MYOSTATİN said to be better than steroid

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    Feb 18, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    please make this link clickable: blueblackatlantis.squarespace.com

    and read the text about the UBERBOY. and click the link in the text which leads you to querry.nytimes.com and read that text, too. than talk about this
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    Feb 18, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    A magic touch ... and here it is !! :

    http://blueblackatlantis.squarespace.com


    Edit : Hmmmmmmm.... evolution ?? ...
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    Feb 19, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
    Well... there are a lot of theories that are about an evolutionary event for humankind in 2012...
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    Feb 19, 2009 2:07 AM GMT
    Myostatin research holds lots of promise. Lots of cool stuff going on.
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    Feb 19, 2009 6:41 AM GMT
    Another thread had a video about overly muscular cattle, genes that prohibit myostatin are why that bull became so muscular thru breeding.
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    Feb 19, 2009 8:58 AM GMT
    Just a question?

    Why? What is so hard about working out the old fashioned way? Building muscle the old fashioned way? Weights and hard work? No tricks, no chemicals, no nothing? Just old fashioned hard work? Otherwise, just take steriods. They work. They build unearned muscle. So what is the real difference?
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    Feb 19, 2009 5:47 PM GMT
    It is the PRESENCE of myostatin that causes muscular growth inhibition (most folks have normal levels of myostatin). It's the ABSENCE of myostatin that simply allows muscles to grow to their full potential, such as in the "Superbaby". The Johns Hopkins University holds patents in this area of research, and there is oodles of research available online. The development of myostatin inhibitors (that removed the myostatin) allows (as in they've been developed) muscles to reach their full, uninhibited, size. There are two genes that affect myostatin inhibition. Superbaby, and the Blue Belgian breed, LACK those genes that inhibit myostatin and their muscles grow to their full potential.

    Myostatin inhibitors hold great promise with diseases of muscle wasting, and, of course, strength sports, or military applications.

    Be sure to research your postings, folks. So much mis-information floats around here.

    Androgens work in a very different way than myostatin. Myostatin is an inhibitor of growth.

    This news is 11 years old, FYI.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080708155553.htm

    http://www.trulyhuge.com/news/tips62x.htm

    http://www.neuro.jhmi.edu/MDCRC/index.html

    [url]http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/08/14/scientists-use-gene-therapy-to-create-perfect-bodybuilder/
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    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=John+Hopkins+myostatin+inhibitor&btnG=Search
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    Feb 20, 2009 1:31 AM GMT
    He is right though. Myostatin inhibits muscular growth. There have been myostatin inhibitors on the market in pill form, but there is no proof that they work. The research into the relationship between myostatin and muscle growth has not reached its full potential.
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    Feb 20, 2009 1:48 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidThere's Chucky with his condescending style of writing as always.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way when I say that your writing style is supercilious. You're not a part of this community when you think about it. You are simply here to point out that everyone is wrong and that you are right.

    It's really great that you've mastered the strategic fine art of copying and pasting unverifiable links that you google on a whim. It's also interesting how you never give credit for whatever it is you cut and copy and try to push as your own writing with no credence cited to the original author whatsoever.

    You are SO smart. We're all so very impressed.


    Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing on the subject. Your added fluff is much appreciated. You may have found the information repeated in a multitude of sources, including the cited links, but in your laziness, you chose to undermine any credibility and instead foster an environment reeking of ignorance and misinformation which is of no value to the readers.

    The research is really fascinating! They might be able to cure muscular dystrophy if they can get it working.

    http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/19589/
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    Feb 20, 2009 1:55 AM GMT
    Superbaby has been studied to death and one of the science channels did a program on him that I watched a while back.

    Both his mother, and father, are missing one myostatin inhibition gene, and the kid ended up with both missing. He's been around for quite a while, and is a huge, strong, kid. Done a few movies, and such.

    To the haters: I certainly would view John Hopkins University as creditable. I would also regard Science Daily as creditable. I would regard the University of Pennsylvania as creditable, too. The Medical College of Georgia is included in those citations as well.

