan and Trump keep reminding us that the bill is being sorted out as it makes it's way through various committees --- and this is how the process should work. Obviously, changes in the bill "as is" are necessary or it's going to go down in flames. Everyone knows this, including Ryan and Trump, so let's see how this all plays out. I'm pretty sure the GOP knows full well that IF no bill at all gets passed it will will be registered as an epic fail for all involved --- including Trump --- so I'm confident it will all get worked out. It will just take some time.