    I take time to research the links because I know how lazy many folks are. If you take time to read the pages linked to, they have links to the citations of the researchers.

    A couple of the links are related to the popular culture of bodybuilding, and given the discussion topic, are germane as well.

    It appears to have nothing to add germane to the conversation, and lack any solid basis for your negative remarks.

    Perhaps you should channel your energy in a more positive direction, and steer away from personal attacks.

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2004/06/24/512617.html

    From The New England Journal of Medicine, 7 months old "Superbaby"

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    Feb 20, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidThere's Chucky with his condescending style of writing as always.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way when I say that your writing style is supercilious. You're not a part of this community when you think about it. You are simply here to point out that everyone is wrong and that you are right.

    It's really great that you've mastered the strategic fine art of copying and pasting unverifiable links that you google on a whim. It's also interesting how you never give credit for whatever it is you cut and copy and try to push as your own writing with no credence cited to the original author whatsoever.

    You are SO smart. We're all so very impressed.


    You have just pointed out what all of RJ knows- THE TRUTH. Now as you can see you will suffer the wrath of (the original google cut and paste twins) flex and his roomate/dad/wife the chuckster.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Again any steriod or any precurser to it- is his best friend. He will defend/justify them like any drug user would!icon_idea.gif

    As for a haters= anyone who doesn't agree with you is labeled as such. You fail to see that no one is jealous!! It is just astounding that you can't really see youself for what you are as we ALL do! A low self esteem waanbe bodybuilder who's about as brilliant as a small appliance bulb. It is obvious to us all by the sum of your posts.
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    Feb 20, 2009 3:24 AM GMT
    You got that right Az!! He's a lineman. You haven't heard his job post. "when a lineman sees what a lineman sees...It must be right" lol icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:29 AM GMT
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:38 AM GMT
    I think you guys are to hard on chucky...he can be rough sometimes but from everything I have studied on subjects like steroids and myostatin he is usually 100% right.

    So what if he puts links up to information....apparently he knew where to look for the info better than the original poster.

    There is nothing wrong with studying our bodies and reactions it has to different things that are available to us to better ourselves.

    I would rather listen to someone that obviously has done it and is in the field and used some of these things v.s. a scrawney know it all with his head in a blind placebo study.

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    Feb 20, 2009 5:58 AM GMT
    So, all things being equal... does this mean the skinny and lean types have something to possibly look forward, too. Or put another way, does metabolism, genetics and myostatin have any relation...
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    Feb 20, 2009 6:15 AM GMT
    redbull said
    I would rather listen to someone that obviously has done it and is in the field and used some of these things v.s. a scrawney know it all with his head in a blind placebo study.



    OK, but muchmorethanmuscle hardly counts as a "scrawny know it all."

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    Feb 20, 2009 6:30 AM GMT
    On topic:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bookshelf/br.fcgi?book=gene∂=mstn

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070530/strong_toddler_070530/20070530

    In the absence of myostatin, roughly double the mass is resultant.

    As a result of the muscle mass you would have a higher metabolism, but the lack, or presence, of myostatin is not a stimulant, per say.

    If a person lacks one, or both, myostatin inhib genes, he will have increased skeletal muscle.

    John Hopkins U has stated that they haven't yet observed any negative effective from myostatin inhibition / lack of myostatin.

    Observers have reported almost no fat in those who lack myostatin.

    Off topic / personal attacks:
    Logan (flex89) is a type 1 diabetic that I help out. We are good friends, and have similar interests. Because Logan has a chronic illness, many folks his age, and indeed some here, do not have the depth of character, not the patience, to understand the challenges he faces minute to minute, hour to hour, and day to day. Things that are taken for granted by many are a major pain in the neck for Logan. Things like going to a movie, getting through a leg workout, or going on a bus ride.

    It's most unfortunate that some folks, even though I've stated about things that really aren't the business of someone half a world away that doesn't contribute value on a particular topic, continues to make their attacks. At the end of the day, though, we do understand the source, and realize it is whatever it is, and take it with a grain of salt.

    The ongoing personal attacks speak to the lowest element of these discussions, and while I know it's best not to acknowledge those sorts of people, for the sake of the other viewers, I'd like folks to know that Logan is a great guy, who face lots of challenges, and who is a good friend of mine. If someone half a world away wants to be icky, well, The Internet shields them and they're just icky.

    While I'm frank, I spent 11 years in commercial broadcasting, and know pretty much what I'm going to say, what my basis it, and why my view is what it is. I seldom attack folks at a personal level, although if they're stupid, lazy, high-drama, I will almost certainly make them see that, as should be the case.

    Thanks for making us feel special.

    We'll continue to do our best to lead by example, and will not lower ourselves to some of the stuff here.
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    Feb 20, 2009 7:02 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    theatrengym said
    redbull said
    I would rather listen to someone that obviously has done it and is in the field and used some of these things v.s. a scrawney know it all with his head in a blind placebo study.



    OK, but muchmorethanmuscle hardly counts as a "scrawny know it all."




    There's a dignified way to assert yourself and your claims to knowing accurate information. Chucky just isn't in touch with that part of himself yet.


    i wasnt speaking of muchmorethanmuscle, I was just saying in general and other posts that I have read that chucky has responded to. Had nothing to do with you man...

    I agree he could use a little more tack when explaining things sometimes, but he is usually right.
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    Feb 20, 2009 7:04 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    chuckystud said
    Off topic / personal attacks:
    Logan (flex89) is a type 1 diabetic that I help out. We are good friends, and have similar interests. Because Logan has a chronic illness, many folks his age, and indeed some here, do not have the depth of character, not the patience, to understand the challenges he faces minute to minute, hour to hour, and day to day. Things that are taken for granted by many are a major pain in the neck for Logan. Things like going to a movie, getting through a leg workout, or going on a bus ride.



    Funny...you talk of a chronic illness in Logan's case and you sound all endearing. Yet when it comes to people with HIV you are very hostile and make implications such as, "you got what you asked for" or a multitude of scathing remarks.

    I find your gross inconsistencies 'interesting' to say the least.


    yea i dont agree with the hiv attitude with chucky at all, im with you on that one.
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    Feb 20, 2009 7:10 AM GMT
    Off topic, for those who don't seem to know:
    1. Type 1 diabetes is an auto-immune disease that kills the beta cells that make insulin. It is caused by a genetic defect. It''s not a contagious disease. It is NOT caused by bad behavior, nor an "accident."
    2. HIV/AIDS is a contagious disease that is preventable in nearly every instance through various behavior modifications.

    To compare HIV to Type 1 diabetes is an error. One is preventable, and the other isn't.

    Is appears that some aren't in the know regarding the differences.
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    Feb 20, 2009 7:13 AM GMT
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    Feb 20, 2009 12:11 PM GMT
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    Feb 20, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
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    Feb 20, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
    Realjock Chris will eventually ask Chuck to leave. He breaks the majority of the forum rules on RJ, and he has picked on guys like mikephil and many many others. While his google cut and paste info can be correct at times he doesn't see himself for the little insecure, misrable man he is in these forums.

    He has tried desperately to become friends with Chris of RJ to shield himself from exile from RJ, but his time is running out. TRUTH!

    Muchmore he will lash out at you because you are a tall confident muscular guy who has no problem getting noticed when you enter a room/gym anywhere you go-that is pure jealously on his part, and he will bend Chris's ear about this I'm sure but we all have so many many examples of his truely disorderly behavior in here! Not to worry.icon_idea.gif You're not going anywhere. I also have a bucket-load of RJ e-mails thanking me for pointing out his cyber bullying, and blatent disreguard for all the things that make RJ a positive productive site. Do NOT leave the forums-just ignore him!icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 20, 2009 5:02 PM GMT
    noone should be exiled. come oooooon icon_sad.gif mercy icon_neutral.gif